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02-21-2011, 09:06 AM
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chance you have to take. Lundqvist is not worth the cap space he is taking, and this team will never win anything of significance with him in net.

I agree on ANY goalie taking up that much cap space .As for this team wininng anything with him in net ,YES THIS TEAM AS CONSTRUCTED .In order to win we need to have an elite/impact /franchise player in his prime not over 30 on this team .In order to do that without a full tank we have the hard decision of eventually selling one or more of your best established relatively young players . It leaves a hole but at some point if a Toews , Stamkos , type player is able to be obtained in the draft in a deepyear and you have to sell a Marc Staal plus Dubinsky ,callahan etc you do it .I love Staal but he is stillj ust a piece until you can get the centerpiece player like Toews ,Stamkos , Crosby , Ovechkin etc . Defense is great but team defense is what wins . Our all star is great and a great leader and shut down reliableplayer but down one in a game cant elevate his game and players around him offensively and score . Defense wins no doubt but defensive teams with no scoring loses one goal games over and over . whats the differance between losing by one or 3 , there is no consolation points for almosts .

for the record i love Staal but if he got us a young number one Center he would be worth selling at some point .

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First id have a mini firesale with Prospal, Fedetenko, EC, and Gilroy. Acquiring multiple picks and prospects and gaining another 2.8m in capspace.

Id force Drury to retire from all his injuries and serious decline in play, while forcing Redden to leave to try to resurrect his career someplace else. Opening up another 13m of capspace.

During the draft i package some picks together to move up in the draft. Look at other teams and their situation and possibly look to Pitt to make a deal. Anisimov, Del Zotto, Wolski, and picks/prospects for Malkin.

I sign Brad Richards in the offseason. Look for good solid Vet-D to fill in the roster.

Dubinsky Richards Gaborik
(Grachev)? Malkin Callahan
(Kreider)? Stepan Zucca
Avery Boyle Prust

Staal Girardi
Sauer McDonagh
V-tank ?

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02-21-2011, 09:34 AM
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First id have a mini firesale with Prospal, Fedetenko, EC, and Gilroy. Acquiring multiple picks and prospects and gaining another 2.8m in capspace.

Id force Drury to retire from all his injuries and serious decline in play, while forcing Redden to leave to try to resurrect his career someplace else. Opening up another 13m of capspace.

During the draft i package some picks together to move up in the draft. Look at other teams and their situation and possibly look to Pitt to make a deal. Anisimov, Del Zotto, Wolski, and picks/prospects for Malkin.

I sign Brad Richards in the offseason. Look for good solid Vet-D to fill in the roster.

Dubinsky Richards Gaborik
(Grachev)? Malkin Callahan
(Kreider)? Stepan Zucca
Avery Boyle Prust

Staal Girardi
Sauer McDonagh
V-tank ?

Newsflash no one wants any of those players we are looking to move .The " Core Players " we ahve to resign are the only pieces we have of any value .I'm all for staying the course but at some point if the right player becomes available you are not geting him for Retreads , waiver wire shoot out specialists , and former Hobey Baker award winning overage rookies . As for Brad richards he could help us get to next level but at 31 and concussed and our " elite sniper " playing more like an "average 3rd liner " and concussed it just looks like another cap crippling debacle

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can't we sign a scorer in the offseason instead of a top flight center? who's he gonna be passing to? Richards never touched 30 goals (he's come close) and usually doubles his goal scoring production with assists. but he only gets those assists because he plays with guys that can bury the puck. as far as i can see, we don't have much of that. we have guys that can pass Gaborik the puck, but not a thing has come from that. guy's probably gonna stay in Dallas anyway...

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can't we sign a scorer in the offseason instead of a top flight center? who's he gonna be passing to? Richards never touched 30 goals (he's come close) and usually doubles his goal scoring production with assists. but he only gets those assists because he plays with guys that can bury the puck. as far as i can see, we don't have much of that. we have guys that can pass Gaborik the puck, but not a thing has come from that. guy's probably gonna stay in Dallas anyway...
look at the UFA's or modest cap hits available out there not much lookoing so sexy .this is why the whole Richards thing is very shaky ,Is gaborik ever going to be Gaborik that is worth 7.5 Millon ? Will any of our prospects be more than 1B ,or 2 level talent . Will Dubinsky my favorite player have a breakoiut and injury free season like ryan Kelser is he has a richards on his team . If we throw the $$$ at BR and he sucks we are once again stuck waiting out a bad contract . I would prefer to stick with our core and somehow find /trade for / trade up for a young potentialnumber one center in the BR mold . schenn ?,Couturier ? along those lines . How does Detroit find all these Datsuks , Zetterbergs , etc and we can't

