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02-10-2011, 09:04 PM
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Spezza for Voracek/Brassard, Mason and Commodore?

Salary is about equal going both ways and this gives OTT a solid young G and C or Winger
CLB finally gets an elite C for Nash

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Spezza for Voracek/Brassard, Mason and Commodore?

Salary is about equal going both ways and this gives OTT a solid young G and C
CLB finally gets an elite C for Nash
I think it's pretty good value.

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Thinking Ottawa says no:

Mason is looking like a one hit wonder, and Ottawa already took one Columbus flub goalie in Leclaire

Commodore is overpaid and a 6th / 7th d-man

And Voracek / Brassard are looking more like second line centers than firsts.

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Spezza has way too much value. He's a legit 1st line Center and we could rebuild our forward core around him pretty quickly.

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i wouldn't do this as a jackets fan and i know most ott fans would not do this.

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No. Commodore has been here and wasn't a fit.

Also, not sure if anyone heard the Alfie interview yesterday, he called Spezza the heir apparent to his captaincy. In hindsight, we should have realized he probably knew Fisher was being moved.

Spezza won't be moved.

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Spezza has way too much value. He's a legit 1st line Center and we could rebuild our forward core around him pretty quickly.
He's also injury prone, so his value is lowered.

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Commodore was only thrown in to equal out salary. He'd probably be waived to minors again

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He's also injury prone, so his value is lowered.
So the trading value of an untouchable player has been lowered. Relevant point indeed.

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02-10-2011, 09:58 PM
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No...Commodore just makes it even easier to ignore any CLB-Ott trade proposals.

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This just doesn't make sense. CBJ has no one to play in goal, so why give up Mason?

The numbers may work but CBJ has to have a goalie to play in Mason's place.

You have to look at the other team's roster and the depth in the organization to see if the proposal fits. This doesn't even come close.

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spezza sucks. He doesnt play defense, all his offense was a mirage because of heatley, he's injury prone, and has a terrible contract.


you dont want him. okay?

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spezza sucks. He doesnt play defense, all his offense was a mirage because of heatley, he's injury prone, and has a terrible contract.


you dont want him. okay?
What he said.

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02-10-2011, 11:04 PM
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I would trade Spezza to the Jackets only if the players coming back where:

-Ryan Johansen
-Jakub Voracek
-Steve Mason
-1st Round Pick

.... Obviously Columbus wouldn't do that.

In short, we'll keep Spezza.

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If Spezza was going to be traded I do think that CLB would be where he goes. Brassard, Voracek and 2nd

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you dont want him. okay?
Ironically, it's never a Columbus fan who starts these Spezza to CBJ threads....

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No to trade - big NO to Commadore - why would Ottawa eat that salary????

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Lol at the guy who said Brass and Jake are 2nd line players. Watch a Columbus game thanks. Dont want Spezza. We have Brass and Johan.

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Lol at the guy who said Brass and Jake are 2nd line players. Watch a Columbus game thanks. Dont want Spezza. We have Brass and Johan.
Brassard isnt a first line center... And I watch almost every game

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Brassard isnt a first line center... And I watch almost every game
By virtue of playing on the first line with Nash and actually having some chemistry, Brassard defaults to first-line center.

What most people don't recognize is that Nash is an extremely difficult player to be lined up with. There's been a small number who he has had chemistry with at any point (Joe Thornton being the most notable) but a lot who simply cannot adjust their game to feed the big guy. International tournaments are either boom or bust for him for this very reason. Remember last year in the Olympics, where the idea of a Crosby/Nash pairing on the top line had plenty of people drooling....and it didn't work because they simply could not mesh their games?

Brassard and Nash have good chemistry. Not great, but good. And that's a heck of a lot more than what we've seen in the last eight years.

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02-14-2011, 08:33 AM
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By virtue of playing on the first line with Nash and actually having some chemistry, Brassard defaults to first-line center.

What most people don't recognize is that Nash is an extremely difficult player to be lined up with. There's been a small number who he has had chemistry with at any point (Joe Thornton being the most notable) but a lot who simply cannot adjust their game to feed the big guy. International tournaments are either boom or bust for him for this very reason. Remember last year in the Olympics, where the idea of a Crosby/Nash pairing on the top line had plenty of people drooling....and it didn't work because they simply could not mesh their games?

Brassard and Nash have good chemistry. Not great, but good. And that's a heck of a lot more than what we've seen in the last eight years.

Here's a take on that from Michael Arace of the Columbus Dispatch:


"The most startling development is the emergence of the first line. Nash has eight goals and 16 points in the past 15 games. Brassard has five goals and 13 points in the past 13. Voracek has five goals and 18 points in the past 21. We're talking about point-per-game players during this stretch. As impressive - and rare, in these parts - as that may be, it does not come close to describing the recent impact of this trio of 26-and-unders.

They are dangerous. You can feel it every time they turn to attack.

This is a departure. As longtime Jackets fans can attest, lingering danger is a quality most often found in opponents. It is what you felt when Brad Richards was on the ice yesterday; it came right through the television. It is what you felt in Nationwide Arena when the Peter Forsberg-Matt Duchene-Milan Hejduk line was on for Colorado on Friday night. It is in the tension supplied by such All-Star centers as Jonathan Toews, Joe Thornton, Pavel Datsyuk and Henrik Zetterberg.

The Jackets have one All-Star, Nash, and he is nearly as transformative as a potent centerman. He is doing for Brassard and Voracek this season what he did for a pair of veterans last season - when his then-linemates, Antoine Vermette and Kristian Huselius, had career years."


Point is, Brassard is currently playing like a #1 guy and Nash does, indeed, improve the players around him. I like Spezza; but, considering the cost, I'd rather go after a top-pairing defenseman for the CBJ.

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Here's a take on that from Michael Arace of the Columbus Dispatch:


"The most startling development is the emergence of the first line. Nash has eight goals and 16 points in the past 15 games. Brassard has five goals and 13 points in the past 13. Voracek has five goals and 18 points in the past 21. We're talking about point-per-game players during this stretch. As impressive - and rare, in these parts - as that may be, it does not come close to describing the recent impact of this trio of 26-and-unders.

They are dangerous. You can feel it every time they turn to attack.

This is a departure. As longtime Jackets fans can attest, lingering danger is a quality most often found in opponents. It is what you felt when Brad Richards was on the ice yesterday; it came right through the television. It is what you felt in Nationwide Arena when the Peter Forsberg-Matt Duchene-Milan Hejduk line was on for Colorado on Friday night. It is in the tension supplied by such All-Star centers as Jonathan Toews, Joe Thornton, Pavel Datsyuk and Henrik Zetterberg.

The Jackets have one All-Star, Nash, and he is nearly as transformative as a potent centerman. He is doing for Brassard and Voracek this season what he did for a pair of veterans last season - when his then-linemates, Antoine Vermette and Kristian Huselius, had career years."


Point is, Brassard is currently playing like a #1 guy and Nash does, indeed, improve the players around him. I like Spezza; but, considering the cost, I'd rather go after a top-pairing defenseman for the CBJ.

I like Columbus so that's cool.
Doesnt mean i dont want to pry some players out of you though....

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My point. Brassard is developing into a potential 1st line centerman along with Voracek on the wing. We dont want to break that up.

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I like Columbus so that's cool.
Doesnt mean i dont want to pry some players out of you though....
I like the Sens, as well. I'm not sure, though, that a trade is there to be made, at this time. We've dealt with each other in the past, so it's always possible.

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Possibly Foligno to the CBJ this offseason? Is he likely to stick around there, or could Howson offer something?

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