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List of Potential Center targets

I'd like to hear everyone's opinion on potential center targets for the trade deadline, as well as the offseason via trade. These should be players that YOU think COULD be available, whether because of team situations, cap considerations, rebuilds, or even media reports...obviously no need for the Crosby, Backstrom, Kesler, Stamkos, etc types

I'll start with:
1. Paul Stastny
2. Jarrett Stoll
3. Brad Richards
4. Derrick Brassard
5. Stephen Weiss

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Patrik Berglund, I'd put him in there over Weiss

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I'd like to hear everyone's opinion on potential center targets for the trade deadline, as well as the offseason via trade. These should be players that YOU think COULD be available, whether because of team situations, cap considerations, rebuilds, or even media reports...obviously no need for the Crosby, Backstrom, Kesler, Stamkos, etc types

I'll start with:
1. Paul Stastny
2. Jarrett Stoll
3. Brad Richards
4. Derrick Brassard
5. Stephen Weiss
That's a good list with the exception of Weiss - I just think he's the same kind of underachieving-type like Connolly and someone who gets his points each year in non-critical junctures of games. He doesn't bring any size or special speed of note IMO.

My variation of the list:
1. Stastny
2. Richards
3. Pavelski
4. Stoll
5. Gagner
6. Brassard
7. Vermette

As to how "available" or not any of the above are, that always seems subjective and impossible to predict. How many of us ever thought Neal, Johnson or Stewart were avaliable prior to this week?

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Patrik Berglund, I'd put him in there over Weiss
I feel like he's a cornerstone of their franchise.

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Yeah Berglund isn't going anywhere. I like Jame's original list, I'd add Brian Boyle as a potential offseason target if the Rangers get Richards and get tight on the cap.

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That's a good list with the exception of Weiss - I just think he's the same kind of underachieving-type like Connolly and someone who gets his points each year in non-critical junctures of games. He doesn't bring any size or special speed of note IMO.

My variation of the list:
1. Stastny
2. Richards
3. Pavelski
4. Stoll
5. Gagner
6. Brassard
7. Vermette

As to how "available" or not any of the above are, that always seems subjective and impossible to predict. How many of us ever thought Neal, Johnson or Stewart were avaliable prior to this week?
Im not a Weiss fan either... I'm just looking for Center's that people think could be available. Whether you like the player or not.

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I feel like he's a cornerstone of their franchise.
Yeah, he likely is but I wouldn't think Col would trade Stastny either, even with Duchene up-and-coming. I mean, can you imagine if we had those two guys? I'd hang on to them like grim death.

Same with Brassard really, why in the world would you trade someone like him.

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Other candidates of various stripes:

Brad Richardson, LA
Antoine Vermette, CBJ
Vladimir Sobotka, StL
Daniel Winnik, COL
Kevin Porter, COL
Colin Fraser, EDM
Mathieu Perreault, WAS
Marcus Johansson, WAS
Codey Eakin, WAS
Brandon Pirri , CHI

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I feel like he's a cornerstone of their franchise.
I think Brassard is a bigger piece of the puzzle in C'Bus than Berglund is in St Louis.

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I'd be VERY interested in Boyle, and think he would fit in a very small window of potential offersheet targets. (i think to be in that window, the team owning the rights must have a cap situation, and the offer can't cost more then a 2nd rounder).

The Rangers have around 15 million in cap space next year... but Dubinsky, Callahan, and Anisimov are all RFA and ALL are probably higher priorities.

They also only have 4 NHL defensemen signed for next year, and 2 of those 4 are youngsters.

AND.. they are going to throw the world at Richards...

Boyle is a prime target for an offersheet.

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I think Brassard is a bigger piece of the puzzle in C'Bus than Berglund is in St Louis.
I think they have pretty much the same value... arguing one or the other is a difference of a few pennies...

