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02-25-2011, 07:11 PM
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Larsson and Strome will be on that list come next year 1 and 2 respectively.


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What do the letters represent? (I.E. 7.5B)
The rating means Lehner's upside is somewhere between #1 goalie and #1B goalie but he can fall a total of 1 rating to 6.5 which is between backup and #1B goalie. Basically, Lehner's an NHL goalie, at least a regular backup (as of right now) but with the ability to be a good #1 goalie. Seems fair for a 19 year old.

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Caporusso's "Love Expert" video. Pretty funny. Are you an expert?


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Caporusso at #6? The hell?
He's actually an extremely talented forward. Who knows if he's in the Sens future plans, but in terms of talent, he's near the top in our forward crop. Maybe 6 is a bit too high, but if we're talking about top end potential, his is a lot higher than most other Sens forwards.

How many on here have seen him play?


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02-25-2011, 10:38 PM
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Cowen is a 8.0C, the writer made a typo

EDIT: nvm they didnt update his profile it seems
Colburne got an 8.0c thats nuts JOB looks better than that big marshmallow and he gets a 6.5 cNo bias on the leafs pool of prospects at all

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Caporusso's "Love Expert" video. Pretty funny. Are you an expert?
Also, here he is on ESPN First Take talking about it.

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He's actually an extremely talented forward. Who knows if he's in the Sens future plans, but in terms of talent, he's near the top in our forward crop. Maybe 6 is a bit too high, but if we're talking about top end potential, his is a lot higher than most other Sens forwards.

How many on here have seen him play?
I have seen him 3-4 times 2 years ago and I admit he was impressive. He seemed like he was the one carrying his team, giving his 100% at both ends of the ice. He seems to have stalled though. He needs to turn pro to see where he stands. Way too early to give up on him so we should take our time with him


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Colburne got an 8.0c thats nuts JOB looks better than that big marshmallow and he gets a 6.5 cNo bias on the leafs pool of prospects at all

According to Pierre McGuire....Colbourne has the talent, but the desire is in question. 8.0D might be a more accurate grade.

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02-25-2011, 11:28 PM
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According to Pierre McGuire....Colbourne has the talent, but the desire is in question. 8.0D might be a more accurate grade.
That's fair.

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02-25-2011, 11:30 PM
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Colburne got an 8.0c thats nuts JOB looks better than that big marshmallow and he gets a 6.5 cNo bias on the leafs pool of prospects at all
Colborne is a better prospect, that's why.

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02-25-2011, 11:51 PM
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Colborne is a better prospect, that's why.
The same level as cowenHe played in a weak league in junior and his knock back then is the same as it is now soft .He has been in the minors for what three years and hasnt made much progress in that department ,his point totals are lower than our b level prospect in JOB but he is an 8.0c yeah right

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Minors for 3 years? This is his first year in the AHL. He was in the NCAA the last two years on the same team as Wiercioch. If you're going to bag on someone, at least have a little knowledge about him.

And you realize O'Brien looked like a complete bust until this year, right?

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02-26-2011, 12:02 AM
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The grades are poor thats all iam saying ,7.0D for butler come on there is no way he deserves an 8,0 c .And sorry about the mistake on his years in the ahl but when the trade was made i could have sworn the team 1200 mentioned something like this

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The same level as cowenHe played in a weak league in junior and his knock back then is the same as it is now soft .He has been in the minors for what three years and hasnt made much progress in that department ,his point totals are lower than our b level prospect in JOB but he is an 8.0c yeah right
Cowen is actually 8.0B they didnt update his [profile though for some reason

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02-26-2011, 12:19 AM
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The grades are poor thats all iam saying ,7.0D for butler come on there is no way he deserves an 8,0 c .And sorry about the mistake on his years in the ahl but when the trade was made i could have sworn the team 1200 mentioned something like this
Butler's probably more like a 7.5 C or D.

You are quite the homer though.

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02-26-2011, 12:20 AM
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Cowen is actually 8.0B they didnt update his [profile though for some reason
I know iam over reacting and that is a fair grade for cowen but it just seems that every leaf fan has notion that we have nothing coming up as players , and them getting this colburne kid has made them even more arogant.

Iam sorry if i cheesed anyone off, i just hate that some of our kids never get mentioned or are so badly underated


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02-26-2011, 12:22 AM
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Butler's probably more like a 7.5 C or D.

