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06-30-2004, 08:36 PM
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Ban Hitting?

Bobby Orr (knee)
Eric Lindros (head)
Saku Koivu (knee)
Mario Lemieux (back)
etc

There are many more players like them whose careers have been ruined by physical play. We'll never know how many points these players would have gotten had they not been injured. Too many great players never get to be the players they could have been because they get injured. If there was no hitting in the NHL these players would have likely been able to finish their careers in good health. Even Gretzky missed time due to injuries (not much) but that's still less points for him.

The Americans excuse that hockey is too violent would disappear and interest in the game in the USA, and maybe even Canada would improve. (Although for a while it would get worse in Canada, I think fans would come back).

I want to see talented players play the game, and i'm tired of what could have been rather than what is.

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06-30-2004, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Licentia
Bobby Orr (knee)
Eric Lindros (head)
Saku Koivu (knee)
Mario Lemieux (back)
etc

There are many more players like them whose careers have been ruined by physical play. We'll never know how many points these players would have gotten had they not been injured. Too many great players never get to be the players they could have been because they get injured. If there was no hitting in the NHL these players would have likely been able to finish their careers in good health. Even Gretzky missed time due to injuries (not much) but that's still less points for him.

The Americans excuse that hockey is too violent would disappear and interest in the game in the USA, and maybe even Canada would improve. (Although for a while it would get worse in Canada, I think fans would come back).

I want to see talented players play the game, and i'm tired of what could have been rather than what is.
Hitting is an integral part of the game, I couldn't imagine hockey without hitting. I could understand putting more severe penalties for players taking out other players knees or other intent to injure type penalties, but hockey without hitting would just be wrong...

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ban hitting ? for what? To see figure skating with a puck and a stick ??. No thank you

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Originally Posted by Licentia
Bobby Orr (knee)
Eric Lindros (head)
Saku Koivu (knee)
Mario Lemieux (back)
etc

There are many more players like them whose careers have been ruined by physical play. We'll never know how many points these players would have gotten had they not been injured. Too many great players never get to be the players they could have been because they get injured. If there was no hitting in the NHL these players would have likely been able to finish their careers in good health. Even Gretzky missed time due to injuries (not much) but that's still less points for him.

The Americans excuse that hockey is too violent would disappear and interest in the game in the USA, and maybe even Canada would improve. (Although for a while it would get worse in Canada, I think fans would come back).

I want to see talented players play the game, and i'm tired of what could have been rather than what is.
You take hitting and the other physical elements out of the game and you dont have hockey anymore. Plain and simple.

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06-30-2004, 08:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Licentia
Bobby Orr (knee)
Eric Lindros (head)
Saku Koivu (knee)
Mario Lemieux (back)
etc

There are many more players like them whose careers have been ruined by physical play. We'll never know how many points these players would have gotten had they not been injured. Too many great players never get to be the players they could have been because they get injured. If there was no hitting in the NHL these players would have likely been able to finish their careers in good health. Even Gretzky missed time due to injuries (not much) but that's still less points for him.

The Americans excuse that hockey is too violent would disappear and interest in the game in the USA, and maybe even Canada would improve. (Although for a while it would get worse in Canada, I think fans would come back).

I want to see talented players play the game, and i'm tired of what could have been rather than what is.
If hitting was banned I would be ashamed to call myself a hockey fan..... it is a part of the game...

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Originally Posted by Licentia
Bobby Orr (knee)
Eric Lindros (head)
Saku Koivu (knee)
Mario Lemieux (back)
etc

There are many more players like them whose careers have been ruined by physical play. We'll never know how many points these players would have gotten had they not been injured. Too many great players never get to be the players they could have been because they get injured. If there was no hitting in the NHL these players would have likely been able to finish their careers in good health. Even Gretzky missed time due to injuries (not much) but that's still less points for him.

The Americans excuse that hockey is too violent would disappear and interest in the game in the USA, and maybe even Canada would improve. (Although for a while it would get worse in Canada, I think fans would come back).

I want to see talented players play the game, and i'm tired of what could have been rather than what is.
No never, it's part of the game and it will I always be that way (I should hope). One thing they could possibly crack down on is fighting but i'd like to see that stay as well and it most likely will.

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06-30-2004, 08:57 PM
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i think this thread is all a joke played on us. i dont think anyone on this board would actually think of taking out such an integral part of the game.


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i think this thread is all a joke played on us. i dont think anyone on this board would actually think of taking out such an integral part of the game.
I don't think so. If it were a joke, this guy wouldn't go into all that detail to back it up.

This is just a case of a newbie trying to make an impact with one of his first posts cuz he has nothing better to say. Just an attempt at recognition.

I know I did the exact same thing when I first started posting here.


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and on topic, no it wont happen and this is most definately a prank.

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I agree. Let's eliminate hitting in hockey...Likewise the NFL.

On the other hand, croquet and tiddlywinks will become contact sports, effective immediately.

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If bodychecking was banned in hockey, I would burn my officiating gear and become a soccer hooligan.

(Incase you're wondering where the soccer hooligan part came from....I'm sure some of you know what happened at EURO 2004 today. )

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Reaction, not cause....