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Newsflash no one wants any of those players we are looking to move .The " Core Players " we ahve to resign are the only pieces we have of any value .I'm all for staying the course but at some point if the right player becomes available you are not geting him for Retreads , waiver wire shoot out specialists , and former Hobey Baker award winning overage rookies . As for Brad richards he could help us get to next level but at 31 and concussed and our " elite sniper " playing more like an "average 3rd liner " and concussed it just looks like another cap crippling debacle
Dude seriously, re-read my post and then answer my response again. The players that im talking about trading off for late picks and whatever is Prospal, Feds, EC, Gilroy. Prospal can net us a 2nd n 3rd, feds can get us a 3rd, ec and gilroy can net us real late picks like 6-7th round picks.

How was i ever saying that we would get malkin for retreads? Is Anisimov, Del Zotto, Wolski, and picks/prospects that? Thats two top 6 forwards.. a winger to fit next to crosby, anisimov to help take out Malkins spot, Del Zotto is a top young defenseman, and picks/prospects can be a 1st and 2 2nd round picks we have in this years draft.

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look at the UFA's or modest cap hits available out there not much lookoing so sexy .this is why the whole Richards thing is very shaky ,Is gaborik ever going to be Gaborik that is worth 7.5 Millon ? Will any of our prospects be more than 1B ,or 2 level talent . Will Dubinsky my favorite player have a breakoiut and injury free season like ryan Kelser is he has a richards on his team . If we throw the $$$ at BR and he sucks we are once again stuck waiting out a bad contract . I would prefer to stick with our core and somehow find /trade for / trade up for a young potentialnumber one center in the BR mold . schenn ?,Couturier ? along those lines . How does Detroit find all these Datsuks , Zetterbergs , etc and we can't
because they really like scouting Europe for hidden talent.

and idc if the Richards thing is shaky. i really feel like we don't need him. i'd rather spend money on a solid veteran defenseman that can help out the youngsters and perhaps teach Del Zotto and Gilroy to play better defense. or perhaps a 30 goal guy that can help out with the scoring.

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Dude seriously, re-read my post and then answer my response again. The players that im talking about trading off for late picks and whatever is Prospal, Feds, EC, Gilroy. Prospal can net us a 2nd n 3rd, feds can get us a 3rd, ec and gilroy can net us real late picks like 6-7th round picks.

How was i ever saying that we would get malkin for retreads? Is Anisimov, Del Zotto, Wolski, and picks/prospects that? Thats two top 6 forwards.. a winger to fit next to crosby, anisimov to help take out Malkins spot, Del Zotto is a top young defenseman, and picks/prospects can be a 1st and 2 2nd round picks we have in this years draft.
sorry ,misread ,but Malkin might be finsihed atan elite level . But reiterate my point we e lucky to get 3-4 round picks for the torts retread pack

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Avery has no chance to succeed in this league. He can't do his thing anymore. The NHL clearly has an agenda against him.

Avery doesn't get away with anything anymore. Every little thing he does gets called. He even gets penalized when he's not even guilty. The wonderful thing about this is, how the refs catching every single minor he takes, overlook the blatant shots against him.

Avery's done.
I just want one more run of him being "Avery" The thing that bothered me was the benching in the playoffs by Torts who then proceeds to get suspended himself!

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sorry ,misread ,but Malkin might be finsihed atan elite level . But reiterate my point we e lucky to get 3-4 round picks for the torts retread pack
Maybe but thats exactly why his value is at an all-time low, and if we can get him at that price, you have to do it. Im sure he will be fine and heal well.

Either way, i do believe we can get those type of picks for those players. Yea we will get 6th and 7th round picks for EC and Gilroy bc you know someone will take a chance on them and it frees up 2.8m in capspace for next year which we will need.

Feds would be an important 3rd liner that playoff teams will want to add that can play a solid two way game and stick up for his teammates. In the sellers market that we are in we can definatly get a 3rd rounder for him.

Prospal is a top 6 forward anyway you look at it and i believe a team like the Kings would easily take a chance on him for a 2nd and 3rd round pick. Your not going to find a top 6 forward for that price anywhere else.