You are quite the homer though.
Iam sick of all the, sens dont have what the leafs have coming up b.s. Yeah i guess that post did sound homerish excuse me about that


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I really like hockeysfuture but sometimes they let me wondering. The top 5 is good but Caporusso over Butler and Stone at 18? Come on.

In the organizational rankings they had the Leafs at 12 and us at 16 and Colorado at 21. And that was before the Leafs got Colborne, Gardiner and Colorado traded Shattenkirk. I am wondering if a Leaf fan made that list.

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You guys shouldn't worry much. 5 years ago, I tought HF was like the bible of hockey prospects but I'm not even folllowing it outside of these threads anymore...

You can find some interesting info maybe but those rankings and grades leaves a lot to be desired. How can a system with people not working together but all in their own bubbles could work and make sense in the end?

Different people give the grades. Leafs prospects are always "best-case scenario" it seems while for Sens prospects, it is very "conservative"...

The fact that the Leafs were 12th while we were 16th the last time (so before Gardiner and Colborne) means you shouldn't put much stock into this...

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You guys shouldn't worry much. 5 years ago, I tought HF was like the bible of hockey prospects but I'm not even folllowing it outside of these threads anymore...

You can find some interesting info maybe but those rankings and grades leaves a lot to be desired. How can a system with people not working together but all in their own bubbles could work and make sense in the end?

Different people give the grades. Leafs prospects are always "best-case scenario" it seems while for Sens prospects, it is very "conservative"...

The fact that the Leafs were 12th while we were 16th the last time (so before Gardiner and Colborne) means you shouldn't put much stock into this...
Which site would you view as a more accurate resource?Redline or a hockey news?

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Iam sick of all the, sens dont have what the leafs have coming up b.s. Yeah i guess that post did sound homerish excuse me about that
At least it doesn't rub me the wrong way like the Debbie Downers on the board.

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Different people give the grades. Leafs prospects are always "best-case scenario" it seems while for Sens prospects, it is very "conservative"...
When I first came I was always surprised at how conservative we were.

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Which site would you view as a more accurate resource?Redline or a hockey news?
I really don't know. Each site should be taken with a grain of salt

Read as much as you can (even HF) and condense all the info you have into your own judgements.

And don't take everything you read too seriously, hockey is not an exact science. Always have in mind that a person make those judgments with his own eyes. The best thing would be to watch the player play on top of all that


Hockey news, Hockey Future, Dobberhockey, McKeens, Elite Prospects, HockeyProspect

http://www.dobberhockey.com/index.ph...id=26:rankings

http://www.eliteprospects.com/

http://www.hockeyprospect.com/

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I really don't know. Each site should be taken with a grain of salt

Read as much as you can (even HF) and condense all the info you have into your own judgements.

And don't take everything you read too seriously, hockey is not an exact science. Always have in mind that a person make those judgments with his own eyes. The best thing would be to watch the player play on top of all that


Hockey news, Hockey Future, Dobberhockey, McKeens, Elite Prospects, HockeyProspect

http://www.dobberhockey.com/index.ph...id=26:rankings

http://www.eliteprospects.com/

http://www.hockeyprospect.com/
Yep sound advice i think ottawa is in a good position moving forward,haters be damnned

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I really don't know. Each site should be taken with a grain of salt

Read as much as you can (even HF) and condense all the info you have into your own judgements.

And don't take everything you read too seriously, hockey is not an exact science. Always have in mind that a person make those judgments with his own eyes. The best thing would be to watch the player play on top of all that


Hockey news, Hockey Future, Dobberhockey, McKeens, Elite Prospects, HockeyProspect

http://www.dobberhockey.com/index.ph...id=26:rankings

http://www.eliteprospects.com/

http://www.hockeyprospect.com/
My List also includes:

http://premiumscouting.com/

http://futureconsiderationsdotca.wordpress.com/

http://www.thescoutingreport.org/pro...endan-kichton/

http://centralscouting.nhl.com/

Unfortunately no longer active, but has up to 2010 info from Redline's former WHL Scout:
http://nhldraftnotes.blogspot.com/


Goalies:
http://thegoalieguild.com/

for stats:
http://www.collegehockeystats.net/0809/teamstats/all
http://www.hockeydb.com/

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