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Simple really... with Aulie's emergence, Toronto has to move him. They can't be spending $4.5m for a defenceman to grossly underachieve on the 3rd pair of a team where he's a major misfit, and when they have 3 younger guys (2 of whom are cheaper, the other is the captain) who play his role. The Beauchemin deal is also a good framework, treating Komisarek as Lupul.
Toronto should be willing to do one of the following:
1. Take on a defenceman in return with more puckmoving ability.
2. Take on a bonafide top 6 centre who is overpaid by UFA standards in the same region as Komisarek (less than $1.5m)
3. Take on a big top 6 LWer. (again overpaid by less than $1.5m)
4. Give up assets for a team to take him and not send salary beyond this year in return.
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Komi hasn't been playing his best hockey, Leafs will need to find a very desperate trading partner for D or take on an almost equally bad contract in exchange.
Komi hasn't been playing his best hockey, Leafs will need to find a very desperate trading partner for D or take on an almost equally bad contract in exchange.
I'm fully aware. That's what happens when as a GM, you trade for a player (Phaneuf) to replace another one (Komisarek), but instead of moving that player out in the deal or a related one, you let his value plummet as he becomes a major misfit in your lineup.
There's nothing wrong with taking on an equally bad contract though. The key is to take a bad contract in the area of your team where you can make use of the bad contract. If Toronto didn't have Phaneuf (or even Schenn), the need to trade Komisarek would be non-existent. He'd be a marginally overpaid top 4 physical defenceman for us where our only other physical guys are Schenn and Aulie.
@Gregor, Toronto needs ANOTHER top 4 puckmoving defenceman, top 6 centre, and big LW. We only have one of each and need two of each.
Komisarek is a cap dump, and has negative value. I don't get why you fail to see this.
Yes I agree. Although you do see some players who are said to have negative value around these parts be traded for something of value, I do not think this is 1 of those cases. Komisarek has been brutal and I never understood that signing in the first place.
In order for the Leafs to move Komisarek, we would probably be looking at taking on a hefty contract for a currently underperforming player in return. Given that we have already taken on a player of that nature in Joffrey Lupul I can't help but wonder if there won't be a good fit for the trade.
Jfried is correct, however, that Komisarek has been misplaced as of late. No excuse for his subpar play but with the Leafs rolling with the younger shutdown guys in Schenn and Aulie Komisarek could become a cap pain in the near future.
I feel bad for the guy. He seems like a genuinely good guy and outspoken leader. Perhaps a team with cap space looking for that particular attribute could pick him off waivers but the most likely scenario in which Komisarek comes off the cap would be a burying in the minors IMO which is unlikely in and of itself.
The most probable course of action will be to take the cap hit and have Komisarek play hoping he can regain form.
With the addition of Lupul, the Leafs are constricted cap wise, and need to dump Komisarek's contract to free up space to hopefully sign someone who can move the puck.
What hypocrisy? Those 3 players are all underpaid and extremely valuable to the Leafs. That doesn't mean other teams don't have similar types of players who are overpaid and they want to be rid of.
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Originally Posted by Coach Parker
(-) Negative value at this point.
It would make more sense to try and move him in the off-season.
Actually, it problably makes more sense to move him now. In the offseason, everyone has the option of pursuing UFAs on July 1. This would represent an opportunity for a team to pick up a useful player at the deadline for basically free, or send another bad contract back.
There are ways to move overpaid players at the deadline. Heck, look no further than Joffrey Lupul.
@Spasmic Dan, there's no point in waiting longer with Komisarek. He's not going to regain his form unless he plays in the top 4 with a puckmover. That's not going to happen with Schenn and Phaneuf here.
To TOR:
F Sergei Samsonov (UFA at season's end)
2011 3rd Round Pick
I think Komi could fit very well in Carolina. They're a team in contention, little to no media pressure and with Pitkanen, Gleason and Corvo, he probably won't have play huge minutes.
To TOR:
F Sergei Samsonov (UFA at season's end)
2011 3rd Round Pick
I think Komi could fit very well in Carolina. They're a team in contention, little to no media pressure and with Pitkanen, Gleason and Corvo, he probably won't have play huge minutes.
Leafs run away laughing.
You could probably get him for a 5th, hell, a 7th.
To TOR:
F Sergei Samsonov (UFA at season's end)
2011 3rd Round Pick
I think Komi could fit very well in Carolina. They're a team in contention, little to no media pressure and with Pitkanen, Gleason and Corvo, he probably won't have play huge minutes.
If Burke were offered that, he'd be a complete fool to turn it down. Samsonov is 100% irrelevant (bury him if you don't like him, don't even bother talking contract with him), and a 3rd round pick is well, something of some positive value.
That would also allow the Canes to move Ian White and problably get themselves a 2nd rounder, or if Pitkanen won't resign, move him to get a 1st rounder.
