HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Metropolitan Division > Pittsburgh Penguins
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

Neal and Niskanen for Goligoski

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
02-22-2011, 03:35 PM
  #626
Ugene Malkin
Bück Dich Baby!
 
Ugene Malkin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Pittsburgh
Country: Germany
Posts: 21,836
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by wej20 View Post
Bylsma's saying Neal - Staal - Kennedy will be a line against the Sharks which should be good to see.
FYP.

Ugene Malkin is offline  
Old
02-22-2011, 03:36 PM
  #627
Sidney the Kidney
Injured Reserve
 
Sidney the Kidney's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Country: Canada
Posts: 14,753
vCash: 1000
Quote:
Originally Posted by spcastlemagic View Post
On the topic of looking too far ahead, wouldn't:

Kunitz - Crosby - Malkin
Neal - Staal - Kennedy

be kind of awesome?
I don't want Sid and Geno on the same line, especially now that we've got at least enough top six wingers to put one on each of their lines.

I'd actually be intrigued by something like (assuming the team wants to stick with the Geno/Staal combination) the following going into next season:
Kunitz - Crosby - FA winger/Kennedy
Neal - Staal - Malkin

Sidney the Kidney is offline  
Old
02-22-2011, 03:38 PM
  #628
eXile59
Shirts on.
 
eXile59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: PA
Posts: 16,355
vCash: 500
Crosby, Malkin, Staal, Kunitz, Neal...thats five legit top 6 players. All we need is one of the centers to learn how to play wing and add another winger.

I love Neals cap hit by the way.

eXile59 is offline  
Old
02-22-2011, 03:38 PM
  #629
AquaticBirdman
Gladams FTW!
 
AquaticBirdman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Montreal, Canada
Country: Canada
Posts: 23,328
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by wej20 View Post
Bylsma's saying Neal - Staal - Kennedy will be a line against the Stars which should be good to see.
Woudl be good if we could get Kuni back for that game as well. Highly doubtful though.

AquaticBirdman is offline  
Old
02-22-2011, 03:40 PM
  #630
eXile59
Shirts on.
 
eXile59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: PA
Posts: 16,355
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidney the Kidney View Post
I don't want Sid and Geno on the same line, especially now that we've got at least enough top six wingers to put one on each of their lines.

I'd actually be intrigued by something like (assuming the team wants to stick with the Geno/Staal combination) the following going into next season:
Kunitz - Crosby - FA winger/Kennedy
Neal - Staal - Malkin
One of the biggest mistake the Pens have made in some time is trying to make Malkin a second line winger. He needs to be centering a line or on a line with Sid.

eXile59 is offline  
Old
02-22-2011, 03:40 PM
  #631
JTG
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Country: Sierra Leone
Posts: 38,891
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by spcastlemagic View Post
On the topic of looking too far ahead, wouldn't:

Kunitz - Crosby - Malkin
Neal - Staal - Kennedy

be kind of awesome?
If Neal sees similar results as Kunitz has with Staal, that 2nd line could be good for everybody involved, especially if Kennedy catches fire and we get him signed to a sub-1.0 cap hit.

JTG is offline  
Old
02-22-2011, 03:42 PM
  #632
Sidney the Kidney
Injured Reserve
 
Sidney the Kidney's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Country: Canada
Posts: 14,753
vCash: 1000
Quote:
Originally Posted by eXile59 View Post
One of the biggest mistake the Pens have made in some time is trying to make Malkin a second line winger. He needs to be centering a line or on a line with Sid.
I typically agree. My proposed lines were under the assumption, though, that the club still decides it wants to try Staal and Malkin on the same line.

As for Sid playing with Malkin, I just think that now that we have Neal, we have enough top six guys to scramble around and spread the depth so Sid and Geno don't have to play together. Them on separate lines makes us a deeper/tougher team to line match against, and now they each can have a legitimate top six winger on their lines.

