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02-27-2011, 12:57 AM
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Because the Leafs should probably be looking for a top line center, I guess it would be good to take a look around the league and determine who is, and isn't capable of centering the top line of a contending team.

I'm just going to throw some names out there of guys I think are fit for that job. I'm not saying these are all realistic targets, just something to reference.
  • Sidney Crosby
  • Evgeni Malkin
  • Pavel Datsyuk
  • Henrik Sedin
  • Brad Richards
  • Anze Kopitar
  • Eric Staal
  • Jonathan Toews
  • Ryan Kesler
  • Mike Richards
  • Joe Thornton
  • Paul Stastny
  • Nicklas Backstrom
  • Ryan Getzlaf
  • Jason Spezza
  • Jeff Carter
I italicized those who have already been a top line center on a cup winner.

I left out guys like:
  • Mikko Koivu
  • Patrice Bergeron
  • Vincent Lecavalier
  • Derek Roy
  • Tomas Plekanec
  • David Krejci
  • John Tavares
  • Matt Duchene
  • Mike Ribeiro
  • Joe Pavelski
  • Stephen Weiss
  • Travis Zajac
For various reasons such as age, drop off in playing level, or from being unproven.

This is just meant to be an open look at the good centers around the league. Feel free to mention who may be missing from either list, or who you think belongs/doesn't belong. Also, I'd like to know who everyone would most like to target based on difficulty to acquire and how they would fit with this team.

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02-27-2011, 12:59 AM
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That is just about the worst deal in the world for the Avs to make...
Shhhh

Mike Komisarek is a former all-star, and frankly....Reimer has shown flashes of Dominik Hasek in his prime, and he's still young. It's a great trade, Avs fans, we promise....you can sign right here. Quickly, please.

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02-27-2011, 02:06 AM
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Because the Leafs should probably be looking for a top line center, I guess it would be good to take a look around the league and determine who is, and isn't capable of centering the top line of a contending team.

I'm just going to throw some names out there of guys I think are fit for that job. I'm not saying these are all realistic targets, just something to reference.
  • Sidney Crosby
  • Evgeni Malkin
  • Pavel Datsyuk
  • Henrik Sedin
  • Brad Richards
  • Anze Kopitar
  • Eric Staal
  • Jonathan Toews
  • Ryan Kesler
  • Mike Richards
  • Joe Thornton
  • Paul Stastny
  • Nicklas Backstrom
  • Ryan Getzlaf
  • Jason Spezza
  • Jeff Carter
I italicized those who have already been a top line center on a cup winner.

I left out guys like:
  • Mikko Koivu
  • Patrice Bergeron
  • Vincent Lecavalier
  • Derek Roy
  • Tomas Plekanec
  • David Krejci
  • John Tavares
  • Matt Duchene
  • Mike Ribeiro
  • Joe Pavelski
  • Stephen Weiss
  • Travis Zajac
For various reasons such as age, drop off in playing level, or from being unproven.

This is just meant to be an open look at the good centers around the league. Feel free to mention who may be missing from either list, or who you think belongs/doesn't belong. Also, I'd like to know who everyone would most like to target based on difficulty to acquire and how they would fit with this team.
If your gonna italicize Brad Richards as a top line center who won a cup, you might as well italicize Evgeny Malkin as well. They both won a cup as the 2nd line center, and also both got the Conn Smythe.

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02-27-2011, 03:16 AM
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If Burke could pull this off, i would turn my playstation off and go to sleep.

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02-27-2011, 04:36 AM
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This is one of those deals where I would have to turn my heart off and just make the deal with my brain. I like Komisarek and Reimer has brought me a lot of joy in such a brief period but Statsny is amazing at dishing the puck. Also, hopefully it would eliminate the need for every other proposal here to include the name' Brad Richards'.

I've never seen Rynnas play but I've read enough posts saying that he might be the better goalie to wonder if it's true. If it is, I guess we can afford to pass up on Reimer but I would love to see these two duel it out with Monster to see who the better goalies are and just use them in tandem.

It really is a good deal but it would suck if we end up trading away another potential franchise goalie...but then again we could be trading away another Raycroft...

