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02-25-2011, 10:58 AM
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No from the avs ... again ...

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Fair value, imo.

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Quantity =/= Quality

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Make it stop!

I was about to say the same thing

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k hows the value then?

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I was about to say the same thing
There should seriously just be a "Stastny Proposals" thread stickied until hes traded or the deadline is done, theres probably 15 different threads on the first 2 pages.

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and where do we put his salary?

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That's a lot to pay for Montréal, I don't think Stastny is worth all of this to us, honestly.

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and where do we put his salary?
I was just doing value gauge, obviously if this was to occur we'd have to trade gomez somewhere or waive him

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That's a lot to pay for Montréal, I don't think Stastny is worth all of this to us, honestly.
2 mid to late 1's a small ass dman and a centre with 10 points is to much to pay for stastny? might wanna put that crack pipe down.

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I was just doing value gauge, obviously if this was to occur we'd have to trade gomez somewhere or waive him
it's too much.


and to those with the Quality/Quantity argument is starting to get old too. 2 1st rd picks, a former 1st rd pick (on an ELC and progressing) and a young inexpensive PMD is both quality and quantity

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2 mid to late 1's a small ass dman and a centre with 10 points is to much to pay for stastny? might wanna put that crack pipe down.
Its not like there 35+ players, there young players on ELC

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and to those with the Quality/Quantity argument is starting to get old too. 2 1st rd picks, a former 1st rd pick (on an ELC and progressing) and a young inexpensive PMD is both quality and quantity
Stastny is 25 and has 312 points in 333 games, and we are gonna move him for another PMD we dont need, a centre who isnt going to be as good as stastny and 2 mid to late 1st round picks? We already have Liles and we are trying to get rid of him, a PMD is not what we need for our backend.

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it's too much.


and to those with the Quality/Quantity argument is starting to get old too. 2 1st rd picks, a former 1st rd pick (on an ELC and progressing) and a young inexpensive PMD is both quality and quantity
Except we dont want a center who needs to be built up again. Whats the point of trading Stastny if the center we get has a best, the POTENTIAL to be Stastny. I doubt eller will ever be a PPG center. And Weber, we already have 3 or 4 guys in the minors EXACTLY like Weber. Not to mention we have 2 or 3 guys in our lineup who play the same style.

Its very simple. The rumored trade around Stastny was Jack Johnson, Jonathan Bernier, and Stoll. JJ is light years ahead of Weber. Bernier is one of the top 2 goaltending prospects and Stoll is an underrated 2nd line center who does not require time to develop.

Do you see the complete difference in the proposals now. Your trade involves all hopefuls. The LA trade includes proven commodities (JJ and Stoll) and a top notch goalie prospect.

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and to those with the Quality/Quantity argument is starting to get old too. 2 1st rd picks, a former 1st rd pick (on an ELC and progressing) and a young inexpensive PMD is both quality and quantity
No, it's really not. The first's aren't idle, they are not going to help Colorado win for several years, maybe not at all. Weber is probably the best player coming back, but we don't need depth defencemen, Colorado will have about 3-4 similar players coming though the system in the next 2 to 3 years. Eller and his 10pts are not exactly attractive.

Try offering up something useful and beneficial to Colorado. This offer does not exactly meet their needs.

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Your assessment of Eller and Weber is completely off.

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2 mid to late 1's a small ass dman and a centre with 10 points is to much to pay for stastny? might wanna put that crack pipe down.
A 21 years old center with the potential to be as good as Stastny (or close).

Might wanna know what you are talking about. Not saying you should do it or not but your post was total garbage.

Pass from the Habs.

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A 21 years old center with the potential to be as good as Stastny (or close).

Might wanna know what you are talking about. Not saying you should do it or not but your post was total garbage.

Pass from the Habs.
When Stastny was 21 he was putting up 70+ points. Nothing in Eller's past suggests he will come close to producing at that level.

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No, it's really not. The first's aren't idle, they are not going to help Colorado win for several years, maybe not at all. Weber is probably the best player coming back, but we don't need depth defencemen, Colorado will have about 3-4 similar players coming though the system in the next 2 to 3 years. Eller and his 10pts are not exactly attractive.

Try offering up something useful and beneficial to Colorado. This offer does not exactly meet their needs.
At no point did I mention it met the needs of Colorado. But, it is too much to pay for MTL. The Canadiens' don't have a very deep prospect pool to begin with, add in the Gomez contract and that makes alot of fans cry. And Eller may have 10pts, but it is very hard to score much at all playing an avg of 7mins a game with checking line types or on Gomez's wing for a shift or two.

Thankfully pro scouts don't use hockey DB to do their scouting.

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A 21 years old center with the potential to be as good as Stastny (or close).

Might wanna know what you are talking about. Not saying you should do it or not but your post was total garbage.

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Stastny had 78 points in 82 games his first season with the avs when he was 20 and hes still almost a PPG top line Centre. Eller has 10 points in 57 games. We dont need the 3rd round PMD. The 2 1st as said may or may not help out the avs in the future, this is not good value for Stastny

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If i was new to this board and didn't know anything about the NHL, i'd think Stastny was far superior than Gretzky, with all this proposals.

But, this is the HF, where players get overrated way too much, more so than anywhere else where there is hockey talk.

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At no point did I mention it met the needs of Colorado. But, it is too much to pay for MTL. The Canadiens' don't have a very deep prospect pool to begin with, add in the Gomez contract and that makes alot of fans cry. And Eller may have 10pts, but it is very hard to score much at all playing an avg of 7mins a game with checking line types or on Gomez's wing for a shift or two.

Thankfully pro scouts don't use hockey DB to do their scouting.

Did you even consider there is a reason he is only playing 7 minutes a night?

If the proposal doesn't meet really any of Colorado's needs then how do you consider it quality?

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Stastny is very good.... but he's not THAT good.

I don't think i'd mortgage that many assets for 1 guy unless they are named Crosby.

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