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02-16-2011, 05:03 PM
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This return could bring in a bonafied star, would STL be willing to give Backes away for this return assuming they give up on the playoffs at deadline day?

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I like the package, but I wouldn't trade Backes if we just re-signed him. He brings so much to the Blues, it's ridiculous.

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I'd rather not give all that up for Backes. Also, he's not a "bonafide star". Far from it.

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From MTL POV, I would do it. Backes is big, he fights, he scores, he hits he can do everything. Thats the exact type of guy we need to round out our top 6. I doubt Blues take Eller back though....

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can we play RW ? Because we already have Gomez-PLekanec-Desharnais

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These Oshie / Backes / EJ to Montreal threads really should stop.

At the end of the day, we'll all conclude that the Blues wouldn't deal him for those quantity offers and the Habs wouldn't pay what we require.

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02-16-2011, 05:14 PM
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I'd rather not give all that up for Backes. Also, he's not a "bonafide star". Far from it.
Exactly he isn't a bonafide star but he just resigned with STL for I believe 5 year, he's just the perfect missing piece for this team and I would overpay for him any day over the likes of Spezza.

and yes he plays RW.

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02-16-2011, 05:16 PM
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The Blues have ZERO interest in trading Backes, Oshie, Perron, Johnson, Pietrangelo, Berglund. To a lesser extend Steen and McDonald.

If the Blues make any deas including any of the players above it will be for a young superstar player.

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02-16-2011, 05:21 PM
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The Blues have ZERO interest in trading Backes, Oshie, Perron, Johnson, Pietrangelo, Berglund. To a lesser extend Steen and McDonald.

If the Blues make any deas including any of the players above it will be for a young superstar player.
Why would anyone trade Backes for a young superstar, he isn't young himself nor is he a superstar, calm down, no one is gonna give you Doughty, Stamkos or even Evander Kane for a Backes here.

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Exactly he isn't a bonafide star but he just resigned with STL for I believe 5 year, he's just the perfect missing piece for this team and I would overpay for him any day over the likes of Spezza.

and yes he plays RW.
He's been a centerman for a couple years now, but he certainly can and has played right wing.

And you don't consider Backes young?

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02-16-2011, 05:42 PM
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He's been a centerman for a couple years now, but he certainly can and has played right wing.

And you don't consider Backes young?
young is 21-24

he isn't old but he isn't young

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So our 2 of our top prospects and our 1st? yeeeah no

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Three first rounders essentially for David Backes, a career high 54 point man? I would love if the Habs got ***** like this.

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Why would anyone trade Backes for a young superstar, he isn't young himself nor is he a superstar, calm down, no one is gonna give you Doughty, Stamkos or even Evander Kane for a Backes here.
Nobody said that. He way saying the Blues only trade Backes is if its part of a deal for a young superstar. Youd have to have less than 1/2 a brain to think Backes could get you Stamkos.

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From MTL POV, I would do it. Backes is big, he fights, he scores, he hits he can do everything. Thats the exact type of guy we need to round out our top 6. I doubt Blues take Eller back though....
Why wouldnt they want Eller back, they really didnt want to give him.

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These Oshie / Backes / EJ to Montreal threads really should stop.

At the end of the day, we'll all conclude that the Blues wouldn't deal him for those quantity offers and the Habs wouldn't pay what we require.
I agree, but the offer from the OP wasn't a quantity offer...

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Nobody said that. He way saying the Blues only trade Backes is if its part of a deal for a young superstar. Youd have to have less than 1/2 a brain to think Backes could get you Stamkos.



Why wouldnt they want Eller back, they really didnt want to give him.


youd have to have less than half

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This return could bring in a bonafied star, would STL be willing to give Backes away for this return assuming they give up on the playoffs at deadline day?
To make this deal, you're going to have to assume they plan on giving up on the playoffs for the next half-decade at deadline day, because that's a realistic timetable for Leblanc having a significant impact at the NHL level. The Blues aren't going to be sellers this year, or likely any year for the better part of the next ten.

I think we can all agree that the value is way out of whack (MTL gives too much), and there's going to be a pretty unanimous opinion from anyone following the Blues that the organization would never consider it.

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I agree, but the offer from the OP wasn't a quantity offer...
Agreed, but it also wasn't an offer that makes the Blues a better team this year, or next year, or the year after that.

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to MTL
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to STL
2011 1st pick
Eller
Leblanc

This return could bring in a bonafied star, would STL be willing to give Backes away for this return assuming they give up on the playoffs at deadline day?

This is an overpayment for Backes..as much as I love his play. So I doubt MON would make this offer.

The Blues are trying to move from rebuild mode to competitive, this trade makes them take a big step backward. No go from that standpoint either.

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02-16-2011, 06:26 PM
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to MTL
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Eller
Leblanc

This return could bring in a bonafied star, would STL be willing to give Backes away for this return assuming they give up on the playoffs at deadline day?
No chance that the Habs would give up that much for Backes.
Backes is definately not worth that much.
If that is what it takes to get Backes i say keep him.
You sure your a Habs fan?

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02-16-2011, 06:27 PM
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to MTL
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This return could bring in a bonafied star, would STL be willing to give Backes away for this return assuming they give up on the playoffs at deadline day?
You just overpaid for Backes. I would do this deal.

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I agree, but the offer from the OP wasn't a quantity offer...
No, it was more like a big overpayment by the Habs.

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02-16-2011, 06:44 PM
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LOVE this package, but no way the Blues trade Backes. Man I really wish there was a way to get Eller back, I have no clue what the Habs are doing with him, is he still playing on the 4th line?

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LOVE this package, but no way the Blues trade Backes. Man I really wish there was a way to get Eller back, I have no clue what the Habs are doing with him, is he still playing on the 4th line?
He was playing 2nd line wing while Cammalerri was out. Now hes being a healthy scratch. All the habs fans know he should be playing first line minutes in Hamilton but our Management can be stubborn. I bet he gets sent down once Cammy is back. Eller was comming along mid way but since being shifted to the wing hes lost out there. Needs more work in the ahl for sure.

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Why would anyone trade Backes for a young superstar, he isn't young himself nor is he a superstar, calm down, no one is gonna give you Doughty, Stamkos or even Evander Kane for a Backes here.
No one's asking for Doughty or Stamkos, and I wouldn't trade Backes straight up for Evander Kane.

The value of MTL 1st/Eller/Leblanc for Backes is close to what the Blues would need, but the key to acquiring Backes from the Blues is for the trade partner to send back a player in return who will, or has the potential to, provide the same kind of intangibles -- grit and leadership, primarily -- that Backes does.

Eller might be able to become a similar kind of player to Backes, and I'd like to have him back... but I'd much rather trade someone besides Backes for that package from Montreal.

How about Brewer and Boyes for that package?

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