Sidney the Kidney is offline  
Old
02-22-2011, 03:46 PM
  #633
Shady Machine
Registered User
 
Shady Machine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 13,458
vCash: 500
I know these arguments get beat to death and we all have our own opinions but I really want Malkin centering his own line. We now have a legit winger to put with him and we can try one of our "lesser" centers in Letestu and Jeffrey try to adapt to wing. I think Neal / Malkin / Tube or Jeffrey with Staal in his normal 3rd line role makes this team the strongest. We could now legitimately roll 3 strong lines.

Shady Machine is offline  
Old
02-22-2011, 03:47 PM
  #634
Shady Machine
Registered User
 
Shady Machine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 13,458
vCash: 500
Of course all of this is moot until next season anyways.

Shady Machine is offline  
Old
02-22-2011, 03:48 PM
  #635
Jaded-Fan
Registered User
 
Jaded-Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 33,237
vCash: 500
When healthy I also prefer the three center approach. We will have the cap space to get one more good wing this offseason, and the Staal does amazing with guys like Cooke on that third line. Unless they are looking to keep Staal happy and he is unhappy in that role, I do not see it as being an experiment that will be an improvement from a hockey standpoint. But with Malkin out, and not knowing who Shero may bring in in the offseason, we have a long time before we need to start worrying about it.

Jaded-Fan is offline  
Old
02-22-2011, 03:49 PM
  #636
UnderratedBrooks44
Registered User
 
UnderratedBrooks44's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Miranda's house
Posts: 12,882
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shady Machine View Post
I know these arguments get beat to death and we all have our own opinions but I really want Malkin centering his own line. We now have a legit winger to put with him and we can try one of our "lesser" centers in Letestu and Jeffrey try to adapt to wing. I think Neal / Malkin / Tube or Jeffrey with Staal in his normal 3rd line role makes this team the strongest. We could now legitimately roll 3 strong lines.
Yeah I see no valid reason for Staal to play with Malkin right now unless you count gluttony. We can now have 3 legit lines as you said. Keep Staal with his usual and just fill the first two right wings with free agents or whoever from our current crops of 'eh' players.

UnderratedBrooks44 is offline  
Old
02-22-2011, 04:00 PM
  #637
SirBrad
Registered User
 
SirBrad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: NJ via Pgh
Country: United States
Posts: 4,712
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by UnderratedBrooks44 View Post
Yeah I see no valid reason for Staal to play with Malkin right now unless you count gluttony. We can now have 3 legit lines as you said. Keep Staal with his usual and just fill the first two right wings with free agents or whoever from our current crops of 'eh' players.
Exactly how I am thinking.

Crosby - Malkin - Staal - Letestu is tremendous center depth. The only idea I would like to see them toy with is TK on the Crosby or Malkin line. Otherwise I think Jeffey could potentially fill one of those roles and they really only have to worry about getting another top 6 guy this summer.

Kunitz - Crosby - UFA
Neal - Malkin - Jeffrey
Cooke - Staal - Kennedy
Conner? - Letestu - Adams

SirBrad is offline  
Old
02-22-2011, 04:04 PM
  #638
Shady Machine
Registered User
 
Shady Machine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 13,458
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by SirBrad View Post
Exactly how I am thinking.

Crosby - Malkin - Staal - Letestu is tremendous center depth. The only idea I would like to see them toy with is TK on the Crosby or Malkin line. Otherwise I think Jeffey could potentially fill one of those roles and they really only have to worry about getting another top 6 guy this summer.

Kunitz - Crosby - UFA
Neal - Malkin - Jeffrey
Cooke - Staal - Kennedy
Conner? - Letestu - Adams
That looks good to me. My only counter would be replacing conner with a physical guy or more gritty player. I have really liked Vitale so far and wouldn't mind seeing him on the 4th line next year. Then your 13th guy can be a veteran presence. Maybe Asham or Rupp is they sign for cheap.

Shady Machine is offline  
Old
02-22-2011, 04:05 PM
  #639
MtlPenFan
Registered User
 
MtlPenFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 11,506
vCash: 500
Staalkin is happening whether people like it or not. Letestu isn't going to center any fourth line on this team.