We would end up with, basically 3m in capspace savings, we trim the fat that wont be on the team next year, and add draft picks/prospects that can help us in the long run to acquire other peices to our puzzle.

Having a...
1 - 1st rounder
3 - 2nd rounders
2 - 3rd rounders
1 - 4th rounder
1 - 5th rounder
2 - 6th rounders
2 - 7th rounders

Maybe packaging together 2 2nds, 1 3rd, and our 1st could get us into the top 10 pick

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Prospal WAS a top 6 forward a long time ago . He is if anything a face-off specialist fourth liner now .

NO More Torts Retreads

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Prospal WAS a top 6 forward a long time ago . He is if anything a face-off specialist fourth liner now .

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HAHA your funny Dorado. Thats your opinion but i think ALOT of people and GMs would think differently than you. Put a value for prospal thread on the trade board and see what people offer. A team that is already secured in the playoffs and that needs a top 6 forward would take a chance on a RENTAL player of Prospal's caliber who can be a player thatl help a playoff team

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There are A LOT of bright spots on this team to be happy about. I don't think we need to be crying for Tortorella's head, even though we have been watching a very underwhelming product since the all-star break.

Positives
  • The Marc Staal-Dan Girardi pairing
  • Ryan McDonagh and Michael Sauer both playing with poise beyond their years as rookies
  • Ryan Callahan blossoming into our likely next captain, and being the heartbeat of the team
  • Brandon Dubinsky blossoming into a legitimate 2nd liner that plays a gritty game as well
  • The contributions of Brandon Prust and Brian Boyle
  • Derek Stepan looking like a future stud
  • Anisimov improving on his rookie season
  • Zuccarello, who brings the skill and shootout prowress that Christensen has, but you also notice him when he's on the ice
  • Drafting Chris Kreider who looks to be a gem

Negatives
  • Marian Gaborik being unrecognizable on most games, when last season he was such a stud for us
  • Zero elite offensive talent outside from Gaborik, who is having a terrible year, and clearly could use help
  • Chris Drury's regression into a 4th line shot blocker (which is okay), but taking up an elite level cap hit(which is not okay)
  • Matt Gilroy and Michael Del Zotto on the ice at the same time, AKA 'The Liability Pairing'
  • Hopefully it is just growing pains, which many players have endured, but Del Zotto's regression this season from last has been really bad
  • Wasting cap space and a roster spot on a designated tough guy who failed to convincingly beat anyone up, and is currently out with a concussion from losing a fight. Looking at you, 'Boogeyman'.

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No rebuild, just get rid of garbage and replace them with good players. Keep making room for good prospects and help them develop. Don't trade 1st round picks unless it is for a really good player in his prime.

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On What team is a 36 yr old who never could skate nor never out up huge numbers coming off major knee problems a top six . He could maybe play a Mactavish role on a good team as a bottom sixer , take face-offs 2nd unit powerplay but have you seen him on the forecheck and trying to back check . I love the guys attitude but he is finished

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  • Re-sign all of the RFA's - preferably under 4 million for Dubinsky, Cally [3 years] and under 1.8 for Boyle and Sauer [2 years]. Anisimov [3 years] 2.0 sounds about right.
  • Attempt to move Avery, Prospal, Christensen, Gilroy, Fedetenko, Eminger for anything really
  • If EC still around at start of next season waive him, Avery rotating forward if still here
  • Listen to offers for Brian Boyle to see if he can be packaged for a legit D using any assets acquired at the deadline; future top 4 - not sure of a viable target right now
  • Bring up Tim Kennedy and keep him on the roster
  • Draft forward prospects, preferably centers and PMD's but do not pass up a BPA [Cam Fowler situation] if one falls into Ranger position
  • Give prospects another legitimate shot at the pening night roster, Grachev, Kreider, Werek, Valentenko, Kundratek, etc
  • Attempt to sign Brad Richards in FA, if available, 6.5/5 yrs sounds like an ideal situation for all parties. If unable to attain his services, seek contingency plan -- if available through trade, money issues, etc -- otherwise stay the course
  • Buyout Drury if he refuses to retire - that cap space will be invaluable
  • Do not resign Prospal, Frolov, Fedetenko, Gilroy, or Eminger

Wolski - Stepan - Gaborik
Callahan - Anisimov - Dubinsky
Zucc - Boyle - Kennedy
Avery - Prust - Boogaard

Staal - Girardi
McD - Sauer
MdZ - ?????

