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Operation: Get Drew Stafford/Steve Montador to Chicago

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02-23-2011, 12:39 AM
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Operation: Get Drew Stafford/Steve Montador to Chicago

What would it take?

Everyone is available except a few of the obvious guys, so that means no to the following:

- Duncan Keith
- Niklas Hjalmarsson (More so because we legally cannot trade him)
- Patrick Sharp (Just don't think he's going anywhere)
- Jonathan Toews
- Corey Crawford
- Brian Campbell
- Marian Hossa
- Patrick Kane

The only prospects I wouldn't trade would be Olsen, Morin or Leddy.

...and for Seabrook it would have to be really, really good like:

Get:
Brent Seabrook
Viktor Stalberg
Brandon Pirri

Get:
Drew Stafford
Steve Montador
Luke Adam


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02-23-2011, 12:53 AM
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Beach, Krüger and Lalonde could also not be had...

would be stupid


but it's not really hard... offer them 2nd Rounders and if they like it, say yes. No need to trade away something significant for rentals

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02-23-2011, 12:55 AM
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That offer for Seabrook doesn't see "really good"

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That offer for Seabrook doesn't see "really good"
Shhhhh.........

Buffalo would like a 2nd rd pick (Atlanta's) added and you have yourself a deal.

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That offer for Seabrook doesn't see "really good"
You're right, I think I have a higher opinion of Luke Adam than most do. I didn't want to attach any picks on but it's a good basis.

I would prefer something like this:

Get:
Michael Frolik
Troy Brouwer
Justin Holl
(+/- Give or take a pick)

Get:
Drew Stafford
Steve Montador

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you can have Montador for 2nd round pick

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If you're not giving up Beach, Buffalo isn't trading Stafford.

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Monty's value is a 2nd, so that's what that part of the deal would cost. Stafford? No reason to trade him uness they're getting a center or a good center prospect, so the package will have to start with Kruger. The Sabres would also probably want Beach in that package. Still, we're not rebuilding, so the Sabres may want a roster player, as well.

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you won't get Krüger or Beach for Stafford...

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Then clearly this discussion is over.

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you won't get Krüger or Beach for Stafford...
lolwut?

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lolwut?
HFboards. Picks > Prospects > NHLers.

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As a Sabres fan, I take that Seabrook deal every day this week.

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you won't get Krüger or Beach for Stafford...
Well your not getting a guy who is 6'2, 25 years old and has 24 goals in 40 games for your garbage. No deal, beach +1st for Stafford minimum.

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Hawks have no need to trade this players away for Rentals. Hawks couldn't afford Stafford longterm, why should we give you our future for this?


This has nothing to do with Prospects > Proven NHL Talent. This has something to do with Salary Cap and longterm plans. Stafford wouldn't be a part of this. Hawks need young and CHEAP Players that may turn out as good a we hope it. Too much money already on longterm deals, you should know this.


Everyone who disagrees should think about our Situations. Ask the Bruins if they want to give you Caron for Stafford, makes the same sense as our Top Prospects.


BTW. I don't want Stafford. We have Toews and Bolland the next few years + Krüger waiting for his NHL debut. If not him, we can sign FAs for 1 year or get Sharp back to Center. This just makes no sense for us if we have to trade our Top Prospects away. We can talk about our 1st and our 2nd Rounders.

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Montador for Brouwer straight up? Or how much more would it take?

I know management doesn't want rentals right now, but at least Brouwer would still be an RFA. He also seems to exemplify the sort of player Pegula wants to bring into the fold.


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we are not trading stafford and certainly not for anything less than a first and third or first and GOOD prospect.


he would garner that in an offer sheet. he's worth more to the sabres.

he and vanek are going to anchor our top line for years to come. just wait until our new center arrives

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We should probably leave Stafford out of this and just talk about Montador.

What would Hawks fans give up for Montador?

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BTW. I don't want Stafford. We have Toews and Bolland the next few years + Krüger waiting for his NHL debut. If not him, we can sign FAs for 1 year or get Sharp back to Center. This just makes no sense for us if we have to trade our Top Prospects away. We can talk about our 1st and our 2nd Rounders.
Stafford isn't a Center....

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We should probably leave Stafford out of this and just talk about Montador.

What would Hawks fans give up for Montador?
a 2nd

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Well your not getting a guy who is 6'2, 25 years old and has 24 goals in 40 games for your garbage. No deal, beach +1st for Stafford minimum.
You kinda have to look at it through both team's perspectives.

Chicago isn't a rebuilding team, so they don't value Prospects as much as an Edmonton or NYI, in saying that, they are a cap team who surely will not trade good young prospects on ELCs for inconsistent goal scorers about to be RFA's. This is only the 2nd time Stafford has been a 20 goal man in his 5 year career to date. Doesn't he also have 3-4 hattricks this season? So that's 9-12 goals in 3-4 games and 12-15 goals in the 36/37 other games this season.

As far as Montador, I would definately give up one of CHI's 2nd rounders for him.

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I'm not speaking about this specific proposal...but as for Hawks prospects being untouchable? I don't think any are. I like these guys also, but let's be real. They aren't grade a blue chippers we are talking about. Not even close. I would agree that it would take a huge deal to pry Leddy away, and to a lesser extent Morin.

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As a Sabres fan, I take that Seabrook deal every day this week.
Pretty much this. Hawks don't even need to add, IMO.

I'd trade pretty much any package the Hawks might want for Seabrook. They aren't going to ask for Myers (could just keep Seabrook), Vanek or Miller (too expensive though they fit needs), or Roy (injured). And if the Hawks wanted Vanek, Miller, or Roy, I'm still listening.

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Doesn't he also have 3-4 hattricks this season? So that's 9-12 goals in 3-4 games and 12-15 goals in the 36/37 other games this season.
I suggest you go look at how players such as Franzen and Semin get their goal totals...

goal scorers score in bunches

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You kinda have to look at it through both team's perspectives.

Chicago isn't a rebuilding team, so they don't value Prospects as much as an Edmonton or NYI, in saying that, they are a cap team who surely will not trade good young prospects on ELCs for inconsistent goal scorers about to be RFA's. This is only the 2nd time Stafford has been a 20 goal man in his 5 year career to date. Doesn't he also have 3-4 hattricks this season? So that's 9-12 goals in 3-4 games and 12-15 goals in the 36/37 other games this season.

As far as Montador, I would definately give up one of CHI's 2nd rounders for him.
you cant be serious about Stafford, can you? The kid is only 25 years old, a power winger who took a bit of time to develope his game. Who cares if he is a RFA, the kid is scoring goals in all types of fashion. He has scored double digit goals since he came into the league, and is finally looking like a dominant goal scorer.

I would land Stafford in a heartbeat if it meant Kruger and Lalonde going the other way. Some of you people value unproven prospects more then a 25 year old who has played in the NHL the past 5 seasons.

and epic fail on the hat trick comment...who cares how many hat tricks he has, its not his fault he scores in bunches.

I would package a deal with Kruger, Lalonde, and Frolik to Buffalo for Stafford and Montador. And those that say we cant afford Stafford, well thats not true as we can easily move a few pieces around next year to make room for him.

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