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2015 NHL Draft Rankings: War Room March Madness Edition - Top 120

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03-20-2015, 12:04 PM
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2015 NHL Draft Rankings: War Room March Madness Edition - Top 120

"The 2015 NHL Draft Rankings War Room: This March Madness edition brings you the Top 120 ranked prospects as compiled by THW’s Eastern Canada based hockey bird dog, Eldon MacDonald."

Intro article - March Madness: Risers and Fallers

The ultimate draft spreadsheet: link to Top 120 THW War Room Rankings

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Nice risers and fallers list guys.

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Yakov Trenin falling to 111? After being something like 1.8 ppg over last month in QMJHL? Any reason for that?

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Bracco falling because he hasn't produced?

Kid is already top 5 ALL TIME in points at NTDP (ahead of Jack Eichel for those keeping score at home)

How much more do you want him to produce?


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Nice, thanks for posting this.

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Provorov at 12? Zacha, a forward, producing worse than him in the top 10? Crap list.

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Provorov at 12? Zacha, a forward, producing worse than him in the top 10? Crap list.
Every time you post, it's about points.

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16th- Carlo, Brandon

46-Ahl, Filip

47-Pilon, Ryan

50-Senyshyn, Zachary

If that's how the Flames 1st-2nd round draft went down I would be pretty happy. Get to have fun with the names Ahl and Pilon, too.

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Provorov at 12? Zacha, a forward, producing worse than him in the top 10? Crap list.
Not always about points

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Bracco falling because he hasn't produced?

Kid is already top 5 ALL TIME in points at NTDP (ahead of Jack Eichel for those keeping score at home)

How much more do you want him to produce?
Did you read it?

His production is fading in the 2nd half.

Seasons are long. Players rise and fall.

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Did you read it?

His production is fading in the 2nd half.

Seasons are long. Players rise and fall.
You are correct

Season is long but how can you fault a kid who has put up the kind of numbers he has?

In two years he has produced more than Milano, Eichel, Larkin, and Matthews

You take a twenty game sample size, where he was still putting up close to a point a game, and say the kid should fall twenty spots and may fall more?

C'mon. And then he knocks his height to boot?

Whoever gets this kid gets a better Gaudreau.

Bank on it.

Edit: And he has 7 pts in his last 4 games


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Not always about points
It is when it is about McDavid

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Bracco falling because he hasn't produced?

Kid is already top 5 ALL TIME in points at NTDP (ahead of Jack Eichel for those keeping score at home)

How much more do you want him to produce?
Jeremy Bracco – Yes, Jeremy Bracco was one of my favourites – I had him as high as the mid-teens. From the US Top Prospects game on to about mid-season he was lights out good. But since then, the results on the scoreboard and on the ice have not been near as kind to Jeremy Bracco. What happened, I do not know. Was it a minor injury or an illness e.g. mono? What I strongly suspect is that Jeremy’s accomplishments since about mid-season will not result in a first round selection for him. In fact, the 45 where I had him in the March rankings is doubtful in the absence of a turnaround or a reasonable explanation (injury/illness) accounting for his ordinary play. For comparison, a player with the same dimensions as Jeremy Bracco (5’9, 172) who had 120 points in his draft year in the WHL went 43rd in the 2013 draft. His name – Nicolas Petan – The Winnipeg Jets prospect.

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Provorov at 12? Zacha, a forward, producing worse than him in the top 10? Crap list.
Pavel Zacha – OK, you caught me, I too was wavering on Pavel Zacha. Nice skills but somewhat mediocre results. However, I recently completed my profile on Pavel Zacha. It is in for editing and should be released in the next couple of weeks. As part of the background for the article, I reviewed lots of highlights, a few old games and as much reading material as I could find. The conclusion I came to was that his skills were so high end and NHL ready (size, shot, hits, skating) and his season was so disheveled through injuries, suspensions and a trip to the World Juniors that I was not surprised that his results to date have not matched his skills. I believe that more than a few NHL teams will draw the same conclusion as I have and that Pavel will be off the board in the top 10. As Kenny Rogers sings, you have to know when to hold em and when to fold em. So with with Pavel Zacha it is WAVER NO MORE and a definite HOLD.