Lundqvist
Biron


If Richards were to sign:

Wolski - Richards - Gaborik
Callahan - Stepan - Dubinsky
Zuccarello - Anisimov - Kennedy
Prust - Boyle - Boogaard
Avery

Staal - Girardi
McD - Sauer
MdZ - ?????

Lundqvist
Biron

Eh not sure what the cap is on that one, but I know it fits. And if I could somehow get Boogie and Avery off the roster and attain Neil, I would DEFINITELY do that.


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-I send MDZ to Hartford and let him work on his game for the next year and half. We claim that we have patience as an organization, well now we show it. ( I also force him to get a haircut so he doesn't look like Leo Sayer)

-I would try to trade one player at this deadline. Brian Boyle. Not because I don't like him and appreciate the strides he has made as a player but because I don't think his value will ever be higher than it is right now. I also feel like he is currently playing at his ceiling. I don't get get the feeling that this guy will be a consistent 20 goal scorer every year when I watch him play. That is just my opinion and I know it isn't shared by many on here.

-If I can't trade Boyle then I would just stand pact at the deadline and do nothing. I can try to trade guys like Prospal, Gilroy, EC etc. but I doubt they have any value around the league. So it isn't really worth discussing.

-I re-sign RFA's Dubinsky, Cally, Arty and Sauer. I try and give Arty and Sauer 2 year (one way) contracts between 950,000 - 1,150,000 per. Dubi and Cally are probably going to cost me 3.5 - 4 mill per.

-I don't give Gilroy a qualifying offer.

-I let Prospal, Fedotenko, Frolov and Eminger walk as UFA's.

-I try and move Wolski. Guys with his talent who have been traded twice before the age of 24 are a huge red flag for me. I don't like building my team with guys who have had past effort issues and who "i hope figure it out".

-I take a good look at the next two UFA classes and realize that the only player worth going after till 2014 is Brad Richards. He also fits the glaring hole I have which is 1C. I offer Richards a contract worth 6.5 -6.75 per for 5 years. If he accepts I buyout Drury. If he doesn't I don't buyout Drury and let him play out the final year of his contract.

-I hope Grachev makes strides and wins a spot on the opening night roster on the 3rd line. If he doesn't his spot goes to EC. (I do not play Grachev on the 4th line)

-I leave the extra 4th line spot open and the 13th forward slot open and let someone win them out of camp.

-I give Valentenko a chance to win the 6th/7th D spot.

-I sign 2 bottom pairing vet D-Man to 1 year contracts as a bridge. I wait until the initial feeding frenzy on July 1st ends and shop in the bargain bin later on.


Opening night roster....if I nab Richards.

FORWARDS
Dubinsky($3.750m) /Richards ($6.750m) /Gaborik ($7.500m)
Callahan($3.750m) /Stepan ($0.875m) /Zuccarello($1.750m)
Avery($1.937m)/Anisimov($0.950m)/Christensen/Grachev ($0.925m)
Boogaard ($1.625m) /OPEN/Prust ($0.800m)

DEFENSEMEN

Staal ($3.975m) / Girardi ($3.325m)
McDonagh ($1.300m) /Sauer ($0.950m)
Cheap Vet D-Man/Cheap Vet D-Man
Pavel Valentenko ($0.850m)

GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m)
Martin Biron ($0.875m)

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Honestly, this team just needs to stay the course. Sather has brought in a bunch of young guys through some trades (Boyle, Wolski, McD, Prust) and the organization has done some awesome drafting since the lockout (Staal, Dubinsky, Callahan, Stepan, Anisimov, MDZ, Sauer) and signing undrafted FA's (MZA, Girardi) with some other players still waiting to arrive (Grachev, Kreider, Thomas, McIlrath, Horak, Valentenko, Weise, Werek). The future is bright.

If by next week the Rangers appear to be out of it, I look to possibly trade guys who have some value such as Fedetenko and Prospal. And then see what kind of market there is for guys like Christensen, Gilroy, Eminger, etc. If you cant get decent value, you dont move them. If we can net some Draft picks that can allow our Scouting Department to pick some extra players then I do that. Award them for their diligent work the last few years by allowing them to pick a few more players they want.