I know Liles is a good PMD but I simply don't understand why Burke is solely focused on acquiring him. I liked the McCabe deal for the NYR, it was a cheap price that Burke could have easily afforded. I think it would be pretty cool to have #24 back to help us down the stretch for a playoff run (preparing myself for inevitable flaming).

Also, is anyone else annoyed at Burke losing Kaberle and IMMEDIATELY starting a search for a new PMD while we haven't had a top-line centre since Sundin era. I know landing Toew's is harder than getting struck by lightening but Hell, we still haven't even replaced Matt Stajan!

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02-27-2011, 07:16 AM
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wow Komi must be one hell of a leader the locker room, he's worth about 1 to 1.5 on the ice so he makes up the 75% of his contract in leadership. They should just make him a coach

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02-27-2011, 07:34 AM
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wow Komi must be one hell of a leader the locker room, he's worth about 1 to 1.5 on the ice so he makes up the 75% of his contract in leadership. They should just make him a coach
If intangibles can make Toews the third best player in the league, they can make Komisarek worth his salary

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02-27-2011, 07:43 AM
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Regarding this TMLinsight character. Not a source at all. Just a Leafs fan (a very biased one at that) who parrots things that he hears on TSN. He's also the only person in the world who has said Burke put in an offer on Jordan Staal

http://tmlinsight.weebly.com/nhl-rumors.html

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02-27-2011, 08:25 AM
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The best Twitter guy I ever found was a guy who would juts put out ridiculous proposals and then comment on them as if they were actually real.

He had a disclaimer that said something like

"I like to muse about NHL deals. These are not real" Yet he would report them like they were!

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Thanks for the heads-up on TMLinsight, how's Dallas Dave's credibility?

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02-27-2011, 09:08 AM
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Thanks for the heads-up on TMLinsight, how's Dallas Dave's credibility?
Slightly better than Eklund.

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02-27-2011, 09:22 AM
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Liles, 30, has a limited no-trade clause and has submitted a list of up to 18 teams that he will not accept a deal to.

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"It's crazy," Liles told the Denver Post. "I got a call the other night that it was reported in Toronto that I had been traded (to the Maple Leafs). I was at dinner and that was kind of crazy. Fortunately, now, it didn't turn out to be true. Trades happen; it's the nature of the business. If I do end up getting traded, I'm going to play hard for whoever I get traded to. If I don't get traded, I'm going to play hard for Colorado."

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/col110226.html

Not much new information but at least Toronto seems to be one of the eleven clubs he would waive his NTC for.

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02-27-2011, 10:12 AM
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wideman ?

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02-27-2011, 10:18 AM
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Lower cap hit, and also younger by a few years.

Could make some sense.

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Lower cap hit, and also younger by a few years.

Could make some sense.
Though he possesses an element we're lacking on the back end, adding another defenseman who plays on the right side seems a little redundant.

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02-27-2011, 10:34 AM
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Though he possesses an element we're lacking on the back end, adding another defenseman who plays on the right side seems a little redundant.
True. Didn't think of that.

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02-27-2011, 10:37 AM
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Take it for what you will, but if this is on the table I say Burke needs to do it. We get our number one center and our puck moving defenseman. It hurts to lose Reimer, but with the Avs willing take on Komi's contract, and our depth in goaltending, this trade is a no brainer. Hopefully Giggy or Gus will step it up and help anchor our boys to the playoffs, if not, then this deal will be worth it in the long run anyways.

This makes MacArthur extremely expendable, and Burke knows this...might be the reason why we haven't seen a Liles deal or a MacArthur extension yet, as we all know Burke likes to do things in sequence. In my opinion, if things happen how Burke wants them too, we'll see this deal pulled off, followed shortly by a MacArthur trade. IMO Philly knows that if it is going to win a cup, it's going to be this year...I don't know how accurate this is, but why not do a MacArthur for Van Riemsdyk deal...

In the off-season, Burke should take a serious run at Ilya Bryzgalov or Thomas Voukon to shore up our goaltending situation.