However, I think St Louis is a little more well rounded in roster assets, while Columbus has Center depth, and big holes on the blue line and in net. In that sense, I'd say Brassard is "slightly more available"

But the reality is that I'm just a super duper Brassard fan... so I fail to apply logic, and emotion takes over

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Other candidates of various stripes:

Brad Richardson, LA
Antoine Vermette, CBJ
Vladimir Sobotka, StL
Daniel Winnik, COL
Kevin Porter, COL
Colin Fraser, EDM
Mathieu Perreault, WAS
Marcus Johansson, WAS
Codey Eakin, WAS
Brandon Pirri , CHI
I would love to pry a guy like Eakin out for rentals...

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I'm done with guys who don't contribute when they're not scoring. To me, that rules out Weiss and Gagner. Assuming we want to keep Vanek and Roy separate, I think Stoll or Vermette would be the most realistic options.

Give Vanek a two-way center who can hold his own offensively. Vanek-Stoll-Pominville could be a very affective line, IMO.

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If we could somehow bring Soboka in to torment the Bruins I'd be all for it.

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I would love to pry a guy like Eakin out for rentals...
Same, even if they have to kick in a mid-rounder or something to get it done.

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Yeah, he likely is but I wouldn't think Col would trade Stastny either, even with Duchene up-and-coming. I mean, can you imagine if we had those two guys? I'd hang on to them like grim death.

Same with Brassard really, why in the world would you trade someone like him.
I dont understand the Stastny rumors... and the only reason I have him on the list is because of the Media rumors... it makes no sense to me... if he IS available... I'd put a filthy, too good to turn down, proposal on the table.

Stastny=Toews agree?

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I'd be VERY interested in Boyle, and think he would fit in a very small window of potential offersheet targets. (i think to be in that window, the team owning the rights must have a cap situation, and the offer can't cost more then a 2nd rounder).

The Rangers have around 15 million in cap space next year... but Dubinsky, Callahan, and Anisimov are all RFA and ALL are probably higher priorities.

They also only have 4 NHL defensemen signed for next year, and 2 of those 4 are youngsters.

AND.. they are going to throw the world at Richards...

Boyle is a prime target for an offersheet.
Rather than pay the big bucks for an offersheet, they could make a fair offer for him in trade and then negotiate in good faith. If Boyle then gets a massive offersheet from somewhere else, take the picks and move on to another trade target. Heck, they'd probably be "up" in the deal from a moveable-asset point of view.

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I dont understand the Stastny rumors... and the only reason I have him on the list is because of the Media rumors... it makes no sense to me... if he IS available... I'd put a filthy, too good to turn down, proposal on the table.

Stastny=Toews agree?
Agreed, I'd rather have Stastny to be honest, but that's because I love Stastny and I'm not a fan of Toews, and because I think Toews is extremely overrated because of his "intangibles". Toews is better defensively but Stastny isn't a slouch and puts up 10-15 more points than Toews does normally.

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So, would Ennis be in play for some of these guys?

I'd (in general) take a young franchise center over a young franchise winger. So say you believe Ennis will reach his high ceiling, would you deal him for a young center signed long term or available to be signed long term?

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Same, even if they have to kick in a mid-rounder or something to get it done.
What do you think of Benn Ferriero in San Jose/Worcester ?

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I'm no prognosticator, but I feel as though Brooks Laich should be a name we keep an eye on in July.

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I think they have pretty much the same value... arguing one or the other is a difference of a few pennies...

However, I think St Louis is a little more well rounded in roster assets, while Columbus has Center depth, and big holes on the blue line and in net. In that sense, I'd say Brassard is "slightly more available"

But the reality is that I'm just a super duper Brassard fan... so I fail to apply logic, and emotion takes over
That's what I was trying to get at gingerly.



I'm guessing that it's a year or two before C'bus would really contemplate moving Brassard unless the offer were stupid.

I think the Sabres are more likely to try and make a move with a team that has budget/cap issues.

Like perhaps trying to get Riberio if Richards re-signs with the Stars or something like that.

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So, would Ennis be in play for some of these guys?

I'd (in general) take a young franchise center over a young franchise winger. So say you believe Ennis will reach his high ceiling, would you deal him for a young center signed long term?
for the high end names, like Stastny...ABSOLUTELY (and i like Ennis A LOT)... but we are talking about a cornerstone type of top 6 center

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