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02-19-2011, 11:40 AM
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Who will fill the gap between Weber and Tinordi?

The injuries in the CH have emptied the Bulldogs.

If we don't really trade a Dman and that Tinordi (who seems to develop well) might take another 2-3 years to reach the NHL, who else within the organization could we count on over the next 2 years as a Dman?

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Festerling, Henry, Carle, Nash

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02-19-2011, 12:00 PM
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Festerling, Henry, Carle, Nash
Not the first two... certainly Nash... maybe Carle, but I think he's out of options next year...

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Festerling and Nash, in my opinion.

Nash is playing well, and when he gets used to the speed of the NHL, he'll be that much better. Festerling on the other hand has already played in the NHL before, with the Ducks. In 2008-09, he was logging about 17 minutes of time, playing with Scott Niedermayer and was doing quite well. So I'd have no problem with him getting a try with the Habs.

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02-19-2011, 12:09 PM
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People say Tinordi needs another year in junior league.

Festerling
Henry - not the skating abilities
Carle - Call back of Mara tells that Carle is over with CH
Nash

According to your comments, Nash. Maybe Festerling...

2 years with these2 players?

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Players develop too, you never know, there might be one of those odd wild-card players that come out of nowhere for this team too.

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02-19-2011, 12:19 PM
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Other names over the next 2 years :

Stejskal
Pateryn
Yemelin
Bennett

Maybe one of these 4 could break through

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02-19-2011, 12:21 PM
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Cameron Cepek.

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Pateryn will play with the Bulldogs next year. Book it.

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02-19-2011, 12:30 PM
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Pateryn will play with the Bulldogs next year. Book it.
How do you know that?

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02-19-2011, 12:32 PM
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Recap

I'm collecting your comments.
It looks like this now:


2011-2012
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Nash
Festerling
Henry - AHL forever
Carle - OUT

2012-2013
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Stejskal
Pateryn
Yemelin
Bennett
Cepek

2013-2014
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Tinordi

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Cepek is no longer in the organization

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What do you guys think of Klubertanz (sp?) ?

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What do you guys think of Klubertanz (sp?) ?
Well they had this to say about him on www.eliteprospects.com:

"Spelskicklig och allround tvåvägsback med bra "tryck" i tacklingarna. Är mycket användbar i såväl powerplay som boxplay. Kapabel skridskoåkare med bra puckbehandling. Riktigt bra på att transportera puck. Läser spelet bra. Bra teknik. Offensivt bättre än defensivt."

so.. is that good?

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02-19-2011, 03:30 PM
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He's the same age as Tinordi, but Morgan Ellis seems promising.

I hope the Habs can sign some promising undrafted prospects, Desharnais and Nash have worked out well so far. Does anyone know who some top undrafted dmen from the Q would be?

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If we don't really trade a Dman and that Tinordi (who seems to develop well) might take another 2-3 years to reach the NHL, who else within the organization could we count on over the next 2 years as a Dman?
Not so sure about that, Tinordi didn't make the long list for Team USA, and by most accounts he has been disappointing in London. I don't think you can count on 2-3 years (age 20-21) for him to reach the NHL. I just hope he's ready by 22 years old.

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The injuries in the CH have emptied the Bulldogs.

If we don't really trade a Dman and that Tinordi (who seems to develop well) might take another 2-3 years to reach the NHL, who else within the organization could we count on over the next 2 years as a Dman?


Pateryn Nash and maybe Stejksal. Yemelin would be nice to get over but I doubt he sees the AHL if he comes.

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02-19-2011, 03:36 PM
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I don't really understand if your want to know who will play for the dogs or who will try to crack the CH roster...

For the dogs, you can add Morgan Ellis who will knock at the door soon, some junior overager, and the dogs will sign at least one free agent.

Anyway with Weber, Subban, Georges the Habs will not need a solid prospect to join the big club. Add Spacek for next year, one or two of Markov, Hammer or Wiz.. a UFA or two signing.

