HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Western Conference > Pacific Division > Edmonton Oilers
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

OUR top 15?

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
06-29-2004, 05:24 PM
  #1
thome_26
HFBoards Sponsor
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Edmonton
Country: Canada
Posts: 8,860
vCash: 500
Send a message via ICQ to thome_26
OUR top 15?

Ok, so I'm sure Guy is/will be working on preparing a great article and new top prospects list. I however thought it would be interesting to see what the general consensus of the hf Oilers board. Here's my top fifteen with tiny little blurbs for my top five (and I will state that I put more weight behind MAXIMUM value/potetial then probable value/potential... although both played a part):

1. Schremp
Easily our most skilled prospect. Robbie has allstar skills IMO it all just depends on his attitude (which I actually like so far from what I've seen)

2. Deslauriers
I guess I picked him over Dubnyk because of familiarity. Also, he was more universally thought of in his draft year, I thought, then what Dubnyk was (although selection order sure didn't show it).

3. Pouliot
Everything we hear about him has been good except for maybe the injuries. Seems like he has the great attitude to go along with his great skills.

4. Dubnyk
A goalie of his size and speed could turn into an amazing goalie some day... as saidin the Deslauriers thing - I guess he's below because of familiarity.

5. Woywitka
I think he has the best two-way potential of all our blueliners. Attitude and everything seems to be fine.
6. Lynch
7. Niinimaki
8. Rita
9. Greene
10.Salmelainen
11.Mikhnov
12.Brodziak
13.Reddox
14.Teslyuk
15.Gilbert

__________________
http://hfboards.com/forumdisplay.php?f=160 - the Unofficial HF Political board
thome_26 is offline  
Old
06-29-2004, 05:43 PM
  #2
YKOil
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,232
vCash: 500
If you go pure skill:

Schremp
Deslauriers
Pouliot
Woywitka
Lynch
Rita
Dubnyk
Niinimaki
Greene
Salmelainen
Mikhnov
Brodziak
Reddox
Teslyuk
Gilbert

If you go with ability to make the NHL and the surety that they will do so

Deslauriers
Woywitka
Lynch
Rita
Pouliot
Schremp
Dubnyk
Greene
Salmelainen
Niinimaki
Mikhnov
Brodziak
Reddox
Teslyuk
Gilbert

Kind of my take anyways,

YKOil

YKOil is offline  
Old
06-29-2004, 06:09 PM
  #3
laraque#27
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 64
vCash: 500
i think reddox should be in the top 10 maybe top 5.but i may be wrong don't know quite enough about him yet.but what i read and seen he looks like a steal.

laraque#27 is offline  
Old
06-29-2004, 06:17 PM
  #4
Bergeron47
Registered User
 
Bergeron47's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Australia
Country: Australia
Posts: 7,610
vCash: 500
My top 10:

1. Schremp
2. Deslauriers
3. Puliot
4. Woywitka
5. Niinimaki
6. Dubnyk
7. Lynch
8. Mikhnov
9. Brodziak
10. Salmelainen

Bergeron47 is offline  
Old
06-29-2004, 06:36 PM
  #5
surixon
Registered User
 
surixon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Winnipeg
Country: Canada
Posts: 4,242
vCash: 500
My list would be
1)Deslauriers-Has shown that he could potentialy be a great number 1 goalie, has all the tools, just a matter of improving consistency.
2)Pouliot-While he may not have as high of a ceiling as Schrimp, his overal game, great character and size leads me to beleive that he will have more of an impact on the team in the future.(I also beleive that he is not that far behind schrimp in terms of pure skill)
3)Woywitka-Looks to be a solid number 2-4 defender on the oilers in the future. Plays a good two way game and also put up many points once joining the road runners. I beleive he is ready to make the jump to the NHL level.
4)Lynch-Very similiar to Woywitka, I also beleive he is almost ready to take the next step
5)Shcremp-An offensive dynamo, no question that he has skill, but questions about his attitude, bad defensive play and lack of ability to buy into a team system have him rated down on my list.
6)Dubynk-Potential starter
7)Rita-I still beleive that he can be an impact player on the third line and will probably see what he can do this year with the trading of chimmer.
8)Greene-Don't know much about him but what I read sounds like hell be a mean sob to play against and a good 5-6 dman
9)Reddox-Potentialy the steal of the draft lead a very bad petes team in scoring in his rookie year mind you, also lead team canada u18 in scoring and named to the tournament allstar team. Has the potential to be be the next comrie in terms of skill, needs to work on strength and skating to take the next step.
10Niinimaki- must show that he can dominate the finish leage and overcome his season ending injury(The skill is there)
Thats all i have time for now

surixon is online now  
Old
06-29-2004, 07:10 PM
  #6
oil slick
HFBoards Sponsor
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 7,360
vCash: 500
After seeing these lists, am I being a total Oiler homer when I say we have an awesome system... I mean most of you guys have Mikhov outside of the top 10... I think that speaks volumes about our depth... but maybe I'm being a homer.

oil slick is offline  
Old
06-29-2004, 07:14 PM
  #7
USC Trojans
I have a plan.
 