MtlPenFan is online now  
Old
02-22-2011, 04:06 PM
  #640
UnderratedBrooks44
Registered User
 
UnderratedBrooks44's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Miranda's house
Posts: 12,882
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shady Machine View Post
That looks good to me. My only counter would be replacing conner with a physical guy or more gritty player. I have really liked Vitale so far and wouldn't mind seeing him on the 4th line next year. Then your 13th guy can be a veteran presence. Maybe Asham or Rupp is they sign for cheap.
I would like a PKer in that spot. If they think Vitale can handle that then fine, but it should be a PKer. There's already 4 there but with injuries I'd like another. I'd also like someone similar for the 13th forward. Eff fighting, it doesn't matter.

UnderratedBrooks44 is offline  
Old
02-22-2011, 04:06 PM
  #641
Darth Vitale
Moderator
Transitional Period
 
Darth Vitale's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Victoryville
Country: United States
Posts: 25,628
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by CookeKilledJFK View Post
Called it
Yah... I mentioned my doubts earlier today too. Not sure why anyone would think an occasional callup guy is going to keep the number over a guy like Neal.

Also your name is very inspiring. You need to post in the Most Overdue Thread Ever ™.

Darth Vitale is offline  
Old
02-22-2011, 04:08 PM
  #642
UnderratedBrooks44
Registered User
 
UnderratedBrooks44's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Miranda's house
Posts: 12,882
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by MtlPenFan View Post
Staalkin is happening whether people like it or not. Letestu isn't going to center any fourth line on this team.
You're probably right, even though it's completely retarded. I don't understand the Letestu comment.

UnderratedBrooks44 is offline  
Old
02-22-2011, 04:09 PM
  #643
cadow
Registered User
 
cadow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Monroeville PA
Country: United States
Posts: 5,344
vCash: 500
Yea lines for next year
Kunitz Crosby Neal
Tangradi Staal malkin
Cooke letestu Kennedy
Talbot Jeffery Adams
Woo!

cadow is offline  
Old
02-22-2011, 04:14 PM
  #644
Wickedtune
Registered User
 
Wickedtune's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Pittsburgh
Country: United States
Posts: 415
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by UnderratedBrooks44 View Post
Yeah I see no valid reason for Staal to play with Malkin right now unless you count gluttony. We can now have 3 legit lines as you said. Keep Staal with his usual and just fill the first two right wings with free agents or whoever from our current crops of 'eh' players.
I agree. I had no problems with the plan to play Malkin and Staal together because of our lack of wings this year. With now that we have Neal I'd rather see the big three down the middle. Without including new players I'd like to see something like this tried next year:

Kunitz-Crosby-Jeffrey
Neal-Malkin-Letestu
Cooke-Staal-Kennedy
Rupp-Vitale-Adams

Jeffrey and Letestu could be flip-flopped, but I like the idea of Letestu taking draws for Geno. I'd also be interested in maybe trying out Johnson or Sterling with Crosby. Jeffrey could center the fourth line then, and Vitale could stay in WBS another year. I just hope that Letestu can transition to wing, because I don't really see him as a fourth line player.

edit: I'll probably be flamed for wanting Bylsma's man-crush Rupp re-signed, but I do want someone with size who can drop the gloves if need be on the fourth line.

Wickedtune is offline  
Old
02-22-2011, 04:22 PM
  #645
Shady Machine
Registered User
 
Shady Machine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 13,458
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wickedtune View Post
I agree. I had no problems with the plan to play Malkin and Staal together because of our lack of wings this year. With now that we have Neal I'd rather see the big three down the middle. Without including new players I'd like to see something like this tried next year:

Kunitz-Crosby-Jeffrey
Neal-Malkin-Letestu
Cooke-Staal-Kennedy
Rupp-Vitale-Adams

Jeffrey and Letestu could be flip-flopped, but I like the idea of Letestu taking draws for Geno. I'd also be interested in maybe trying out Johnson or Sterling with Crosby. Jeffrey could center the fourth line then, and Vitale could stay in WBS another year. I just hope that Letestu can transition to wing, because I don't really see him as a fourth line player.

edit: I'll probably be flamed for wanting Bylsma's man-crush Rupp re-signed, but I do want someone with size who can drop the gloves if need be on the fourth line.
I agree with you on Rupp or someone similar actually. Although I'm not in love with Rupp on this team, I think we need a at least one big forward that can drop the gloves. While I agree a "fighter" like Godard isn't needed, we will want someone who can put on the ice when things get chippy. Rupp fills that void and he can still play (he has actually played quite well lately IMO). As long as he stops getting PP time I am happy with resigning him.

