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02-15-2011, 11:17 AM
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never in a thousand years I accept this deal for the Isles

Streit alone (when healthy) is worth more than those picks

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02-15-2011, 11:20 AM
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I'm rooting for the Isles, but they need to open up the wallet in free agency or it'll be a long time before they make the playoffs. All indications are Wang will not do so until he gets the lighthouse project. I feel for you guys, hopefully Nino makes the team and wins the Calder next year so you guys get some new blood in there.

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02-15-2011, 12:09 PM
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Makes absolutely no sense for the Isles and that offer would not suffice for Streit alone let alone Nielsen.

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I'm rooting for the Isles, but they need to open up the wallet in free agency or it'll be a long time before they make the playoffs. All indications are Wang will not do so until he gets the lighthouse project. I feel for you guys, hopefully Nino makes the team and wins the Calder next year so you guys get some new blood in there.
They've tried to open the wallet. It's tough to get UFAs to come to a team still rebuilding when they can go to Pitt or Vancouver and immediately compete for the Cup.

The past few proposals with the Isles have involved near-untouchables in Streit, Nielsen, and Hamonic. They're core components to the rebuild and to drop them would mean more years in the basement for no reason. The pieces are in place, they just need to add a young vet or two with playoff chops and stay healthy.

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02-15-2011, 12:40 PM
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I think the 3rd should be another 2nd, but I doubt this will happen


I would help us when we trade Campbell away, Streit would get his spot and is the cheaper version. But all this won't happen (and no, I don't want to start how to get Campbells contract away)

and Isles Fans, there is no way you can get Olsen, Leddy, Beach, Morin or Krüger (I know this will come up as topic)
none of them can get you Streit you mean. and youd be right, to get Streit it starts with Seabrook plus

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02-15-2011, 12:43 PM
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none of them can get you Streit you mean. and youd be right, to get Streit it starts with Seabrook plus
There is no GM in the league, including Snow (and Milbury for that matter) that would trade Seabrook for Streit straight up, EVEN IF Seabrook was in the middle of a hold out.

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02-15-2011, 01:46 PM
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Has to be a delusional Hawk fan...

Counter offer


Sharp for Gervais and Shremp

It is the same thing .....get it?

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02-15-2011, 02:04 PM
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There is no GM in the league, including Snow (and Milbury for that matter) that would trade Seabrook for Streit straight up, EVEN IF Seabrook was in the middle of a hold out.
streit is better than seabrook...

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02-15-2011, 02:05 PM
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streit is better than seabrook...
I agree, and its not even close

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02-15-2011, 02:06 PM
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streit is better than seabrook...
So is Lidstrom, I fail to see your point.

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So is Lidstrom, I fail to see your point.
you just said no GM would trade seabrook straight across for streit

also i beleive that the islanders woes this season are directly a result of streit being out, ahead of everything else..i could see them challenging for a playoff spot if he played all season..8th..but still a playoff berth


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02-15-2011, 02:23 PM
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none of them can get you Streit you mean. and youd be right, to get Streit it starts with Seabrook plus
Horray, Mr Overrating Isles Players is here...

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02-15-2011, 02:25 PM
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you just said no GM would trade seabrook straight across for streit
And I stand by that. Also, no GM would trade Seabrook for Lidstrom. Age is a factor.

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And I stand by that. Also, no GM would trade Seabrook for Lidstrom. Age is a factor.
im not sure why your talking about lidstrom..but if your referring to streits age, hes only 33

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Horray, Mr Overrating Isles Players is here...
nobody overates players more than you Bubba,

Streit is better than Seabrook period. he's been an all Star, as far as I know Seabrook never has

Seabrook 392 30 114 144
Streit..... 361 52 162 214


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02-15-2011, 03:01 PM
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im not sure why your talking about lidstrom..but if your referring to streits age, hes only 33
What do you think about a Hossa for Tavares trade? Hossa is better.

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02-15-2011, 03:09 PM
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nobody overates players more than you Bubba,

Streit is better than Seabrook period. he's been an all Star, as far as I know Seabrook never has

Seabrook 392 30 114 144
Streit..... 361 52 162 214
I wouldn't trade Seabrook for Streit straight...

I'm pretty sure no GM would do it (as long as Seabrook don't goes out and does a Heatley)



who do I overrate? Haven't you said sometime you want 1 of our Top prospects with a deal based on Nielsen? or that Nielsen is better than Bolland?

And don't come to show me more Stats, I don't care who got an assist more than the other.

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02-15-2011, 03:19 PM
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nobody overates players more than you Bubba,

Streit is better than Seabrook period. he's been an all Star, as far as I know Seabrook never has

Seabrook 392 30 114 144
Streit..... 361 52 162 214
Riiight. Streit's stats cover the heart of his prime years (which are over). Seabrook hasn't even entered his prime yet.

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02-15-2011, 03:26 PM
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What do you think about a Hossa for Tavares trade? Tavares is better.
Fixed it for you.

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I wouldn't trade Seabrook for Streit straight...

I'm pretty sure no GM would do it (as long as Seabrook don't goes out and does a Heatley)



who do I overrate? Haven't you said sometime you want 1 of our Top prospects with a deal based on Nielsen? or that Nielsen is better than Bolland?

And don't come to show me more Stats, I don't care who got an assist more than the other.
Seabrook and Bolland for two. and have you compared their numbers?

Bolland makes 6 times what Nielsen does and has more points and a better plus minus than Bolland

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02-15-2011, 03:31 PM
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Fixed it for you.
What about Sharp for Tavares...or is Tavares better than sharp too? How about Turco for a NYC rat? Rat better? Alright, I can't really argue with that.

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What about Sharp for Tavares...or is Tavares better than sharp too? How about Turco for a NYC rat? Rat better? Alright, I can't really argue with that.
No Sharp is so much better than Tavares!!! He has 2 more points in 2 more games played than JT. Tavares even has great players on his like line Toews, Hossa, and Kane. If only JT had the potential and skill that Sharp has.

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Riiight. Streit's stats cover the heart of his prime years (which are over). Seabrook hasn't even entered his prime yet.
Seabrook will never have a season like streits best

its not his fault no one gave him the chance before that, he was a star for the Swiss world cup teams for 10 years

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Seabrook and Bolland for two. and have you compared their numbers?

Bolland makes 6 times what Nielsen does and has more points and a better plus minus than Bolland



what have I said that makes you believe I overrate Seabrook or Bolland? Because I say Bolland is the better player than Nielsen? News for you, he is and he has proven it. Take out the contracts and you should realize it.


and great... more stats to prove Nielsen is better than Bolland will follow... can't wait for it


Stats aren't everything, Streit is an Offensive DMen, he will always have more points than Seabrook....

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02-15-2011, 03:54 PM
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Riiight. Streit's stats cover the heart of his prime years (which are over). Seabrook hasn't even entered his prime yet.
How can you possibly say that Streit's prime years are over? Do you know Streit's personal health and how his body is reacting to aging. His shoulder was a fluke injury where he caught a rut as he was being checked in the preseason. It was an acute injury, one that the Islanders are rehabbing properly which should lead to no chronic tendencies. The truth is Streit has spent the majority of his playing career in the Swiss leagues where they have a shorter schedule and playing on the Hab's fourth line. He hasn't played that much hockey that his body is breaking down. He is a very young 33, one that I wouldnt mind being on the Isles through this rebuild. I'd say his value is close to Seabrook and when Seabrook is looking for a raise soon and Streit is on a reliable contract, I'd say that it would have to be Seabrook + (a small +) to get Streit

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