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No never, it's part of the game and it will I always be that way (I should hope). One thing they could possibly crack down on is fighting but i'd like to see that stay as well and it most likely will.
I think too many people focus on the act of fighting and say it should be banned, but I look at fighting as more of a reaction to something, rather than a cause of something. What I mean by that is that the NHL today has allowed agitators to play a much bigger role in the games to the detriment of the skilled player. These guys hack, whack, grab, pull, and stick their stars to the point of frustration, at which point the heavyweights have to go at it for some reason. In addition, the mentality of hitting has changed. Nick Kypreos said a statement during the playoffs that in the playoffs, you hit to take a guy out of the game, not out of the play. This mentality has to be eliminated right now. The point of body checking is as follows:

1) Wear down you opponent
2) Make the opposition move the puck before they want to, which could leave to a bad pass or turnoever.
3) Take the player out of the play to creat separation for yourself and thus an odd man advantage. This is the ultimate result of a body check.

Hitting and bodychecking are a vital part of the game. What players don't like is when players take a run at a teammate, as opposed to hitting a teammate. What that means is that if you're Modano and you're coming down the boards, you expect Scott Stevens to step into you. That's his job and the way the game should be played. What you don't want to see is the likes of the agitators coming half way across the ice to make a hit on a skilled player. That's taking a run at a guy and leads to much of the problems in the game. You take the hits that are there, but when you go out of your way to make a hit, that's when players take issue and fights result.

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07-01-2004, 01:52 PM
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Ban Hitting? How 'bout just ban skating and call it field hockey..

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Ban hitting and it wouldn't be Hockey anymore.

I'm in favor of perhaps banning hits to the head, but there needs to be checking in the game.

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I think too many people focus on the act of fighting and say it should be banned, but I look at fighting as more of a reaction to something, rather than a cause of something. What I mean by that is that the NHL today has allowed agitators to play a much bigger role in the games to the detriment of the skilled player. These guys hack, whack, grab, pull, and stick their stars to the point of frustration, at which point the heavyweights have to go at it for some reason. In addition, the mentality of hitting has changed. Nick Kypreos said a statement during the playoffs that in the playoffs, you hit to take a guy out of the game, not out of the play. This mentality has to be eliminated right now. The point of body checking is as follows:

1) Wear down you opponent
2) Make the opposition move the puck before they want to, which could leave to a bad pass or turnoever.
3) Take the player out of the play to creat separation for yourself and thus an odd man advantage. This is the ultimate result of a body check.

Hitting and bodychecking are a vital part of the game. What players don't like is when players take a run at a teammate, as opposed to hitting a teammate. What that means is that if you're Modano and you're coming down the boards, you expect Scott Stevens to step into you. That's his job and the way the game should be played. What you don't want to see is the likes of the agitators coming half way across the ice to make a hit on a skilled player. That's taking a run at a guy and leads to much of the problems in the game. You take the hits that are there, but when you go out of your way to make a hit, that's when players take issue and fights result.
Great post Street Hawk! 100% correct.

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I think too many people focus on the act of fighting and say it should be banned, but I look at fighting as more of a reaction to something, rather than a cause of something. What I mean by that is that the NHL today has allowed agitators to play a much bigger role in the games to the detriment of the skilled player. These guys hack, whack, grab, pull, and stick their stars to the point of frustration, at which point the heavyweights have to go at it for some reason. In addition, the mentality of hitting has changed. Nick Kypreos said a statement during the playoffs that in the playoffs, you hit to take a guy out of the game, not out of the play. This mentality has to be eliminated right now. The point of body checking is as follows:

1) Wear down you opponent
2) Make the opposition move the puck before they want to, which could leave to a bad pass or turnoever.
3) Take the player out of the play to creat separation for yourself and thus an odd man advantage. This is the ultimate result of a body check.

Hitting and bodychecking are a vital part of the game. What players don't like is when players take a run at a teammate, as opposed to hitting a teammate. What that means is that if you're Modano and you're coming down the boards, you expect Scott Stevens to step into you. That's his job and the way the game should be played. What you don't want to see is the likes of the agitators coming half way across the ice to make a hit on a skilled player. That's taking a run at a guy and leads to much of the problems in the game. You take the hits that are there, but when you go out of your way to make a hit, that's when players take issue and fights result.
Great post. I also agree with djhn579 that hits that target the knees or head, especially by repeat offenders (Marchment), should recieve stiff penalties.

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BAN this dangerous weapon we call a PUCK also!!! We could play hockey with a ball made of paper so the players doesnt need equipment except for skates... ahem oh yeah dangerous also...

Hitting is to hockey what girls are to a porno movie.. oh well.

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BAN this dangerous weapon we call a PUCK also!!! We could play hockey with a ball made of paper so the players doesnt need equipment except for skates... ahem oh yeah dangerous also...

Hitting is to hockey what girls are to a porno movie.. oh well.
Sorry, won't work, paper cuts...

Maybe feathers... but then someone could be allergic to feathers...


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"Hitting is to hockey what girls are to a porno movie.. oh well."



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Anyways,

Ban hitting, and there will be NO such thing as Hockey anymore....

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How about we ban goal scoring too ? That way both teams are winners , and no one gets their feeling hurt ? Then all the teams win the Stanley Cup , because they're all winners !

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