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Brad Richards to PIT (rental)

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02-16-2011, 12:14 PM
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Brad Richards to PIT (rental)

With Malkin out for the season the Pens have cap room.
Dallas are slowly falling out of the playoff race.

If Dallas are on the ouside looking in on Feb 28, what would the Pens have to give up to land Richards?

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02-16-2011, 12:15 PM
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With Malkin out for the season the Pens have cap room.
Dallas are slowly falling out of the playoff race.

If Dallas are on the ouside looking in on Feb 28, what would the Pens have to give up to land Richards?
A lot.

1st in 2011, 1st in 2012 +?

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02-16-2011, 12:16 PM
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A lot.

1st in 2011, 1st in 2012 +?
two firsts + for a pure rental?

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02-16-2011, 12:21 PM
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Despres, Sneep and a 1st

If you're going to pry Richards out of Dallas, he's not going to come cheap.

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two firsts for a pure rental.
I think there's going to be a lot of teams trying to land Richards, so it's whoever offers up the best deal. And if they don't think it's worth it they won't deal him but I would be surprised if that happened.

You have to keep in mind though that Pittsburgh's 1st round picks aren't going to be very high. They're on the same level roughly as some other teams' second round picks.

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02-16-2011, 12:22 PM
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Why the hell would they give up prime assets for three months of Richards?

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02-16-2011, 12:23 PM
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Goligoski + a 1st would get it done. Stars could definitely use a PMD like Goligoski

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02-16-2011, 12:23 PM
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two firsts for a pure rental.
That's what Hossa and Kovalchuk got (Esposito and Bergfors were recent 1st rounders at the time of those trades) and Richards is as coveted (if made available) as they were.

Pittsburgh will not go and get Richards. Not happening.

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probably would be similar to the cost of Hossa a couple years back.

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I don't think the Stars have ruled out re-signing Richards.

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Not worth it for pens. I don't want to see them trade the future for a couple months of Richards

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It's not like the Stars are on the outside looking in, they are going to make the playoffs. Therefore the price for Richards would be higher than it would be if he played for a team like Edmonton.

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If Malkin were the only injury, I might be more interested in giving up assets for a rental.

I'd rather trade those assets for a non-rental winger.

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02-16-2011, 12:33 PM
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If Malkin were the only injury, I might be more interested in giving up assets for a rental.

I'd rather trade those assets for a non-rental winger.
Exactly! Pittsburgh doesn't even need to do this if Crosby doesn't come back and center is the least of our worries even with the injuries.

No need to give up anything major for Richards.

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02-16-2011, 12:36 PM
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Pens can't afford to resign Richards if Dallas wants to move Richards someone else will offer a whole lot more than the Pens will.

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Makes absolutely no sense. The Pens would be better off targeting a long term solution to their problems for the assets it would take to get Richards.

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The Pens are more than Brad Richards away from a cup. Don't get me wrong he's a great player but not what we need in a rental. If anything I'd look for a long term fix at wing from Dallas. Goligoski and a first for Benn or Neal? Maybe add Tangradi from the pens side and a second from Dallas.

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There's no point in trading for Richards for the Pens because they won't re-sign him.

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I imagine the price would be something along the lines of 1st + Kennedy/Letestu/Jeffrey + Despres ifDallas were out of the picture and shopping Richards or 1st + Goligoski. Even if Sid was healthy I wouldn't want to pay either price.

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Oh my god Dallas is in the same boat as half the Western conference playoff teams. Are they going to sell off their best assets too? Give me a break. They're one point from the division lead with a game at hand for christ's sake.

Anyways, the Penguins would have to give up too much. We'd be relinquishing a lot of assets to replace Malkin for 3 months with a player that's not as good as him. It makes no sense and plus Shero doesn't want to give up any of the really good assets we have so the offer would be a mish mash along the lines of 1st/2nd/Despres/Tangradi, Despres being the only non-vanilla asset of the entire bunch.

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Oh my god Dallas is in the same boat as half the Western conference playoff teams. Are they going to sell off their best assets too? Give me a break. They're one point from the division lead with a game at hand for christ's sake.

Anyways, the Penguins would have to give up too much. We'd be relinquishing a lot of assets to replace Malkin for 3 months with a player that's not as good as him. It makes no sense and plus Shero doesn't want to give up any of the really good assets we have so the offer would be a mish mash along the lines of 1st/2nd/Despres/Tangradi, Despres being the only non-vanilla asset of the entire bunch.
plus Richards would be downgrading linemates big time, Playing with Matt Cooke and Max Talbot is a big downgrade from Loui Eriksson and James Neal.

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Does Pittsburgh not regret gutting their bottom 6 for Hossa a few years back only to not win the cup that year + he signs somewhere else? I think they would rather make a trade for some good but not elite wingers.

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Any rentals for the Pens make no sense. This season is pretty much shot with all the injuries...no guarantee Sid will even be back for this season.

There's no reason for the Pens to give up any of their future in an attempt to salvage this season...only players who are under contract for at least the next few seasons make sense for the Pens.

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Does Pittsburgh not regret gutting their bottom 6 for Hossa a few years back only to not win the cup that year + he signs somewhere else? I think they would rather make a trade for some good but not elite wingers.
No. Hell we even got our current 1st line winger in that Hossa deal

Esposito is a bust, Christensen was a complete non-factor, Colby was a fan favorite but replaced and upgraded by Dupuis in the lineup and that 1st rounder was a late pick and easily worth losing for a cup run. It's a deal that Pens would do 10 times out of 10.

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Does Pittsburgh not regret gutting their bottom 6 for Hossa a few years back only to not win the cup that year + he signs somewhere else? I think they would rather make a trade for some good but not elite wingers.
Nope...it's one of Shero's best moves to date.

Sure, the Pens lost the Cup that year, but you could easly say they don't win the Cup the next year without getting to that point in 2008 first.


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