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souray/waivers/trade ?? UPDATE: Cleared Re-entry 02/21/11

View Poll Results: Will souray still be oiler property Monday night
Yes 99 55.00%
No---traded 11 6.11%
No--Claimed on waivers 70 38.89%
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02-22-2011, 09:56 AM
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If Sheldon was smart, he would make a very public announcement saying the following:
- He apologizes to the Oiler organization and fan base
- He acted like a spoiled brat and blamed everyone else for his own problems
- He only realized this after playing the year with Hershey and being around people who just love the game
- He realizes how lucky he was to play in the NHL for so many years
- He realizes how much he loves the game and hopes to one day have an opportunity to play in the NHL again, and would hope to get an invite to try out for Oilers for the same reasons he signed there as a UFA (but he probably should not mention the part about getting a crazy contract that he could not get anywhere else), but understands that he may have burned his bridges
- If he does get to play again, he will donate $30K for every goal he scores to the Oilers foundation

This would at least open the door for Tambellini to invite him to camp without having egg all over his face. If Shelly was invited to camp, he would either suck, or not. If he did, no harm, he gets sent down. If he does not, he might actually help the team and be valuable next trade deadline. I would imagine, he would be on his best behaviour when/if he returned.

But he is probably too much of a bozo to do the smart thing.

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02-22-2011, 10:26 AM
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LOL @ the people still voting in the poll after he's already cleared re-entry waivers... way to go out on a limb!!

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Krause basically chased Grant out of town, and when Orlando knocked Chicago out of the playoffs in 1995, Orlando hoisted Horace Grant up on their shoulders as he loudly cheered in the United Center in front of the disgruntled fans.




I think, at this stage, it is far too risky. I was never a fan of Souray being on the team to begin with after he decided to **** on the organization, and I think whatever benefit he might bring to the team (a team that is so far out of playoff contention that getting more wins is irrelevant) is overshadowed by the potential for him contributing to a giant media circus about his return to the club.

At this point the only people really keeping it alive are fans that hate the management. If he comes back it, the chances of it moving to the forefront becomes much more likely in my opinion
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Pretty much how feel.

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The title of that Article is Pure Gold!

I am a little suprised however that Joey wasn't fired too. But I did hear from a friend, who's cousin, talked to a janitor at rexal, who new someone higher up in the organization, that said

"With the current losing streak, Joey is treading on thin water; Kevin think's he is one of the reason players from around the league don't want to come here. You must remember Hossa and Heatly. Both apparently were a little creeped out by Joey ... the straw the broke the camels back ... so to speak, in the decision not to sign with Edmonton."
Aha! I suspected this all along. Joey Moss is the prime reason this organization has suffered all these years, made dumb decisions and why everyone avoids this place like the plague. How's the whiskey?

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02-22-2011, 10:35 AM
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Aha! I suspected this all along. Joey Moss is the prime reason this organization has suffered all these years, made dumb decisions and why everyone avoids this place like the plague. How's the whiskey?
The breakfast bottle is usually the good one. The lunch and afternoon bottles take a bit more effort to get down.

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The more I hear about Burke and how the Leafs are not done trading it leaves me scratching my head. Why wouldn't Burke take a flyer on Souray? This is as low risk as it gets and the potential reward could make Burke look brilliant in Leaf nation. If it doesn't pan out the actual dollars are not to bad and the cap hit can easily be absorbed by the Leafs for next season.

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You have trouble comprehending the english langauge?

If you have to go back decades to find comparables it confirms "hardpressed"

Oh look, the Oilers traded Gretz, Mess, Anderson, Coffey Fuhr, etc. Oh Heartbreak., Worst ever, what to do, what to do, I'll never watch this team again..


Oh well, thats it for the timemachine, no reason for that silliness.

But if you really want to go there historically,(and you shouldn't want to) how many worse demantlings of a dynasty exist in the annals of pro sports.

History is sometimes not fun.
OK, here's one. The New York Islanders.

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02-22-2011, 01:49 PM
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OK, here's one. The New York Islanders.
Think I gotta agree. Have the Islanders ever gotten past the first round since heir last Stanley cup win?