Studs and Duds – In my first job out of university, I was working at a client in Agincourt, ON – CFTO-TV, CTV’s Toronto station. As part of getting up to their Canadian quota, CFTO was producing a variety show with this seemingly washed up US performer. At lunch hour, we would catch a bit of the taping and make a few derogatory remarks to ourselves about this seemingly washed up US performer. This was shortly before this seemingly washed up US performer became a world famous country singer that you know as Kenny Rogers.

Stud – Kenny Rogers

Dud - E-Mac and his buddies

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Jeremy Bracco – Yes, Jeremy Bracco was one of my favourites – I had him as high as the mid-teens. From the US Top Prospects game on to about mid-season he was lights out good. But since then, the results on the scoreboard and on the ice have not been near as kind to Jeremy Bracco. What happened, I do not know. Was it a minor injury or an illness e.g. mono? What I strongly suspect is that Jeremy’s accomplishments since about mid-season will not result in a first round selection for him. In fact, the 45 where I had him in the March rankings is doubtful in the absence of a turnaround or a reasonable explanation (injury/illness) accounting for his ordinary play. For comparison, a player with the same dimensions as Jeremy Bracco (5’9, 172) who had 120 points in his draft year in the WHL went 43rd in the 2013 draft. His name – Nicolas Petan – The Winnipeg Jets prospect.
So let me get this straight, Bracco has played 120+ games and had outstanding production and you are basing you analysis on a twenty game stretch?

Makes perfect sense - sarcasm implied.

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Is it just me or is Conor Garland not on the list at all?

Id take a flyer on him with a 3rd rounder, possibly a 2nd rounder if I had 2 of them.

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So let me get this straight, Bracco has played 120+ games and had outstanding production and you are basing you analysis on a twenty game stretch?

Makes perfect sense - sarcasm implied.
Well, yes.

Prospects having a decline in production, without an outside factor puts the development track in question.

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Not always about points
Yea, but Provorov is also a good skater with high hockey IQ, plays in all situations, and isnt a small guy. Not really any holes to his game, and excels in pretty much all areas of the game.

Zacha looks like more of a project IMO, and doesnt even have better upside. It's not always about size

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Yea, but Provorov is also a good skater with high hockey IQ, plays in all situations, and isnt a small guy. Not really any holes to his game, and excels in pretty much all areas of the game.

Zacha looks like more of a project IMO, and doesnt even have better upside. It's not always about size
Oh I agree with you completely that Provorov should be higher then Zacha. I just didn't like your reasoning

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Oh I agree with you completely that Provorov should be higher then Zacha. I just didn't like your reasoning
That (Provorov outscoring Zacha) wasnt my reasoning, that was another poster. I was just supporting his view that Provorov>Zacha.

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Well, yes.

Prospects having a decline in production, without an outside factor puts the development track in question.
I would agree with you if the sample size was smaller.


So you are trying to tell me Bracco played 100 games as a first rounder and the all of the sudden turned in to a third rounder?

What, did he wake up one morning and forget how to play?

Have you ever heard of regression to the mean?

My guess is Bracco is closer to his 100 game performance than to his 20 game performance.

In fact, he has 7 points in last 4 games.

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Crazy when Bracco scores at rate of one point per game on make shift lines he is playing bad. When anyone else score one point per game their a hero. Kid is still making the same plays he has all year just not being put in the net like they were at being of year. Passed both Molina and Eichel is in all time scoring for the ntdp since playing in the ushl and seems to get no credit for that accomplishment. Even the greatest players need to be with others that can compliment them. I have seen every game he has played this year and whenever on the ice seems as if his line has a scoring opportunity.

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