I'm not worry for the D, a lot more with the offense... no really 1st line material in our affiliate... Avstyn ? Kristo, Leblanc ? They need to focus on these on next draft... they have a great depth and with Cammy, Gio, Pleks signed long-term and guys like Pacioretty, DD, Eller... they can take the risk on 1-2 risky pick (project)

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He's the same age as Tinordi, but Morgan Ellis seems promising.



Not so sure about that, Tinordi didn't make the long list for Team USA, and by most accounts he has been disappointing in London. I don't think you can count on 2-3 years (age 20-21) for him to reach the NHL. I just hope he's ready by 22 years old.
Tinordi had a slow start and had an adjustment period, but from what I heard he has stepped up his game since Christmas, getting more points, fights plus improving his +-. He's still a guy that will need another 3 years development. I don't see him being an NHL regular before 22 maybe 23. The main reason he didn't make the USA short list(he was on the long list) is that they are very deep on defense, just last draft they had 4-5 d-men go in the first 40 picks and guys like Merrill and Johns are more polished than Tinordi but may not have his "intimidating shutdown d-man" upside.

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I don't really understand if your want to know who will play for the dogs or who will try to crack the CH roster...

For the dogs, you can add Morgan Ellis who will knock at the door soon, some junior overager, and the dogs will sign at least one free agent.

Anyway with Weber, Subban, Georges the Habs will not need a solid prospect to join the big club. Add Spacek for next year, one or two of Markov, Hammer or Wiz.. a UFA or two signing.

I'm not worry for the D, a lot more with the offense... no really 1st line material in our affiliate... Avstyn ? Kristo, Leblanc ? They need to focus on these on next draft... they have a great depth and with Cammy, Gio, Pleks signed long-term and guys like Pacioretty, DD, Eller... they can take the risk on 1-2 risky pick (project)

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Pacioretty is our "1st line prospect". With Gio Cammy and Plekanec signed long term we have time to let Kristo LeBlanc Gallagher MacMillan Eller develop into top 6 guys.

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I'm not worry for the D, a lot more with the offense... no really 1st line material in our affiliate... Avstyn ? Kristo, Leblanc ? They need to focus on these on next draft... they have a great depth and with Cammy, Gio, Pleks signed long-term and guys like Pacioretty, DD, Eller... they can take the risk on 1-2 risky pick (project)
Brendan Gallagher looks pretty exciting...

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yeah forgot about him

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02-19-2011, 03:52 PM
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Gallagher is a forward not a D-man.

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We could have Ryan McDonagh right now... On top of that Scott Gomez wouldn't be on this team and freeing at the same time 8 millions on the salary cap...

This team would be so much better without this pathetic trade by uncle Gainey...

Sad...

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Tinordi had a slow start and had an adjustment period, but from what I heard he has stepped up his game since Christmas, getting more points, fights plus improving his +-.
Good, glad to hear it!

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He's still a guy that will need another 3 years development. I don't see him being an NHL regular before 22 maybe 23. The main reason he didn't make the USA short list(he was on the long list) is that they are very deep on defense, just last draft they had 4-5 d-men go in the first 40 picks and guys like Merrill and Johns are more polished than Tinordi but may not have his "intimidating shutdown d-man" upside.
You're right, I meant the short list (though it was a long short list). I'm still worried about Tinordi. I was hoping he would dominate in the OHL and play big minutes for Team USA. Shutdown defencemen still require good skills and instincts, hopefully he has what it takes.

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Gallagher is a forward not a D-man.
but people are refering to my post where I said i'm worried about offense more than defense

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02-20-2011, 08:30 AM
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Recap

I'm collecting your comments.
It looks like this now:


2011-2012
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Nash
Festerling
Henry - AHL forever
Carle - OUT

2012-2013
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Stejskal
Pateryn
Yemelin
Bennett
Cepek

2013-2014
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Tinordi
Klubertanz
Ellis


I am more worried about the defense than the offense. Over the last 3 years, the CH drafted 18 players. Only 3 Dmen.

Translation on Klubertanz: "Skilled Games and all-round two-way back to good "press" in tackling makers. Is very useful in both the power play as boxplay. Capable skater with good puck treatment. Really good at carrying the puck. Reads the game well. Good Technology. Offensively better than defensively."

What about Mac Bennett (D)?

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