Here is the team next year:

Kadri_Stastny_Kessel (****ING UNREAL)
Kulemin_Grabovski_Lupul
Van Riemsdyk_Boyce_Armstrong
Rosehill_Brent_Orr

Phaneuf_Liles
Schenn_Aulie
Gunnarson_Holzer
Lebda

Bryzgalov
Gustavsson

Looks like a contender, but then again I'm completely stoned right now so this might not make sense
I don't see that happening. Ever. Colorado gives up so much for so little its incredible. And the source is as un-credible as they come.

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02-27-2011, 10:40 AM
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What's the deal with MacArthur? Haven't heard anything for a few days. Is he going to be dealt?

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Van Rymsdyk for Macarthur?? Are you serious?? If Holmgren did that deal he would be tarred and feathered- that would never happen.

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What's the deal with MacArthur? Haven't heard anything for a few days. Is he going to be dealt?
I think what is happening is over the course of the past few days Burke is trying to figure out how much Macarthur wants. If its reasonable for money and length of the contract Burke will just keep him and try and work out a contract after the deadline, getting closer to the draft. If Macarthur wants lots of money or term then Burke will really look hard at what he has been offered for Macarthur.

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Van Rymsdyk for Macarthur?? Are you serious?? If Holmgren did that deal he would be tarred and feathered- that would never happen.
Who said that?

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Liles, 30, has a limited no-trade clause and has submitted a list of up to 18 teams that he will not accept a deal to.

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"It's crazy," Liles told the Denver Post. "I got a call the other night that it was reported in Toronto that I had been traded (to the Maple Leafs). I was at dinner and that was kind of crazy. Fortunately, now, it didn't turn out to be true. Trades happen; it's the nature of the business. If I do end up getting traded, I'm going to play hard for whoever I get traded to. If I don't get traded, I'm going to play hard for Colorado."

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/col110226.html

Not much new information but at least Toronto seems to be one of the eleven clubs he would waive his NTC for.
toronto may be on the list... but the fact that he said fortunately does not sit well with me...

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I think what is happening is over the course of the past few days Burke is trying to figure out how much Macarthur wants. If its reasonable for money and length of the contract Burke will just keep him and try and work out a contract after the deadline, getting closer to the draft. If Macarthur wants lots of money or term then Burke will really look hard at what he has been offered for Macarthur.
I'd imagine Burke has an idea of what MacArthur wants in contract demands. He's had talks with the agent.

He said on HNIC last night that Monday wasn't the deadline to trade MacArthur, but if a trade fit their price-tag for him, they'd have to consider moving him. This is probably due to his RFA status, and not being a UFA. He can still negotiate with MacArthur in the summer, go through arbitration, and then settle or even be dealt after a settlement. Could be a draft day trade too after draft positions have been established.

What that price-tag to trade MacArthur is anyone's guess. If I had to put a price on it, it would likely be at least as much as Versteeg to get Burke seriously interested. Also depends on the team that he's trading with. My reason being that Versteeg didn't 'fit/mesh' with the team, and MacArthur clearly has.

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toronto may be on the list... but the fact that he said fortunately does not sit well with me...
I don't see very many NHLer's that want to be traded. I don't think its about Toronto.

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I'd imagine Burke has an idea of what MacArthur wants in contract demands. He's had talks with the agent.

He said on HNIC last night that Monday wasn't the deadline to trade MacArthur, but if a trade fit their price-tag for him, they'd have to consider moving him. This is probably due to his RFA status, and not being a UFA. He can still negotiate with MacArthur in the summer, go through arbitration, and then settle or even be dealt after a settlement. Could be a draft day trade too after draft positions have been established.

What that price-tag to trade MacArthur is anyone's guess. If I had to put a price on it, it would likely be at least as much as Versteeg to get Burke seriously interested. Also depends on the team that he's trading with. My reason being that Versteeg didn't 'fit/mesh' with the team, and MacArthur clearly has.
If Burke can get a first + for Macarthur, I would hope he trades him. This year very well could have been a fluke for Macarthur. Although, if Burke does resign him, I hope Macarthur proves me wrong and makes me eat my words.

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