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[TOR/ANA] Beauchemin Traded to Anaheim for Lupul, Jake Gardiner, and a 2013 4th

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02-09-2011, 11:44 AM
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Shouldn't have given up Gardiner.

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wow.

Great move for Leafs

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thank you brian burkkee, i have a feeling this will be a good trade deadline for toronto

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great for the ducks to get out from under lupul's contract and move that money to defense, where it's needed more.

For the leafs, lupul adds some offense, but the real return is gardiner. Gardiner is a good piece to have if kaberle leaves via trade or FA.

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Are Komisarek and Kaberle next in line.... ?
Please let it be so.

But really, how many defensemen can Burke trade away? I was hoping he wouldn't deal Beauch. The return is pretty good though.

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This is a pretty bad trade by Brian Burke... problably worse than the Phaneuf trade.

Gardiner is a real nice prospect, but Lupul is not the answer to our problems. The only way to salvage this one is if Lupul gets flipped elsewhere for a centre or bigger winger.
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Agreed. But heck, I'm impressed Burke could swing a trade with Beauchemin to land Gardiner. Impressive.
yah man. we'll have to eat lupul's contract but the leafs rebuild continues. good job by burke

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Are Komisarek and Kaberle next in line.... ?
Apparently Gus is up for trade today

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As many in this thread have already pointed out, this is a pretty bad deal for the Ducks. However, there is one point I thought of that nobody has discussed. It may not matter to the Ducks and their fans, though.

The Ducks have a great young forward core with Getzlaf, Perry, and Ryan but after that there isn't much to speak of. Lupul, even though he's not THAT good, would have been a good guy to slot into the top 6 once Selanne/Koivu retire. Unless some of their prospects can make the jump to the NHL in the next few years and make an impact right away, the Ducks' offense could really dry up.

Of course, the Ducks might also trade for a top 6 forward so like I said, this may be a non-issue.

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Honestly gardiner straight up would have been a good deal.

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No, because Beauchemin isn't a rental.
He is a 1 year rental, a steep price to pay for a prospect

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Solid deal I think.

Although am a bit concerned as Beauch had really settled Phanuef down as his partner. Interesting to see how Dion performs now.

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Definitely the best trade Burke's pulled off for the Leafs in my opinion. If Lupul can stay healthy, he's a solid top-six guy who can put up 40-50 points.

And Jake Gardiner is a solid prospect. It raises one question; I thought I remember hearing last year he was considering leaving University of Wisconsin either last year (which he obviously didn't) or this year. Now that he's been dealt, any Leafs fans wonder if he'll make the sign and void the last year of University next year?

I hope Beauchemin can be the same defenseman he was while he was with Anaheim. I liked him then, wasn't too fond of his play with the Leafs.

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Hey Leaf fans, Jake has 30 points in 30 games this season in university as a defenseman. Good trade on Burke, but shame on you Leaf fans to not dig for the stats .

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Solid deal by Burke, but that's only for snagging Gardiner.

Lupul is a waste.
On some teams he might be a waste but on the Leafs he's sure to replace Joey Crabb.

I also wouldn't expect much this year with such a long layoff and bad back injury. Maybe he'll pick it up next year.

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Classic HF reaction... whoever gets the best prospect wins the deal...

But it's a good trade for both sides. Ducks get a guy back who has won it with them before, and while they give up a good prospect Lupul with his injury has been on the path to spare part so he gets a chance to ignite his offense again with the Leafs.

Not to mention, since Beauchemin has time left on his contract, the Ducks get a long term asset, whereas Gardiner could be deemed expendable especially with Fowler and Sbisa looking like future studs for them.

Of course, the Leafs lose a minute munching defenseman...
Who has already walked away from this team via free agency and will probably do again for a big payday. Not to mention he only looked good when playing Niedermayer.

And on top of that we gave away one of our best prospects.

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There are a few teams in the NHL who would consider Gardiner their top D-man prospect if they owned his rights. Have you seen him play this season? His skating is great, his play in his own zone has improved in leaps and bounds, and he is putting up PPG. He is definitely better than a middle of the road prospect.
There is a big difference between the NCAA and professional hockey. Especially for undersized defencemen. I think Gardiner is far from a sure thing at this point.

Given what the market will be for defencemen, especially ones that can put up big minutes, this is a fair trade IMO. The fact the Ducks actually managed to shed a bit of cap space in this transaction is also huge.

Lupul's contract is by far the riskiest one in this deal.

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yah man. we'll have to eat lupul's contract but the leafs rebuild continues. good job by burke
Lupul is, if he can stay healthy, the type of player this team needs. That's a big if though.
This is a good trade for the Leafs, with the potential to be a landslide win.

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Leafs won this trade hands down.

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I just don't see why Burke would take on 4.25 for the this year and the next. Seems a bit hefty for maybe 20 goal scorer

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Well it's a conditional pick I think and it's in 2013, but good deal for Beauch though. I heard that gardiner was stalling in his development though...[/QUOTE]

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I might be wrong, but I remember heaing a top Ducks prospect was stalling. And I'm not talking about Logan MacMillan. Either I heard Gardiner or Holland or maybe someone else.

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Honestly gardiner straight up would have been a good deal.
Yeah, but the Ducks would never do that, they wanted out of Lupul's contract obviously.

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Good deal, but I'm surprised he moved Beauchemin so soon.

I figured the price would be even higher at the deadline.
Higher price? Gardner is a 1st round pick playing well - 30 points in 30 games.

What was he going to get?

And he got another 4th round pick and Lupul - while not a world beater anymore - will step in and replace Joey Crabb in the lineup.

This is a great deal by the Leafs.

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When Lupul has injury problems and a 4.25 long term contract, he isn't considered equivalent to a first rounder. It doesn't work that way.
Even if you take Lupul out of the equation, Leafs still got a 1st rounder in return for Beauch. Most of the teams fans would have had fits if they were proposed Beuach for their 1st.

I'm just glad we didn't get ripped off in a deal. But it is to show that Leafs players do have value around the league. The board doesn't know everything. Beauchemin is a solid defenseman and will help Anaheim.

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