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02-13-2011, 12:47 PM
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Oh ****, E4???
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02-13-2011, 12:51 PM
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I know what e4 means from that recent video... but I already knew it meant it was total bull****. Still waiting on the Ovechkin trade.

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i dont like eklund at all but E4 thought i would post it.
if you dont like eklund, stop giving him money.

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if you dont like eklund, stop giving him money.
how am i giving him money?

clicking on his site does not send money to him.

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02-13-2011, 01:28 PM
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how am i giving him money?

clicking on his site does not send money to him.
You're giving him hits, the more hits he gets the more money he makes from ads (I'm assuming he has ads on his site, I have never been there to say for certain, don't want to give him hits lol.)

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02-13-2011, 01:32 PM
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While I think the Canucks could use a defensive guy like Phillips, it makes little sense for the Canucks to surrender assets to get Phillips when all their D is scheduled to be back for the playoffs and there is little chance of dropping far. Tanev, Rome and Alberts should be able to get us by for a few weeks. Phillips has had a down year and would be a pure rental, doesn't make a lot of sense as by the time the playoffs roll around the depth chart would be something like:

Edler
Bieksa
Hamhuis
Salo
Ehrhoff
Ballard
Phillips
Tanev/Alberts/Rome

Bit of overkill, no?

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02-13-2011, 01:34 PM
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LOL no.

Our defense are all scheduled to be back for the playoffs. Maybe not Hamhuis, but even then, our depth defensemen have stepped up and played very well for the past few games.
if Hamhuis is already hanging out with the team, doing interviews and reporters are all saying the same thing - there is no signs of a concussion and he looks fine, showing no signs of dizziness, no bandage around his head, etc,... then you gotta think that he's going to be back within the next couple months at least.

We heard much different things when Mitchell went down to a concussion... it sounds to me (being no concussion expert at all) that Hamhuis' situation is a lot more like what Ballard went through earlier, then expecting him to be out into the playoffs.

there's still 9-10 weeks before the playoffs... I can't see a guy who's expected to be out for more than 2 months hanging out with the team a few days after the hit, doing interviews.

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02-13-2011, 01:35 PM
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While I think the Canucks could use a defensive guy like Phillips, it makes little sense for the Canucks to surrender assets to get Phillips when all their D is scheduled to be back for the playoffs and there is little chance of dropping far. Tanev, Rome and Alberts should be able to get us by for a few weeks. Phillips has had a down year and would be a pure rental, doesn't make a lot of sense as by the time the playoffs roll around the depth chart would be something like:

Edler
Bieksa
Hamhuis
Salo
Ehrhoff
Ballard
Phillips
Tanev/Alberts/Rome

Bit of overkill, no?
This... and if we're adding anything to the Canucks I hope it's a big forward/center with decent hands that hits and can play a checking line role.

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02-13-2011, 01:47 PM
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Canucks entering Phillips sweeps with major offer (e4)


why Vancouver tho
2 injuries to there D is why

but this is just eklund seeing that and taking a guess

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02-13-2011, 01:52 PM
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2 injuries to there D is why

but this is just eklund seeing that and taking a guess
The Canucks have 3 injuries to their defense... (technically 4, with Sweatt having a broken foot, but he's 10th on the depth chart).

Edler is expected back in late March/early April.

Ballard is expected back in 2-3 weeks

and Hamhuis just had a concussion 2 games ago, but has been with the team and according to reports from interviews is already looking fine... but given the past history with concussions on the Canucks (particularly Mitchell) the team will take all the time they need to feel comfortable.

I can't see any of them not expected back by the playoffs... and with Salo now back, their defense come playoff time looks like:

Edler-Ehrhoff
Hamhuis-Bieksa
Ballard-Salo
Alberts
Rome
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Tanev
Sweatt


I have no problem at all seeing Alberts in the top-6 either... he's been very good all season long and is the most physical Canuck defender overall. He's no weakness at all on the bottom pairing, and yet with a healthy defense, he doesn't crack the top-6.

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02-13-2011, 02:03 PM
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depending on what the price for phillips is, and whether or not we can fit him under the cap

i mean, it would be a luxury to have him as a 7th d, even tho our d will be back for the playoffs, whats to say salo wont be pulling his glutious maximus again taking a shot, or injure himself during another team photo shoot?

of course if the price is 1st rd pick + schroeder or something, walk away.....

but if its shirokov + 2nd, i wouldnt mind

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02-13-2011, 02:07 PM
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Phillips would be nice, but not at the price most Ottawa fans want for him.
Pure rentals don't have any real value to them unless you're getting a Richards or what I thought Semin was going to be.
Rentals of Phillips caliber are worth usually a 2nd maybe a middling prospect.
No Cody Hodgson's or Jordan Schreoders imho.