Shady Machine is offline  
Old
02-22-2011, 04:26 PM
  #646
MtlPenFan
Registered User
 
MtlPenFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 11,506
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by UnderratedBrooks44 View Post
You're probably right, even though it's completely retarded. I don't understand the Letestu comment.
I'm just saying that they didn't sign Letestu to play 8 minutes a game centering a fourth line. I get that they signed him way before we finally picked up a bona fide winger to change the team's dynamic, but Letestu isn't a fourth line player. Add to that: where does Jeffrey play?

I mean a lot of it depends on who else they pick up (if anyone) in the summer to fill in the role of scoring winger for whoever doesn't play with Neal, but I STILL don't get this messianic resistance to Malkin playing wing.

MtlPenFan is online now  
Old
02-22-2011, 04:32 PM
  #647
Shady Machine
Registered User
 
Shady Machine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 13,458
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by MtlPenFan View Post
I'm just saying that they didn't sign Letestu to play 8 minutes a game centering a fourth line. I get that they signed him way before we finally picked up a bona fide winger to change the team's dynamic, but Letestu isn't a fourth line player. Add to that: where does Jeffrey play?

I mean a lot of it depends on who else they pick up (if anyone) in the summer to fill in the role of scoring winger for whoever doesn't play with Neal, but I STILL don't get this messianic resistance to Malkin playing wing.
I guess what I don't get is why don't we just move Staal to wing then for people that want the Staalkin thing to happen. Staal is hardly better at faceoffs and had scored over 20 on the wing his rookie season with Malkin (I'm intentionally not including the 7 shorty's). I get that Staal is awesome defensively but Malkin has that ability to shown when he led the team in takeaways. I just think to say we are going to cater to Staal and even Letestu by keeping them at their natural positions over Malkin is absolutely ridiculous. I can accept first priority is Crosby, but it has to Malkin after that.

Shady Machine is offline  
Old
02-22-2011, 04:34 PM
  #648
Shady Machine
Registered User
 
Shady Machine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 13,458
vCash: 500
I should state that I don't want Staal on wing either just throwing it out there for people that want Staalkin. I prefer the big three down the middle now that we have Neal and then move Letestu up to top 6 wing and if he doesn't work there then 4th line center and PP time is just fine.

Shady Machine is offline  
Old
02-22-2011, 04:40 PM
  #649
UnderratedBrooks44
Registered User
 
UnderratedBrooks44's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Miranda's house
Posts: 12,882
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by MtlPenFan View Post
I'm just saying that they didn't sign Letestu to play 8 minutes a game centering a fourth line. I get that they signed him way before we finally picked up a bona fide winger to change the team's dynamic, but Letestu isn't a fourth line player. Add to that: where does Jeffrey play?

I mean a lot of it depends on who else they pick up (if anyone) in the summer to fill in the role of scoring winger for whoever doesn't play with Neal, but I STILL don't get this messianic resistance to Malkin playing wing.
To be honest I think they will play him wherever they want. $625k a year isn't exactly a commitment to slotting a guy in a certain place. Plus I don't see the logic in the main reason for Staal and Malkin playing together being that Letestu of all players "has" to player somewhere specific. Also in my opinion Jeffrey is already better than Letestu, he just needs more time to show it. Again, my opinion.

UnderratedBrooks44 is offline  
Old
02-22-2011, 04:40 PM
  #650
Mr Jiggyfly
Registered User
 
Mr Jiggyfly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 15,650
vCash: 500
Unless Tangradi gets traded like so many people are clamoring for right now..

The Tangradi Staal Malkin line is going to wreck teams on the forecheck one day.

It may not have happened this year with injuries to all 3, but it is coming.

Teams are going to to have their hands full trying to contain these three.

Mr Jiggyfly is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:32 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2014 All Rights Reserved.