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02-17-2011, 06:16 AM
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Kelly May not play tonight

According to the sports Hub 98.5
Kelly is having Visa issues..

Just thought I would let you know

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02-17-2011, 06:30 AM
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I told folks on here 2 days ago he was having visa problems and would not be at practice and may miss the trip over it.The usual know it alls attacked me,I bet they feel pretty stupid now.

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I told folks on here 2 days ago he was having visa problems and would not be at practice and may miss the trip over it.The usual know it alls attacked me,I bet they feel pretty stupid now.
I feel like this is going to be a recurring theme for players crossing the border. Forsberg's return was delayed a few days as well due to immigration issues.

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I guess I'm confused. How does someone who has been crossing the border all year have visa issues? (serious question) Is it because he has changed "companies" ?


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Kind of sucks but far from an isolated incident with Visa`s.

The Isles are playing much better but Kelly potentially not in the lineup is no excuse for anything tonight.

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I guess I'm confused. How does someone who has been crosing the border all yer have visa issues? (serious question) Is it because he has changed "companies" ?
I think so? Not 100% sure either, maybe because now his employer is a US based company?

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I guess I'm confused. How does someone who has been crosing the border all year have visa issues? (serious question) Is it because he has changed "companies" ?

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At least he'll play the Ottawa game for sure. I mean he lives there!

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Any word if the 2nd rd draft pick suits up for Ottawa Friday night?

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Any word if the 2nd rd draft pick suits up for Ottawa Friday night?
It will be a cardboard cutout at the end of the bench of some kid with a blacked out face holding a Sen's jersey..........he/it will still get more minutes than Tyler.

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I just don't get it. Does Ottawa not come to the main land occastionally?

Use American Express next time.

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I guess I'm confused. How does someone who has been crossing the border all year have visa issues? (serious question) Is it because he has changed "companies" ?
I am assuming it's because his cheques are now signed by a US employer and he is a Canadian citizen. Just my opinion

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This seems really strange as well. I am guessing it has to do with now an American company is employing him while he is working in the States. You would think that the NHL is a big enough entity that this should be a flip of a switch. Its not like he is defecting from cold war Soviet Union or something.

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This seems really strange as well. I am guessing it has to do with now an American company is employing him while he is working in the States. You would think that the NHL is a big enough entity that this should be a flip of a switch. Its not like he is defecting from cold war Soviet Union or something.
a fine example of bureaucracy at work. yes lets waste tax payer dollars hassling an nhl player over his visa between canada and the US i'm sure hes a huge threat to national security. a situation where common sense should be applicable but to hell with common sense!

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a fine example of bureaucracy at work. yes lets waste tax payer dollars hassling an nhl player over his visa between canada and the US i'm sure hes a huge threat to national security. a situation where common sense should be applicable but to hell with common sense!
Agreed, but as soon as they did that there would be an outcry about special treatment for pro athletes, much the way many in Canada went nuts when it was discovered the Calgary Flames got front of the line service when the flu shots were being rationed out in 09.

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nope........visa problems as well

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I am not an expert on this, by any means, but when Forsberg was having paperwork issues they said something like "Forsberg can't play because he doesn't have proper paperwork to enter the U.S. as an employee rather than a visitor"

When Boston goes to Montreal, Ottawa, Edmonton, or even Czech Republic, etc, they were there for a short period of time. They were visitors to the Czech Republic, and they "visit" each Canadian arena just for a few hours, so only a passport is needed.

But Kelly, has to change his country for employment. That means he actually works here. (Obviously) He's not just coming in over night. He'll be staying somewhere, he'll be practicing here a few days a week, but it also means his paychecks are now Boston, US and not Ottawa, ON, Canada.

It does change a lot I would think. Taxes...etc.

Like I said, I don't know for sure but if I had to venture a guess, that would be why. Because he is staying here long term, carrying out the abundance of his work load here, and his checks are being signed from here.

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Probalby an angry Sens fan at the border holding it all up lol.

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Agreed, but as soon as they did that there would be an outcry about special treatment for pro athletes, much the way many in Canada went nuts when it was discovered the Calgary Flames got front of the line service when the flu shots were being rationed out in 09.
two very different situations. the flames getting front of the line service is an issue. streamlining a process that is in place as a national security measure so that obvious non threats can get through without wasting time and money is simply common sense.

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two very different situations. the flames getting front of the line service is an issue. streamlining a process that is in place as a national security measure so that obvious non threats can get through without wasting time and money is simply common sense.
Then tell that to the misinformed who are trying to take a simple job in upstate NY to feed the family back in rural Ontario, but have to jump ropes to do it. Read up on the Flames situation and see their side of things which makes perfect sense (as does streamlining Kelly) but public outcry of the misinformed made it national news.

Yes FFIEY I am aware they are two different situations, however as I originally stated the end result would be the same when someone complained

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I am not an expert on this, by any means, but when Forsberg was having paperwork issues they said something like "Forsberg can't play because he doesn't have proper paperwork to enter the U.S. as an employee rather than a visitor"

When Boston goes to Montreal, Ottawa, Edmonton, or even Czech Republic, etc, they were there for a short period of time. They were visitors to the Czech Republic, and they "visit" each Canadian arena just for a few hours, so only a passport is needed.

But Kelly, has to change his country for employment. That means he actually works here. (Obviously) He's not just coming in over night. He'll be staying somewhere, he'll be practicing here a few days a week, but it also means his paychecks are now Boston, US and not Ottawa, ON, Canada.

It does change a lot I would think. Taxes...etc.

Like I said, I don't know for sure but if I had to venture a guess, that would be why. Because he is staying here long term, carrying out the abundance of his work load here, and his checks are being signed from here.
Yes, you're essentially correct. Someone with "special skills," i.e. a professional athlete, has to acquire a specific visa to work/live in the U.S. It has nothing to do with the NHL; it's to do with the U.S. government.

(My husband's an immigrant who came to the U.S. on a similar visa, so we went through this.)

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Yes, you're essentially correct. Someone with "special skills," i.e. a professional athlete, has to acquire a specific visa to work/live in the U.S. It has nothing to do with the NHL; it's to do with the U.S. government.

(My husband's an immigrant who came to the U.S. on a similar visa, so we went through this.)
This correct. In order to live/work in the USA without permanent residency, you need a specific type of visa. In general, the "specialized skills visa" is an H1-B (more white collar professions, a Bachelor's Degree is required), but there is a specific category for entertainers/athletes which I believe is a P visa.

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This is the same state department that warned TopGear not to be funny because they only had a documentary visa.

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