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02-13-2011, 12:52 PM
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Hemsky at the deadline

I've seen a few threads on him, but most haven't seen a general agreement on both sides. What is this guy's value? I know he is injury-prone, but he has the talent and I can think he can put it all together if he plays with talented guys. So what is Hemsky's value at the deadline assuming that the Oilers will be sellers?

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02-13-2011, 12:54 PM
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1st + good prospect or young 2nd line forward/2nd pairing dman + 2nd.

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02-13-2011, 12:55 PM
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Personally I'd be happy with a 1st+Great Center Prospect/Shutdown D prospect+Salary Dump.

Seeing what Fisher got though certainly IMO raises Hemskys value though.

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Have talked about this on another thread and Car fans think this is fair:
Hemsky, Chorney

Alt, Dulpe, 1st

I think that is something both teams can agree upon.

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02-13-2011, 01:16 PM
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It would take a big overpayment to get him out of Edmonton, something along the lines of 1st + 2nd + Good Prospect. Hes not a rental since he still has a year left on his contract and has a great contract.

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It would take a big overpayment to get him out of Edmonton, something along the lines of 1st + 2nd + Good Prospect. Hes not a rental since he still has a year left on his contract and has a great contract.
I would love if we could get a deal like that, then try to package that 1st +2nd with our own 2nd for a top 8 pick.

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I think Hemsky's injury history is going to reduce his value substantially. I don't think any team is going to want to give up a lot for a player who just can't stay healthy.

That said, I think that some team will pick him up at a discount price (either in a trade or as a UFA in summer 2012) and look like geniuses, because when Hemsky gets in the right environment, the results are going to be spectacular.

I could see somebody who thinks they have a legit shot in this year's playoffs giving up draft picks and prospects to get Hemsky to help put them over the top.

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I think the Oilers are sitting pretty good right now. Just taking offers from interested parties. Someones going to end up overpaying for both Penner and Hemsky. Once one is gone there will surely be a bidding war for that remaining top 6 forward available.

Tambellini should just sit tight......till that Tor/Bos pick or even Seguin is on the table, they get neither. Penner++ or Hemsky++ will net the Oilers what they'll need going forward. The Kings are going to have to do something soon as well, it's times like these that teams are willing to forego long term common sense for a shot at short term glory.

I'd sit tight and let nature take its course this next couple weeks, with a little luck the Oilers could have Seguin and Schenn in Oiler silks soon.

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02-13-2011, 01:55 PM
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Have talked about this on another thread and Car fans think this is fair:
Hemsky, Chorney

Alt, Dulpe, 1st

I think that is something both teams can agree upon.
Not close from an Oiler's perspective. Don't know why we'd give up our best player for that. As others have said, wait..If we don't get what we need, keep Hemsky. No issues.

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The Oilers don't have to trade him. If other teams are going to pursue him than the asking price will be more.

Obviously it depends on the package coming back but 1st + young roster player + pick/prospect would be what Edmonton should be looking for.

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Not close from an Oiler's perspective. Don't know why we'd give up our best player for that. As others have said, wait..If we don't get what we need, keep Hemsky. No issues.
Hemsky isn't our best player anymore. It's time to move on.

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Hemsky isn't our best player anymore. It's time to move on.
He's pretty clearly better than Penner, so who do you have in mind?

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He's pretty clearly better than Penner, so who do you have in mind?
I think he's referring to Hall, who WILL be better than Hemsky in the future.

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I think he's referring to Hall, who WILL be better than Hemsky in the future.
Of course he will, but that's not what was said.

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I think he's referring to Hall, who WILL be better than Hemsky in the future.
Edit:Wrong thread

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Bogosian?

How about Bogosian (Rumored to be moved) straight up for Hemsky?

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Hemsky isn't our best player anymore. It's time to move on.
??..Hemmer is 27 years old and is in the prime of his career. He's had injury problems and even played through some, including a concussion. Despite all that, he's still got one of the best PPG stats on the team (next to Eberle) and can control the play like very few players on our team. He still has top value in the NHL and should command top price. If we don't get it, no issue with keeping a player of that ilk. Your dislike for him is noted but at least try to keep a reasonably open mind. Giving up an asset like him for very little in return would be idiotic.
Some people's impatience and looking for change for the sake of change should not rub off on management. Stay the course unless it's an over-payment.

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02-13-2011, 02:27 PM
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Hemsky is very good but YES his injury history WILL reduce his value to other teams.

Sure it may take an overpayment form another team which oil fans are right to assume, but to that end how many teams have you seen in recent years overpay for star players with years left on their contract?

I know for a fact we have seen small returns on star players way more often then overpayment for star players over the last 5-7 years.

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02-13-2011, 02:54 PM
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I offered ahy three of...

...Brett MacLean, Maxim Goncharov, Viktor Tikhonov, and/or Phoenix's 2011 1st...

...and most Oilers fans declined. Many seem to feel that he's worth anywhere from Gormley and a 2nd to Gormley, Boedker, MacLean AND a 1st. Obviously that is outright stupid, and I hope that the poster who suggested it is either mentally challenged, drunk, or eight years old. Hopefully not all three, but very possibly so.

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=875962

So, the answer to the initial post in this thread is apparently "More than Crosby". At least in the eyes of one or two bad apples that are bound to show up here soon to fill this thread with an equal amount of fail.

EDIT: Most Oilers fans are level headed and intelligent. Most of those fans avoid the Proposals Forum.

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...Brett MacLean, Maxim Goncharov, Viktor Tikhonov, and/or Phoenix's 2011 1st...

...and most Oilers fans declined. Many seem to feel that he's worth anywhere from Gormley and a 2nd to Gormley, Boedker, MacLean AND a 1st. Obviously that is outright stupid, and I hope that the poster who suggested it is either mentally challenged, drunk, or eight years old. Hopefully not all three, but very possibly so.

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=875962

So, the answer to the initial post in this thread is apparently "More than Crosby". At least in the eyes of one or two bad apples that are bound to show up here soon to fill this thread with an equal amount of fail.

EDIT: Most Oilers fans are level headed and intelligent. Most of those fans avoid the Proposals Forum.
I personally wouldn't trade him for any less than Gormley, and I don't even know if I'd do that.

Hemsky has shown his potential, Gormley, of course, hasn't, but that's because he was just drafted.

Some would do it, some wouldn't, but I'm not sure I see how it's stupid.

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I personally wouldn't trade him for any less than Gormley, and I don't even know if I'd do that.

Hemsky has shown his potential, Gormley, of course, hasn't, but that's because he was just drafted.

Some would do it, some wouldn't, but I'm not sure I see how it's stupid.
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Many seem to feel that he's worth ... Gormley, Boedker, MacLean AND a 1st.

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He's pretty clearly better than Penner, so who do you have in mind?
Is he? I'm not so sure about that. I prefer the always healthy, big goal scorer who can play any forward position over the oft injured small playmaker.

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IMO, Hemsky is overhyped BIG TIME. Kid has never played a full 82 game season. He has great playmaking abilities, but what good is it when he can't play? Some of the returns the Oil fans are asking is complete stupidity. Schenn straight up for Hems? C'mon.

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Hemsky is very good but YES his injury history WILL reduce his value to other teams.

Sure it may take an overpayment form another team which oil fans are right to assume, but to that end how many teams have you seen in recent years overpay for star players with years left on their contract?

I know for a fact we have seen small returns on star players way more often then overpayment for star players over the last 5-7 years.
Well, usually that is because their is like 20 games left on their contract, or they are asking for a trade.

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