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02-21-2011, 06:46 PM
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Lebrun and Mckenzie both think it is an even deal.


They say Goli is a top 4 offensive Dman who was playing behind other guys in Pitt yet still producing big and that Neal is a good player but not consistent enough.
Clearly Goligoski is a better d-man than Niskanen. But it's pretty laughable to say that Neal hasn't been consistent...well first he's still young. Consistency might be the last thing coming your way. But then as "unconsistent" he is....it's his 3rd consecutive year with more than 20 goals. I guess he has to find way to be a 30 goals, 25 assists type of player but give him Crosby and what do you think will happen....Not that Ribeiro or Richards were bad players but still...

I agree that Goligoski will bring Dallas something. But all and all, if something else might happen, is seeing Niskanen shine more in Pittsburgh than what he did in Dallas.

We'll see....but to me is a win for Pittsburgh. Lopsided might be harsh based on the fact that Goligoski will end up being better than just a warm body.

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Experts are saying how it is.

A) Puck moving defenseman are pricey.
B) Goligoski is underrated

You people have to understand that Brad Boyes was traded for Dennis Wideman and everyone went LOLWTF ? Boston is soooo stupid.

Brad Boyes probably won't finish the season with the Blues. Dennis Wideman helped the Bruins get Horton, AND Campbell.

Now, those saying it's massive overpayment don't understand how things work, which isn't a surprise.

"Oh yeah, I'd trade Weber, Kostitsyn and Kristo for Neal." So much better deal.

Kostitsyn - Negative value
Kristo - A decent prospect, but just that, a prospect.
Weber - Progressing nicely, but not in the same realm as Goligoski.

And that, folks, is why your offer of crap for Neal is that, crap.

It's about needs. When a team notices your needs, they'll make you pay. Plus, they live in reality, not hfboards where you people assume our crap will land, good, young players on other teams.
Stop making so much sense and being so rational, you are spoiling the boards.

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I think Niskanen can still be a consistent 30pts guy.

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02-21-2011, 06:55 PM
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I think Niskanen can still be a consistent 30pts guy.
So can Marc Andre Bergeron. Doesn't mean that he can make or break a trade.

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02-21-2011, 08:18 PM
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GRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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I would've traded pretty much anything but Subban, Price, Plekanec and Pacioretty for Stewart and Neal. With those two wingers, we'd be ****ing set in the top six as far as size and skill.

GRRRRRRRR

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I would've traded pretty much anything but Subban, Price, Plekanec and Pacioretty for Stewart and Neal. With those two wingers, we'd be ****ing set in the top six as far as size and skill.

GRRRRRRRR
Unfortunately we'd still have a gaping hole at 2C.

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Matt Niskanen has been the equivalent of Brian Lee since his rookie season.

A non factor !!

And we have no one equivalent to Goligoski on this line-up so there was no way Gauthier could've made this deal with Dallas, sorry to dissapoint you guys.

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02-21-2011, 08:40 PM
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I would've traded pretty much anything but Subban, Price, Plekanec and Pacioretty for Stewart and Neal. With those two wingers, we'd be ****ing set in the top six as far as size and skill.

GRRRRRRRR

The problem is... outside of the players you named, the Habs doesn't have any valuable player to trade... Maybe Pouliot, but not sure. Andrei Kostitsyn has no value at all IMO. And I want to keep Eller

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02-21-2011, 11:37 PM
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I've seen Goligoski much more often than Neal or Niskanen. The Penguins needed a forward lbecause of the injuries to Crosby and Malkin. IMO Neal will help the Pens and Niskanen will play regularly at D. As for Goligoski, I think he's a bit overrated. He's more of an O than a D type Dman and he has defensive weaknesses. (If anyone has vido of th first game between Pittsburgh and Montréal, check it out. To me, the Pens will benefit more from the trade.

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