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View Poll Results: Will souray still be oiler property Monday night
Yes 99 55.00%
No---traded 11 6.11%
No--Claimed on waivers 70 38.89%
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02-19-2011, 11:44 AM
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paying souray 2+ million to play for the opposition and take a cap hit doesn't make much sense.

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Watch the Islanders claim Souray and he refuses to report. haha

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maybe we are just really desperate for d-men with the roster-clearing wave of trades we are about to incur and might actually need souray for the warm body? that would be nice because it would indicate that we would be receiving some sort of return. unfortunately, it probably isn't the case.
Hah yeah I was kind of hoping that too. I looked to see if he was anywhere near Atlanta right now.

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McKenzie is saying a claim has not been pre-arranged and that the Oilers are hoping someone will pick him up since blueliners seem to be a "hot commodity" right now.


You know, I consider myself patient with Oiler management but why the hell would they not try and get an asset for him? If defense is such a hot commodity, try and get an asset for him.

I mean, didn't Tambellini say that he did want to lose him for nothing?

I really don't know if this mngt group is coming or going. Souray was buried in Hershey. Why are they in a rush to get rid of his cap space? Big deadline deal for a playoff push?

Please....

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yeah that's it. You whine alot.
Beat me to it....

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He cleared waivers already, you think a team would give up an asset for him? Maybe a 7th rounder.
Cap for Cap I think we could get something for him. A 7th is better then nothing. Another expiring crap contract is something else I'd look into.

Last summer we had something with St. Louis that fell through because they didn't want the extra year.

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It's obvious that he's just on re-entry so he could make the autograph session tomorrow pending that no other team picks him up.

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Let's get to the brass tax here! He has til 12:00est Sunday to be claimed right? I have $500 in jerseys riding on him not playing in the bigs this year.

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You know, I consider myself patient with Oiler management but why the hell would they not try and get an asset for him? If defense is such a hot commodity, try and get an asset for him.

I mean, didn't Tambellini say that he did want to lose him for nothing?

I really don't know if this mngt group is coming or going. Souray was buried in Hershey. Why are they in a rush to get rid of his cap space? Big deadline deal for a playoff push?

Please....
Because Souray is not even an NHL defenseman anymore. Even at 2.7M he is about 1.5M overpaid.

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Cap for Cap I think we could get something for him. A 7th is better then nothing. Another expiring crap contract is something else I'd look into.

Last summer we had something with St. Louis that fell through because they didn't want the extra year.
But half the cap hit is better then the buyout.

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Also, if he clears unclaimed, then he can be dealt to a team who would be willing to take him if we take salary back, which opens up options for Tambo before next Friday's deadline.

No harm in recalling him. If he's not claimed or dealt in the next week, then he just goes back down and it's status quo.

I agree with this, no harm in opening up options at this point. But really, it could be that someone did indeed express interest in him, or Tambo is playing the odds.

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Watch the Islanders claim Souray and he refuses to report. haha
If they then suspend him I wonder if we'd be off the hook for our end of his contract...

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paying souray 2+ million to play for the opposition and take a cap hit doesn't make much sense.
Especially when you could have done this in the beginning of the season and saved more money. Last summer, there was an advantage in holding on to Souray until the next off season in case he had a solid season and a team was willing to trade for him when he only had one year left on his contract, with the downside being they had to pay his full salary this year. Conversely, they could have put him on re-entry at that time to save half his salary, with the downside being they would have been stuck with half his salary/cap hit in 2011/2012. Instead, they pay his full salary until now, and are stuck with half his salary/cap hit next year. Worst of both worlds. How stupid is this?

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This.

Also, if he clears unclaimed, then he can be dealt to a team who would be willing to take him if we take salary back, which opens up options for Tambo before next Friday's deadline.

No harm in recalling him. If he's not claimed or dealt in the next week, then he just goes back down and it's status quo.
^^ This...Makes sense if you look at it this way - nothing to lose, and we'd actually save money if he gets claimed rather than buying him out from what i see.

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Cap for Cap I think we could get something for him. A 7th is better then nothing. Another expiring crap contract is something else I'd look into.

Last summer we had something with St. Louis that fell through because they didn't want the extra year.
St. Louis did just move Johnson and Brewer. Souray next year as a stopgap player for 2.25M in real salary would likely work for St. Louis.

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Katz finally got tired of paying someone not to play here. He's cashed in his half off coupon.

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whatever with this situation. dont care.
if they pay him half it seems more of an ownership thing to get some money off the leech fund. if it has an asset/trade involved... great.
if it doesnt work at all, and its just them playing the odds - even more hilarious during a hilarious season.

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My guess is someone is getting desperate enough to give him a chance. The cap hit at this point would be pretty small. If it fails, I imagine they can put him back on waivers in the summer and not have his salary affect the cap for next year. Philly or Vancouver anyone? Vancouver could use some help on the blueline right now and it never hurts to have a veteran able to step in come playoff time.
If he signs in Vancouver, its fitting given he'll be injured before the playoffs, just like their Glass D

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Katz finally got tired of paying someone not to play here. He's cashed in his half off coupon.
whats hilarious is all the whiny fans here seemed fine with him "rotting in the minors" as the owner (and in turn fans and consumers) paid him like a king so they could be "vengeful".

"grrrr Souray bad! you stay in minors!"
yeah im making over 4 million from you dongs
"yeah but you suck! and i pay you to suck!"

geniuses

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Time to be light-hearted...

I think it's obvious whats happening here. We're not losing well enough so we brought in a specialist.

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It's obvious that he's just on re-entry so he could make the autograph session tomorrow pending that no other team picks him up.
They'd pair him with Hall to shrink his line up so people don't have to wait that long for a Hall autograph.

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Also, if he clears unclaimed, then he can be dealt to a team who would be willing to take him if we take salary back, which opens up options for Tambo before next Friday's deadline.

No harm in recalling him. If he's not claimed or dealt in the next week, then he just goes back down and it's status quo.
There is harm in recalling him. They could have traded him the next summer without being stuck with half his salary/cap hit. Also, what are the odds that some team will be unwilling to take on half his salary, but will be willing to trade for his full salary? If they were going to try a recall, why not do so earlier in the year when you could have saved paying his full salary and cut half your losses at that point? This move makes no sense. Either they are stupid for not waiting until the summer, or stupid for not making this move earlier. There is no other way to look at it.

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You know, I consider myself patient with Oiler management but why the hell would they not try and get an asset for him? If defense is such a hot commodity, try and get an asset for him.

I mean, didn't Tambellini say that he did want to lose him for nothing?

I really don't know if this mngt group is coming or going. Souray was buried in Hershey. Why are they in a rush to get rid of his cap space? Big deadline deal for a playoff push?

Please....
We don't know that this isn't the case. Souray would have to clear re-entry before he can be traded, and if he goes unclaimed, Tambellini will surely try to deal him before putting him back in Hershey. But any "asset" we get back for him will likely include lots of salary and be damaged goods as well.

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I think Montreal may bite. Their blue line has been decimated and they need a shot from the point on the PP.

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The question is....if he clears does he play for the Oilers? I doubt it.

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