As far as Lundqvist and Gaborik go. I dont trade either of them. Its imperative to realize that if you trade Lundqvist, you dont have a number one goalie prospect in the system ready to replace him. Biron isn't a number one anymore. And also another thing to realize about Gaborik is that he is such a threat offensively to other teams that he commands the other teams best defensive pairing, regardless of how well he is playing. Opening up the ice for the other lines to be able to play. The only way i was to trade a guy like Gaborik is if it was a lateral trade for another Elite player. I honestly dont think Gaborik truly fits tortorellas style of play. If we were able to get a guy like Rick Nash for Gaborik I would do it. But i doubt that would happen.

So basically the whole motto of my post is to stay the course. Keep building with the players from the system. In a few years when it looks like we can truly be a contender, then i would go out and get some of those final pieces to make that push for the cup. Even if we end up missing the playoffs this year, We are making progress as a team. The young players are stepping up and producing. They are growing as players in this league and we keep adding more to the system every year.

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Rather than just playing GM, I get involved and micro-manage a little.

Short term plan for the remainder of this season.

Priority number I : Forwards

Stay the course. Keep the kids like many here have mentioned. My core is similar to what other have posted, butÖI am going to attempt to change the dynamic from within. I take what I have and interchange some parts. My first line for the remainder of the season is Dubi/Anisimov/Callahan. They have been intact for a decent amount of time and they all play well together. They are physical which to me carries a lot of weight down the stretch. There should be no easy shifts when playing against this trio. For the second line. Assuming Gaborik is healthy, I look from within to add a center to play with I move Zuccarello to the middle. Heís not big, but he plays big. Heís a lefty. Heís as creative as your gonna find, and he seems to love playing here. Reward him, and give him the chance to play here. The left side keep Wolski there. Let them learn to play with each other. Give them time to develop, like say the rest of the season together. That is my top 6 that I employ for the rest of the season barring injury. Those are my go to guys and I have my coach hammer it home that these guys are the guys that the organization is looking at to get the job done. Let me add this little disclosure, if Gaborik canít finish the season due to the concussion a quick alternative for me would be to try and swing a deal with the Philly Flyers to add Nicky Zherdev. I start with a 2nd round pick. I donít give them a first for him. Being that Philly traded their first I think they would be interested in the 2nd. Zherdev only has this year on his contract. If Gaborik canít finish I put Zherdev there. He has Played both LW and RW in the past. 3rd line is Feds/Boyle/Prust of course assuming that Feds is nearing a return. I love this line from day one. They bring it, and for whatever reason that chemistry between Boyle and Prust is flat out awesome! Feds only adds more hockey IQ to the line with potential top 6 skills to boot. This line is a coaches dream. Small tweak to the 4th line. Let me just start by saying to me a successful 4th line is a line that can not only play a regular shift, but make as much noise as possible in doing so. I donít want my 4th line to play scared. I want them to bring it. Let them create their own scoring chances, butÖimplement the rule. Never pass up on a hit when the opportunity presents itself. Donít run players to injure, but always impose your will. The extra shove after the whistle. Snow the oppositions goalie. Hit the oppositions top player if the chance arises. Lastly and maybe most importantly, dump and chase hard to wear down the defense. Let them know that you are coming, and you are initiating contact. After a while, it wears down the d, especially when there are players that can impose their will. Problem isÖOnly guy like that on this team isnít a 4th liner so I look outside for a player. Being Neil supposedly doesnít want to come to NY I then look over to Nashville to try and snatch Jordan Tootoo. He is the perfect guy for this role. He hits hard, and he never stops. Heís a more polished version of Ryan Hollweg. If not Tootoo I would look into a guy like Bissionette. But Tootoo is absolutely my first choice. Avery initiates contact, Tootoo crushes people. Stepan plays it smart inbetween the two of them and this line will pick up some points along the way as well.