If Ottawa would agree along the lines of Sergei Shirokov and a 3rd. Than maybe I'd be more open. But the likelihood of that is slim to none. I won't give up on K-Con (even tho your deep in defense prospects already) because he is the only one with NHL level Point production from the back end.

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02-13-2011, 02:10 PM
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Didnt gillis JUST say they weremt gonna add any more d?
Yeah, but it's an E4. I'd trust Eklund over Gillis on this one.

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Phillips would be nice, but not at the price most Ottawa fans want for him.
Pure rentals don't have any real value to them unless you're getting a Richards or what I thought Semin was going to be.
Rentals of Phillips caliber are worth usually a 2nd maybe a middling prospect.
No Cody Hodgson's or Jordan Schreoders imho.

If Ottawa would agree along the lines of Sergei Shirokov and a 3rd. Than maybe I'd be more open. But the likelihood of that is slim to none. I won't give up on K-Con (even tho your deep in defense prospects already) because he is the only one with NHL level Point production from the back end.
I think your valuation of Phillips is bang on.

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Phillips would be nice, but not at the price most Ottawa fans want for him.
Pure rentals don't have any real value to them unless you're getting a Richards or what I thought Semin was going to be.
Rentals of Phillips caliber are worth usually a 2nd maybe a middling prospect.
No Cody Hodgson's or Jordan Schreoders imho.

If Ottawa would agree along the lines of Sergei Shirokov and a 3rd. Than maybe I'd be more open. But the likelihood of that is slim to none. I won't give up on K-Con (even tho your deep in defense prospects already) because he is the only one with NHL level Point production from the back end.
i think we're looking for a 2nd and a middling prospect. Dont think that's too unrealistic.

57-61 overall plus a prospect seems like fair value to me.

or maybe just a better prospect like rodin.

vancouver's prospect pool doesnt make for good trading partners as shirokov is a bad fit and other than rodin your other top guys are all d. (unless you'd actually move shroeder for phillips).

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02-13-2011, 02:37 PM
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If the Canucks make a move it will likely be for a 2nd/3rd line LW with size and decent hands or a 4th line centre like Reasoner.

There is probably teams with bigger interest in Phillips than the Canucks at this point. I can easily see him going to San Jose for a 2nd+5th and then being extended at an inflated salary.

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take it easy people. he didn't say e4 that a trade happens. It is an e4 that vancouver is "entering sweepstakes". he's adding another level of rumor. not a trade rumor, but a conversation rumor. its an e4 that they talk. the trade occurring would still be like an e(negative 4).

example, Doug wilson to call his mom with lunch offer (e4). that's not saying eating is an e4 on the eklometer, calling is the e4.

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02-13-2011, 03:11 PM
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Canucks needs at the deadline are probably a center for the fourth line and/or another big winger..

Defense I'm not so sure on..

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LOL no.

Our defense are all scheduled to be back for the playoffs. Maybe not Hamhuis, but even then, our depth defensemen have stepped up and played very well for the past few games.
I wonder when Salo gets injured.

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i think we're looking for a 2nd and a middling prospect. Dont think that's too unrealistic.

57-61 overall plus a prospect seems like fair value to me.

or maybe just a better prospect like rodin.

vancouver's prospect pool doesnt make for good trading partners as shirokov is a bad fit and other than rodin your other top guys are all d. (unless you'd actually move shroeder for phillips).
Than move Phillips to a team with a desperate need for a Dman. Like SJS, who have a history of trading late firsts for Rental Dmen (see Campbell, Brian).
Vancouver needs Phillips like I need a third nut. Itd be cool and something to talk about, but not at all necessary.

Murray should move Phillips to SJS, N Spezza to CBJ. Pick up 2 more firsts, one late, one decent.
Use 2 of those late firsts to move to the middle, use that middle n CBJ's to get 2 top 5 picks.
Thatd be a Philly-esque rebuild, where they got Richards n Carter same draft.

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Everyone sound the alarms, it's an e4!


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Wake me when E40 the rapper starts talking about this rumor, it will hold much more credibility that an E4.

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i still remember "Spezza to Calgary (E4)" although many analysts did say sutter was trying but they werent biting

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I wonder when Salo gets injured.
Ballard is set to be back in 2 - 3 weeks and Edler in 5 - 6 and if he can hold out until then, we'll be back to the defence that got us to the #1 in the league position.

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Oh ****, E4???
**** just got real son

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