USC Trojans's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: LA Oiler fan
Posts: 11,708
vCash: 500
I think when its time to re-rate the org rankings, we'd definitely move up to at least #2 (after Washington)
If we're counting well roundedness, we'd be #1. We're stacked in all aspects except right wing.

USC Trojans is offline  
Old
06-29-2004, 07:32 PM
  #8
ginner classic
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Kitsilano
Posts: 6,681
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by USC Trojans
I think when its time to re-rate the org rankings, we'd definitely move up to at least #2 (after Washington)
If we're counting well roundedness, we'd be #1. We're stacked in all aspects except right wing.
Uhhhhh methinks we have forgotten:
Pittsburgh....Chicago....Florida......Ottawa.....e tc. etc.

ginner classic is offline  
Old
06-29-2004, 07:44 PM
  #9
dawgbone
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Country: Canada
Posts: 21,104
vCash: 500
Send a message via ICQ to dawgbone Send a message via MSN to dawgbone
Quote:
Originally Posted by ginner
Uhhhhh methinks we have forgotten:
Pittsburgh....Chicago....Florida......Ottawa.....e tc. etc.
According to the HF definitions?

Certainly not Ottawa or Chicago.

Pittsburgh maybe, only because of Malkin, and Florida is iffy.

Once again, that's going on the HF definition of it.

__________________
TheSpecialist - MacT thinks he was that good of a hockey player when in actuality he was no better then a Louie Debrusk.
dawgbone is offline  
Old
06-29-2004, 07:46 PM
  #10
USC Trojans
I have a plan.
 
USC Trojans's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: LA Oiler fan
Posts: 11,708
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by ginner
Uhhhhh methinks we have forgotten:
Pittsburgh....Chicago....Florida......Ottawa.....e tc. etc.
We're ranked 3rd already...

I think even if Malkin, Barker, and Olesz don't end up graduating next year, they wouldn't have propelled their respective teams ahead of Edmonton, who did pretty darn well this past weekend.

Of course, this is all based on HF criteria.

USC Trojans is offline  
Old
06-30-2004, 12:38 AM
  #11
kruezer
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Toronto
Posts: 6,273
vCash: 500
I'd say the Oilers will still be top three, no doubt.

I think Washington will be No.1 next rankings (depending on if Ovechkin is still a prospect at the time, which is very possible)

kruezer is offline  
Old
06-30-2004, 12:40 AM
  #12
outKast*
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,664
vCash: 500
My list is not really based on anything more than my favorite prospects in this order.

1. Robbie Schremp
2. Jeff Woywitka
3. Devan Dubnyk
4. Matt Greene
5. Colin McDonald
6. Jeff Drouin Deslaurier
7. MA Poulliot
8. Doug Lynch
9. Jani Rita
10. Kyle Brodziak
11. Liam Reddox
12. Geoff Paukovich
13. Alexei Mihknov
14. Misha Joukov
15. Tyler Spurgeon

Notables

Niinimaki: Although it's waaaay too early to give up on him, I just don't think he'll make the NHL and if he does he will not be a top 6. He's just not an impact player. He's got the passing ability and skating ability but he's soft and his offensive potential really isn't promising. I still think this was a wasted pick. Stoll is best thing that came out of the draft.

Salmelainen : Theres no doubt in my mind that he'll be an NHL'er but with Lowe's recent promises of recreating a modern day "Broad Street Bullies" type of team, i just can't see another small player with a guy like Schremp already in the system.

Why i picked Tyler Spurgeon? I may be high on him but i've actually seen him play and he was the best player on ice at every game i've seen him. A lot of people have labled him as a bottom 6 forward ala Pisani but i think he has way higher potential than that. Don't let his stats fool you. This guy has the goods and offensive potential to be one of the biggest steal that no one knows about.

Brad Winchester: I really pulling for him to make the team, but i just don't see it. He may make the team and have a couple of stints here or there but if he wants to start out a career, i think it's best if he shopped his services to teams like Atlanta or Columbus where they will need him.

Joe Cullen: I don't know much about him to say anything so left him off. He may very be a great player.

outKast* is offline  
Old
06-30-2004, 12:54 AM
  #13
mowthecat
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: high on the mountain of love
Posts: 189
vCash: 500
Toss LA into that mix as well.

mowthecat is offline  
Old
06-30-2004, 12:57 AM
  #14
mowthecat
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: high on the mountain of love
Posts: 189
vCash: 500
I think you underestimate the Hawks. With 3 guys who are NHL for sures in Seabrooke, Babchuk, and Barker on D, and a ton of goalies I'd put them a little ahead of the Oilers.Guys like Vorobiev, Radulov,and Yakubov are closer than many of the Oiler prospects as well.

mowthecat is offline  
Old
06-30-2004, 01:03 AM
  #15
Boondock Saint
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,659
vCash: 500
Boondock's Oilers Top 20

OK, I'm gonna get radical here and shake things up a bit..... I might be a little partial to defensive d-men, but, hey....... I am one.....