Line 1 Dubinsky / Anisimov / Callahan
Line 2 Wolski / Zuccarello / Gaborik
Line 3 Fedotenko/ Boyle / Prust When Feds is ready
Line 4 Avery / Stepan / Tootoo/Bissionette


Priority number II : Defense
Let me just start by saying I like the defense already. I am not a huge fan of making big moves here as I am an advocate for keeping pairings in tact for a period of time. Of course the goal is to create chemistry. Top 4 is fine by me already. The last pairing is where it gets iffy at best. I was an advocate originally for adding Kaberle, and even McCabe strictly with this season in mind. With three games to go before the deadline I donít like the looks of a rental player anymore butÖI am not against the idea of a rental player for salary dump. In fact that is 100% my play. I look to the Panthers here to take on Drury in a deal for McCabe. Donít give me any no-trade crap. This club gave the guy his biggest payday in his life. One year in sunny florida wouldnít hurt him. If I get the deal OKíd by the other side I as GM would that NTC waived. Also, I know straight up this deal doesnít go down straight up so I sweeten it with this. 2011 2nd rounder plus one of either Kundratek/Grachev/Valentenko. Florida is on the rebuild, they donít have big funds and they are near the cap floor. From a business standpoint the Cats would probably take on the bigger cap hit for lesser dollar amount especially to land prospects/players. Overcompensate a deal to take on the salary dump. More on how to get the 1st rounder back at the draft table later.

Staal/Girardi
Sauer/McDonough
Gilroy/Eminger/McCabe


Priority number III : Fix the Power Play.
I donít know who the best PP coach in the league is, but I would start by looking to some of the best PP performers over the years. If I had to look inside, maybe this would be a good job to break Brian Leetch into the system with? Guy lives in manhattan still right? He certainly has the credentials. Being that he is always at the garden I would think he wants to be involved. Reunite him with Mess and Graves who are also here but get him involved. Do it now, and let him work strictly with the PP units daily at practice. Could be the inexpensive way to get this done. Lastly I send MDZ back to the AHL for the remainder of the season barring an injury and keep Eminger and Gilroy to rotate as the 6th man.

Tweakings :
Prospal Ė Sits immediately. If I can trade him I do. Maybe Fla has interest. I think Prospal would go back down south. If not itís over for him in NY.
Cristensen ĖHealthy scratch, or possibly moved to a team on the cusp of making the playoffs with a bad shootout percentage.

Offseason goal would be Richards.

Would also toy with the idea of trading Wolski plus a pick to try and move up in the draft as next season if Dru was off the book and McCabe I think there would be some money left to snatch up a LW that fits with Richards and Gaborik. Thinking an Eric Cole here.


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In the short-term, i.e. before the trade deadline I would tweak the roster/stay the course/shop around. I wouldn't make too many drastic changes right now. Just ride it out and see what happens the rest of the way this year.

Long-term, I would make some more significant changes.

Trade Gaborik if the return is good. I've seen enough of his pansy ass. It seems like this years draft is weak so it would have to be for a proven player or two, plus a couple draft picks. No more softies.

Trade Gilroy and Christensen for prospects or picks.

Let Frolov, Prospal, and Eminger walk.

Resign Callahan, Dubinsky, Fedetenko, Sauer, Anisimov, Boyle.

Sign Brad Richards in the off season (do not trade for him)

Sign a proven veteran defenseman.

Continue to bring the youngsters along and maybe a rookie or two.

Pray that Drury retires and Redden leaves the rest of his contract on the table and walks away in hopes of getting back to the NHL.

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The Keepers
- Dubinsky, Stepan, Anisimov, Callahan, Prust, Zuccarello, Staal, Girardi, Sauer, McD, Lundqvist and Biron.

If you configure the lineup just out of keepers it looks like this..

Dubinsky - XXXX - XXXX
XXXX - Stepan - Zuccarello
XXXX - Anisimov - Callahan
XXXX - XXXX - Prust

Staal - Giardi
McD - Sauer
XXXX - XXXX

Lundqvist & Biron.

The Movers(I'd move for the right price) and Rumored To Be Moved..
- Prospal, Fedotenko, Avery, Boyle, Christensen, Gaborik, Del Zotto, Eminger, Gilroy. Maybe Grachev, Valentenko, and Picks. Of course the price has to be right for some of these players..

It remains obvious a 1st line center is this teams most pressing need along with more consistent scorers. The key though is players that fit our type of playing style. Realistically the only two names rumored to be available are Richards and now apparently for a steep price Stastny.

Now as GM I get to live in a bit of a fantasy haha soo..

- Richards and Neal + 1st for Gaborik and Del Zotto +2nd(which becomes a 1st if Richards resigns.)
This trade gives us two first line talents which will compliment Dubinsky's game giving us a formidable first line which 2/3rds of it have tremendous chemistry. On top of that Richards gives us our power play quarter back.
- So with this trade made I would automatically keep Brian Boyle and Fedotenko. So now were set on the right wing and down the middle.