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Think I gotta agree. Have the Islanders ever gotten past the first round since heir last Stanley cup win?
'93 and the infamous Dale Hunter cheapshot on Turgeon springs to mind.

Edit: not to disprove the point, though.

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'93 and the infamous Dale Hunter cheapshot on Turgeon springs to mind.

Edit: not to disprove the point, though.
I was sure they had too, but I knew it was few and far between.

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quick little article about millionaires in the AHL

check it out.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...332602230.html

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quick little article about millionaires in the AHL

check it out.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...332602230.html
Very interesting article and probably a topic that deserves its own thread.

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If Sheldon was smart, he would make a very public announcement saying the following:
- He apologizes to the Oiler organization and fan base
- He acted like a spoiled brat and blamed everyone else for his own problems
- He only realized this after playing the year with Hershey and being around people who just love the game
- He realizes how lucky he was to play in the NHL for so many years
- He realizes how much he loves the game and hopes to one day have an opportunity to play in the NHL again, and would hope to get an invite to try out for Oilers for the same reasons he signed there as a UFA (but he probably should not mention the part about getting a crazy contract that he could not get anywhere else), but understands that he may have burned his bridges
- If he does get to play again, he will donate $30K for every goal he scores to the Oilers foundation

This would at least open the door for Tambellini to invite him to camp without having egg all over his face. If Shelly was invited to camp, he would either suck, or not. If he did, no harm, he gets sent down. If he does not, he might actually help the team and be valuable next trade deadline. I would imagine, he would be on his best behaviour when/if he returned.

But he is probably too much of a bozo to do the smart thing.
Well said

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teams have always stashed players in the minors they did not want

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Very interesting article and probably a topic that deserves its own thread.
Great discussion.

"The Board,"

"where players place small sums of money for the scorer of the game's game-winning goal to collect. Most nights, the board can be $100 or so. No longer. Redden has placed iPads on the board and Commodore has put up as much as $1,000".

Personal fav from my playing days. Hearing those numbers and the prize at stake is incredible. Good for the team if you think about it. Those prize's are a serious incentive. It's almost a privilege to play on a team with that player as your teammate in the minors. Paying for everything, prizes etc. Well written article.

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teams have always stashed players in the minors they did not want
Now it's deemed as a sort of circumvental practice because they do it to make cap space as opposed to simply stashing the player for obvious bad playing reasons. You don't think Redden would be in the show if it weren't for his "cap hit"?

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Now it's deemed as a sort of circumvental practice because they do it to make cap space as opposed to simply stashing the player for obvious bad playing reasons. You don't think Redden would be in the show if it weren't for his "cap hit"?
he was awful the last time he played in the NHL.

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Great discussion.

"The Board,"

"where players place small sums of money for the scorer of the game's game-winning goal to collect. Most nights, the board can be $100 or so. No longer. Redden has placed iPads on the board and Commodore has put up as much as $1,000".

Personal fav from my playing days. Hearing those numbers and the prize at stake is incredible. Good for the team if you think about it. Those prize's are a serious incentive. It's almost a privilege to play on a team with that player as your teammate in the minors. Paying for everything, prizes etc. Well written article.
I wonder what Souray puts on the board - signed portraits of himself perhaps?

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Former New York Rangers defenseman Wade Redden, a two-time All-Star, is taking eight hour bus rides as a member of the Connecticut Whale. At a salary of $6.5 million, he earns the AHL's minimum salary of $37,500 in just over one period of play.
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Great discussion.

"The Board,"

"where players place small sums of money for the scorer of the game's game-winning goal to collect. Most nights, the board can be $100 or so. No longer. Redden has placed iPads on the board and Commodore has put up as much as $1,000".

Personal fav from my playing days. Hearing those numbers and the prize at stake is incredible. Good for the team if you think about it. Those prize's are a serious incentive. It's almost a privilege to play on a team with that player as your teammate in the minors. Paying for everything, prizes etc. Well written article.
You sound like a kid around Christmas.

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You sound like a kid around Christmas.
he was quoting the article...

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he was quoting the article...
Actually I don't think he was at all, he said personal fav.

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yep - apparently I can't comprehend properly lol

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