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View Poll Results: Should we enter the playoffs with Wheeler and Ryder as our third line wingers?
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02-12-2011, 03:16 PM
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Ryder and Wheeler

How do you feel about going into the playoffs with Ryder and Wheeler as the wingers on our third line?



1. They are great. If the center is playing well its one of the best second lines in the league like Wheeler-Krejci-Ryder in 2008/2009



2. Terrible. Do whatever you can to move the contracts. Caron and another prospect are better anyways.

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3. Not great, not terrible.

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02-12-2011, 03:19 PM
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I thought it would be more interesting without a third option and I wasnt sure how I wanted to word it. Sorry a mod can edit if they feel its necessary.

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ya not a fan of either, but their not aweful... If we Get an upgrade? Toss'm

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02-12-2011, 03:22 PM
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I voted no btw. I didnt want to influence the poll with the post however.

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This is like being asked to describe how great the flavor of water is...

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02-12-2011, 03:23 PM
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I feel more confident about Ryder than Wheeler.

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02-12-2011, 03:23 PM
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Id like to keep ryder for the playoffs; i realy like him when he skates ans he seems to be motivated in the playoffs.

I say keep him

I dont mind trading wheeler to upgrade the D or the 3rd line center spot

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02-12-2011, 03:29 PM
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I feel more confident about Ryder than Wheeler.
Opposite for me. I haven't noticed Ryder on the ice in the past few weeks until the Habs game. He's been streaky his whole career, it's not just a fluke.

Wheeler has proven that he can be good without putting up eye popping numbers. He's brought it night in and out and has become a real good defensive player. Yes, he still ****'s up every once in a while, but it's drastically improven over the last year. For the right price I wouldn't mind seeing him back next year either.

Yes, I wouldn't mind seeing either in the playoffs.

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02-12-2011, 03:35 PM
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I'd keep both unless you can find an upgrade for similar money. I'm obviously a huge Ryder fan and his game in the playoffs is usually very fun to watch.

If we can move Ryder, then get someone at a similar salary, say Booth or Weiss, then I'd be all over it.

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02-12-2011, 03:38 PM
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Seguin-Hamill-Sauve would be my third line.

Seguin and Sauve may not be ready though and I could be wrong and for this year Ryder and Wheeler are better options but personally I thinkj that would be a SICK line to put out in the playoffs those two would fly on the wings.

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Ryder had some clutch goals in the playoffs last year.

My vote would be to keep him around but trade that bum wheeler.

IMO out best lineup going into the playoffs would be:

Marchand-Bergeron-Recchi
Lucic-Krejci-Horton
_____-Seguin-Ryder
Paille-Campbell-Caron
Thornton

I love Thornton's game, but I think we'd be better suited with Caron and Paille both in the lineup as they can play the PK better.

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I'd keep both unless you can find an upgrade for similar money. I'm obviously a huge Ryder fan and his game in the playoffs is usually very fun to watch.

If we can move Ryder, then get someone at a similar salary, say Booth or Weiss, then I'd be all over it.
Ryder's value right in the playoffs would be higher if there werent so many wingers getting PP time over him. And on a third line he might not earn PP time thus making him less valueable.

For the team to have a chance of gettin full value hed need to be stepping up a line and right now that will only happen with an injury.

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This is like being asked to describe how great the flavor of water is...


I wouldn't expect much out of them unless they pick up a better center.

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02-12-2011, 03:52 PM
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Ryder over the course of 2 playoff seasons scored nine goals whereas Wheeler over the past 2 has scored only one goal in 21 games!!

But, as Montiverdi46 pointed out, Wheeler is doin things without the puck unlike seasons before but I say the same for Ryder. When he's not scoring, he has plenty of chances and it seems to me his passing game is better.

So yeah, I'd like to hangon to both for the postseason..Now if a trade proposal shuld pop up thats too good to decline on, well by all means, go for it!!

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02-12-2011, 04:54 PM
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I think the Bruins have some good options and moving a player like Ryder frees up some cap space. With Ryder, Stuart and Savards LTIR you have about 9.6 million is space.
So you go with:


Lucic-Krejci-Horton
Marchand-Bergeron-Recchi
Wheeler- Weiss -Seguin
Paille-Campbell-Caron
Thornton

Chara- Seabrook or E.J. or Kaberle
Seidenberg- Boychuk
Ference- McQuaid
Kampfer

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Not bad not good. I wouldn't be opposed to trading them for a bigger piece, but as third line wingers go they're not bad.

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02-12-2011, 05:57 PM
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The game Ryder had against Montreal showed how talented he is; and Wheeler had a nice stretch at center where he played very well- he's been more physical this year and this hit last night might have been the best since he came up here- I know its on Hamill but its a start and shows he can do it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoG7U...=youtube_gdata

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I would like to see them re-sign Ryder for shorter money and years

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02-12-2011, 06:09 PM
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Wheeler will be important in the playoffs even if he doesn't score a ton.

As thing stand I don't think CJ is going to put Seguin in as our third line center in the playoffs, and I would agree with that decision as I feel it would be premature and irresponsible to throw the kid out there unless he has a great Game 1 or something. Unless they make a move, that leaves the job likely to Wheeler.

Furthermore, even if Wheeler isn't our third line center himself going into the playoffs, he makes valuable attrition insurance, as he's proven he can play center adequately, meaning we can replace the loss of one of our top 2 guys. Not that it won't hurt, but at least we're not replacing Krejci with Whitfield like we did last year.

As for Ryder, scoring depth has a domino effect. He's on pace for 20-25 and he creates a scoring threat on the third line that people still need to defend against, allowing the top 2 lines both more rest and better defensive matchups. Unless you can upgrade there, I'd leave him be.

Honestly by and large I consider our forward situation not great, but not our biggest problem, and would prefer to see the team devote its resources to upgrading our power play ability among the defensive corps.

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I think the Bruins have some good options and moving a player like Ryder frees up some cap space. With Ryder, Stuart and Savards LTIR you have about 9.6 million is space.
So you go with:


Lucic-Krejci-Horton
Marchand-Bergeron-Recchi
Wheeler- Weiss -Seguin
Paille-Campbell-Caron
Thornton

Chara- Seabrook or E.J. or Kaberle
Seidenberg- Boychuk
Ference- McQuaid
Kampfer
So who gets traded?

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02-12-2011, 08:52 PM
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So who gets traded?
Ryder and Stuart.

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02-12-2011, 09:15 PM
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Ryder, Stuart need to be moved as well as some of our prospects with drafts picks.

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I'm fine with Ryder...He's a great 3rd line RW option IMO...

I'd deal Wheeler for a Clarkson or Umberger.

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You could do a lot worse than Wheeler and Ryder as your 3rd line wingers.

Center is the primary issue on that line right now.

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