1) M-A Pouliot

When I look at the injuries suffered by this kid (broken wrist, torn stomach muscle), it doesn't seem to me that he's a soft player. As of now, I'm gonna chalk it up to bad luck. Skill, size, character, leadership.... This kid won't lead the league in scoring, but he is a solid all-around player. Hopefully can captain Rimouski into the Memorial Cup this year and maybe even crack the WJC line-up. If the injuries keep rolling in, I would be tempted to lower him on this list by the end of next year, but as of right now, he is my #1.


2) Jeff Woywitka

Has ALL the tools. Big, strong skater who makes safe, quick decisions with the puck. Not as flashy as some would like, but I love how dependable he can be. I think he won't ever have the offensive upside to be a true #1 d-man, but he will play a TON of minutes in all situations. Future backbone for the Oilers D. (Kind of odd, since he was acquired for the one without a backbone) This kid is for real. Oil's safest bet to play for the big squad.


3) Rob Schremp

Right up there with Hemsky in terms of pure skill. Love him or hate him, the kid can put the puck in the net. Was obviously pissed at falling so far in the draft. It will either make him stronger or destroy his confidence. Will show what he's made of in the upcoming year. Whether it's playing in Edmonton, London or at the WJC's, Rob Schremp's character (or potential lack thereof) will be revealed in the upcoming season, either rocketing him to the top of this list, or dropping him farther near the bottom. Highest upside on the list.


4) Doug Lynch

Higher risk and reward than Woywitka. Made the jump to pro look like a snap. Really surprised in the A, especially in the offensive end. Sophomore year will be very interesting. Skating was less of a concern than originally thought. Very dedicated and another character guy. Saw him fight Wade Brookbank's brother on the Score last year and Doug can actually throw them.


5) Matt Greene

The only thing holding this guy behind Lynch on my list is the fact that he has yet to lace them up in the pros. Big, mean........... mean..... Can play a bit too.... Tough enough to keep opponents in check, good enough to play a regular shift. Guy's interviews have also shown how high Oiler brass are on this kid too. Wish he would make the jump to the pros so we could see him in the A.


6) Devan Dubnyk

Monstrous, smart goaltender. The more I hear about the kid, the more I feel he might have the highest upside for a goaltender in the draft. Still very raw, but has a good head for the game and is very committed. Was shocked to hear about the shooting tendency chart that he keeps for the WHL. This is a 17 year-old kid, and he is making pie charts on the shooters in his junior league. Why he's almost crazy and dedicated enough to become a poster on HF...... Well, maybe not THAT dedicated. Big year for him as he tries out for the WJC team and comes into his second year starting in the 'Loops.


7) Jeff Drouin-Deslauriers

I think his previous ranking was aided by his importance to our organization. I think we put too much stock in JDD as, being our only goaltending prospect, his success was very important to the Oil. But on his merit as a player alone, I wouldn't put JDD higher than #6. Very high-end potential, but a LONG, TOUGH road ahead to deal with his very serious consistency issues. Needs to be eased into the pro game. Patience will be the key to JDD's development.


8) Jesse Niinimaki

I was very pleased with his solid start to the year. (which I monitored via Seachd's awesome 'Prospect Thread' Sticky) His shoulder injury couldn't have come at a worse time. He's lost a whole year, and a very important one at that, of development. He goes from a top two line spot on a Finnish Elite League team to battling to make his way into the Elite league again. Must have been a very frustrating year for him. Will need most of this season just to get back where he was as a player.


9) Tony Salmelainen

Quick, energy player with unknown offensive upside. Has enough hustle to make himself useful even when he's not scoring. Won't be a high scorer, but will use his speed to create chances and potentially keep him in the lineup.


10) Jani Rita

Good when he's on, but hasn't developed the consistency expected of him in his years in the A. Will need to find ways to keep himself in MacT's lineup even when he's not scoring, or he'll end up eating a lot of popcorn in Scott Ferguson's old seat next year. If he kept up his intensity and drive, he would be good enough to be an NHL regular.

To be continued

Boondock Saint is offline  
Old
06-30-2004, 06:17 AM
  #16
Yanner39
Registered User
 
Yanner39's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Ottawa ON
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,334
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by ginner
Uhhhhh methinks we have forgotten:
Pittsburgh....Chicago....Florida......Ottawa.....e tc. etc.
Not Ottawa for sure. They have a great system but they are getting low at certain position ie on defense. That's why they drafted Mezazros. The goaltending spot got better with the signing on Kelly Guard but all their "prospects" have graduated to the big club.

Yanner39 is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:00 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.