Dubinsky - Richards - Neal
XXXX - Stepan - Zuccarello
XXXX - Anisimov - Callahan
Fedotenko - Boyle - Prust.

- Next I move Wolski + Grachev + Gilroy + 2nd for Wideman and Booth. Wideman btw leads all dmen with 8 pp goals. Yes I feel its fair when you look at Wisniewski getting a 2nd and Brewer a prospect plus a 3rd.

Starts to shape into

Dubinsky - Richards - Neal
Booth - Stepan - Zuccarello
Prospal/Avery(until Kreider next year) - Anisimov - Callahan
Fedotenko - Boyle - Prust

Staal - Girardi
McD - Sauer
Eminger - Wideman

If I could find a veteran left dman for a mixture of prospal, avery, christensen, and eminger I'd make that move too. When summer time came I'd resign Fedotenko to keep the 4th line intact, buyout Drury and Avery, resign Richards, and all my RFA's.

I think the acquisitions fit Torts' and This teams style of play and there's plenty of goal scoring to go around. So to be GM for a day was a nice little fantasy.

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i wouldnt do much of anything. Be nice to get in the playoffs but not at the cost of giving up on young guys.

Id test the market for wolski - see if we can grab another 2nd. that would give us three.

Same for boyle - i dont think we've seen his ceiling yet but i think he's replacable (werek) and would consider selling high. He's producing similarly to versteeg and plays PK - not unfathomable to think low first/high 2nd for him.

that would give us 4 2nds.

I'd like to see what kundratek can do for a bit - seen enough of DZ for the year. People say "put eminger back in" but i don't think thats a wise allocation of minutes; our playoff chances dont hinge on eminger's presence. I wouldnt trade DZ, who is 20.

See if you can move prospal/christensen/etc. if not then whatever.

trade prust - hope hagelin can replace him next year - faster, better hands, equal threat on the PK.

Hold on to anisimov/grachev.

In the off-season i'd buyout drury. try to sign richards and ehrhoff.

If we lose boyle id consider signing marco sturm

Zuccarello - Richards - Gaborik
Dubinsky - Anisimov - Thomas (Christian... if he makes it which is certainly possible)
Kreider - Stepan - Callahan
Sturm - Avery - Hagelin (interchangeable)

Staal - Girardi
Sauer - Ehrhoff
DZ/Kundratek - Mcdonagh

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I like the idea of "staying the course," at least in theory, but I'm not so sure I can see what that course is. In the post-lockout era, where most GM's were aware of the need to build through the draft, Sather was the one GM who consistently made a splash in free agency every single year. It wasn't until he handcuffed himself cap-wise that we started hearing about this "youth movement" that was supposedly the plan all along.

On the flip side of that, I don't think you can "blow it up" because there isn't a whole lot to blow up. To me, if you're truly committing to the kids as the future of this team, then you have to seriously consider trading Lundqvist and Gaborik. I think McKenzie said it best on NHL Live today; "It's a 5 stage process, and the Rangers are at stage 2 of that process."

Issue being, your two major assets carry huge contracts, and I don't think the return would be as incredible as we would hope. Gaborik is injury prone, and now has a concussion. Who is going to pay for that? Lundqvist is the highest paid goalie in the league, and has been battling consistency for his entire career. Is there really the kind of market out there that would make it worth it?

On that same note, do we really want to move those players for futures? I certainly don't. I would want pieces that are right on the cusp of being NHL regulars, if they aren't there already. However, I don't think either player will fetch you an up-and-coming #1C, or #1C prospect.

I'll have to think about this a little more, but I don't think Brad Richards would be a part of my future plans.

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Hank to Red wings / Swedish Natl Team tre Kronos for Jimmy Howard , Val Flipula and whoever their salary dump is to clear space maybe Jonathon Ericson or even Brad Stuart plus a prospect

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Prospal WAS a top 6 forward a long time ago . He is if anything a face-off specialist fourth liner now .

NO More Torts Retreads
Prospal was second on the team in scoring last season. 20G 38A. About a 1/3 of his production came on the PP.

Whether you agree with it or not, statistically, those are top-6 numbers.

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If you would swap Howard/Lundqvist, then it's safe to say you haven't watched any Red Wings games. Howards been brutal this year.

And for those guys suggesting Lundqvist has batteled consistency issues his entire career, you should take a look at his statistics and compare them to other netminders around the league. He's as consistent as they come, post-lockout.

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