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03-01-2011, 12:21 PM
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The Hockey News Future Watch 2011 (Habs rankings)

Was mailed to subscribers yesterday, and is on sale in stores on March 14th.

Remember, age doesn't matter when it comes to Future Watch. As long as the player isn't considered an NHL regular at the time of printing, they're considered a prospect for Future Watch. This is why sometimes you'll see a player who is 24yo or 25yo on a teams list.

THN Future Watch 2011 Habs list:

1. Louis Leblanc (27)
2. Jarred Tinordi (70)
3. Danny Kristo
4. Alexander Avtsin
5. Michael Bournival
6. Ryan White
7. Aaron Palushaj
8. Joonas Nattinen
9. Mark MacMillan
10. Brendan Gallagher


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Looks good to me aside from Palushaj. In the top ten yes but not top 5 IMO I put Brendan Gallagher in his spot or Bournival.

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Looks good to me aside from Palushaj. In the top ten yes but not top 5 IMO I put Brendan Gallagher in his spot or Bournival.
Anyone else see Gallagher as the next Theo Fleury?

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Anyone else see Gallagher as the next Theo Fleury?
Won't make the obvious joke but no. Maybe a Fleury-extra-lite. I think he'll be a mini-Gionta.

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Won't make the obvious joke but no. Maybe a Fleury-extra-lite. I think he'll be a mini-Gionta.
But unlike Gionta, he actually hits and fights. Has a chip on his shoulder, like Fleury.

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But unlike Gionta, he actually hits and fights. Has a chip on his shoulder, like Fleury.
Gionta doesn't hit?

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But unlike Gionta, he actually hits and fights. Has a chip on his shoulder, like Fleury.
Gionta hits. You just don't see it because of the camera angle making him disappear into the mass of the other player.

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But unlike Gionta, he actually hits and fights. Has a chip on his shoulder, like Fleury.
If he can turn into an agitator in the NHL that'd be good, doubt he can still fight or hit in the NHL.

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Gionta's feisty...as in he battles for pucks, and battles for space in front of the net, but he's not laying anybody out.

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My top 10:

1-LeBlanc
2-Tinordi
3-Kristo
4-Palushaj
5-Gallagher
6-Avtsin
7-Bournival
8-Bennett
9-Nash
10-Nattinen
HM-White/Pateryn/Conboy/MacMillan/Engqvist




The list looks weaker than last year at the top, but Subban Weber Pacioretty Desharnais Eller are all basically rookies and a big part of the next 10 years.

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Gionta's feisty...as in he battles for pucks, and battles for space in front of the net, but he's not laying anybody out.
Hitting is not just about laying people out.

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If he can turn into an agitator in the NHL that'd be good, doubt he can still fight or hit in the NHL.
Obviously he wouldn't be fighting Parros or Chara, but he'd take on the likes of Brad Marchand and Steve Downie

Anyways, is he too good to return to the Giants next year. He's totally dominating both the league and his team this season. 87 points in 61 games (43 goals) while the next guy on his team has 45 points. Do you see him on the Bulldogs next year?

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Obviously he wouldn't be fighting Parros or Chara, but he'd take on the likes of Brad Marchand and Steve Downie

Anyways, is he too good to return to the Giants next year. He's totally dominating both the league and his team this season. 87 points in 61 games (43 goals) while the next guy on his team has 45 points. Do you see him on the Bulldogs next year?
He can't play AHL next year as he will be 19.

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Does anyone know if Kari Ramo (sp?) is considered a prospect?
And if so,where do you think he'd rank on our list ?
Also, was this name a factor in aquireing him ?

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Am I the only one thinking Tinordi hasn't progressed very much this season?

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Am I the only one thinking Tinordi hasn't progressed very much this season?
No you're not. He has had a very tough time in the OHL this year.

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Am I the only one thinking Tinordi hasn't progressed very much this season?
Although I have heard a lot of that, I doubt it's as bad as the rumours that are out there right now.

But thank goodness he went to the OHL. If he is still adjusting to this pace now, IMAGINE how far he'd be behind playing probably 12-15 minutes a game for 35 games at NDU?

He can play two more years with the Hunters and that will be good for his development.

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No you're not. He has had a very tough time in the OHL this year.
Give him some time, he might be a late bloomer. Once he grows into his body and learns to play with a chip on his shoulder, Tinordi will be a great player. I feel that he has the technical aspect of it, but he needs to learn how to rely on his instincts. Now I haven't seen him a whole lot, but from what I hear, he tries to play by the book and he doesn't experiment with some things. (I might not make sense to other people, but it's clear in my mind!) Think of it as someone who studies for an exam by only learning everything word by word and not understand. Once he tries to understand and maybe formulate answers in his own words, he'll be better off. Same with Tinordi, but with hockey.

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Am I the only one thinking Tinordi hasn't progressed very much this season?
Progress isn't always just when things go well...the development of most players is often littered with success AND failure. Look at Max Pacioretty for example.

Compare him today, to where he was at this point last year...many here wondered if he'd ever make it back up.

Sometimes the developmental curve is longer for certain players, than it is for others.

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Does anyone know if Kari Ramo (sp?) is considered a prospect?
And if so,where do you think he'd rank on our list ?
Also, was this name a factor in aquireing him ?
Ramo is 24, I would consider him a prospect and have him in our top 10. Outside of Leblanc our top 10 is weak, but we have a number of recent grads. Time to draft another Pacioretty in first round of this draft and find another Plekanec in late rounds.

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Does anyone know if Kari Ramo (sp?) is considered a prospect?
And if so,where do you think he'd rank on our list ?
Also, was this name a factor in aquireing him ?
He was 4th on TB's list last year...I assume he would...forgot about him. He would probably be a top 5 guy given his performance this year.

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Am I the only one thinking Tinordi hasn't progressed very much this season?
He's actually progressed a lot. He struggled the first 20-25 games but has been playing much better since midseason...picking up points, more fights and big hits.

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Progress isn't always just when things go well...the development of most players is often littered with success AND failure. Look at Max Pacioretty for example.

Compare him today, to where he was at this point last year...many here wondered if he'd ever make it back up.

Sometimes the developmental curve is longer for certain players, than it is for others.
Yeah and Tinordi has made pretty big strides after a slow start.

Pacioretty I think it was a case of rushing him to the NHL moreso than slower than usual development. Subban was held back in the AHL a full year and had an easier adjustment to the NHL.

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Ramo is 24, I would consider him a prospect and have him in our top 10. Outside of Leblanc our top 10 is weak, but we have a number of recent grads. Time to draft another Pacioretty in first round of this draft and find another Plekanec in late rounds.
The top 3-4 of our top 10 is a bit weaker than last year because a lot of our high end guys graduated to the NHL(Subban Pacioretty Weber plus Desharnais). Kristo LeBlanc and Tinordi is not a bad top 3.

We have guys with a lot of upside but they are 2-4 years away(Tinordi LeBlanc Gallagher Bournival Bennett Kristo(who is probably the closest) Nash Avtsin MacMillan).

If we were 100% sure that Yemelin and Ramo would play on the Habs next year I think they both jump in the top 5.

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Anyone else see Gallagher as the next Theo Fleury?
Fleury was a lot faster and a lot nastier. Gallagher will go in the dirty areas, but Fleury actually picked fights and hacked at defencemen that were a lot bigger than him. But I understand what you are trying to say.

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