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NSH/TOR: Clarke MacArthur for Ryan Ellis

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02-27-2011, 06:44 PM
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People are getting a bit carried away with Ellis' value right now, but I agree, this seems a bit unlikely. A lot of it depends on how badly Nashville wants to lose Dumont's salary.
If anything Ellis has become popular to hate on and his value on these boards is way understated. Every Nash fan will admit there are risks with him but some of the stuff I read here are ridiculous.

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Sportsnet always seems to hurt their own cause.

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He was suggesting a possible offer, not creating a rumor.

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You weiners are way too sold on Ellis.
Go look at the glut of undersized junior hockey scoring D's who've never made it in the NHL. It's staggering.

And Ellis is not just small, but frickin slow. He will make Bryan Berard look amazing.

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I would make that deal right now......

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Sounds like a great deal for the Leafs.

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Good work by Doug to get more Leafs fans watching the deadline day shows.

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If anything Ellis has become popular to hate on and his value on these boards is way understated. Every Nash fan will admit there are risks with him but some of the stuff I read here are ridiculous.
I think some people seriously undervalue him, but just as many seriously over-rate him. I'd say he should end up as a Goligoski type, maybe a bit better. Like a #4 DMan who kills it on the PP.

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A defensive prospect leading his team in scoring with around 1.7 points per game for Clarke MacArthur? This has to be a joke.
One is leading his NHL team in scoring, while the other...

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Only people I believe on TV are Dreger, Bobby Mac, and Lebrun

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how can leafs fans believe in this ? I tought you knew something about hockey and players value..
Right... like how people thought it was crazy for Leafs fans to ask for a 1st + prospect for Kaberle... or how Beauchemin wouldn't fetch a top prospect.

I figured you guys would be the ones to learn by now but oh well.

Dumont has negative value and there are concerns with Ellis despite his elite offensive skills while MacArthur is 25 having a great year. Oh and Nashville has great depth at defense in NHL and in their farm system, they like their guys to be 2-way defenders.

Maybe this is just another case of HF overrating prospects once again.

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You weiners are way too sold on Ellis.
Go look at the glut of undersized junior hockey scoring D's who've never made it in the NHL. It's staggering.

And Ellis is not just small, but frickin slow. He will make Bryan Berard look amazing.
dude do you know that this guy has been drafted 11th overall in 09 ? If he is as bad as you think he is, he would have never been drafted, so please, it's not because HE'S SMALL THAT HE WILL NEVER PLAY IN THE NHL ...................................

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02-27-2011, 06:51 PM
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lol a guy putting up good numbers the Ontario Hockey League + A Cap Dump vs a guy who is putting up good numbers in the National Hockey League...yeah what a steal for the Leafs!

Seriously though, people act like it's ellis for some 3rd-4th line scrub..It's Ellis + A pretty big cap dump for a young forward who might hit 60+ points this season and is relatively good in all areas of the ice

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Mac seems like a good project for Nashville. They normally get the best out of guys like Mac but he's doing well in Toronto and the should keep him

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Ryan Ellis only gets a rental?

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Ryan Ellis only gets a rental?
He is a RESTRICTED FREE AGENT

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Ryan Ellis only gets a rental?
macarthur is an RFA

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dude do you know that this guy has been drafted 11th overall in 09 ? If he is as bad as you think he is, he would have never been drafted, so please, it's not because HE'S SMALL THAT HE WILL NEVER PLAY IN THE NHL ...................................
If the draft was redone, he doesnt go in the top 20 more than likely.

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Right... like how people thought it was crazy for Leafs fans to ask for a 1st + prospect for Kaberle... or how Beauchemin wouldn't fetch a top prospect.

I figured you guys would be the ones to learn by now but oh well.

Dumont has negative value and there are concerns with Ellis despite his elite offensive skills while MacArthur is 25 having a great year. Oh and Nashville has great depth at defense in NHL and in their farm system, they like their guys to be 2-way defenders.

Maybe this is just another case of HF overrating prospects once again.
so what ? just because Mr macarthur plays well for the first time of his carreer that he's worth ryan ellis ? Don't compare him to kaberle or even to beauchemin, these guys had already proved themselves more than once, even burke said that he's scared that if he sgns him long-term he doesn't produce like that every time. And Dumont has his first bad season, that doesn't mean that he is finsh

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02-27-2011, 06:59 PM
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this would be great for the Leafs prospects pool

Kadri + Ellis + Colborne + Gardiner + 2 1sts (Jurco?/Khocklachev?)

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wow, wouldn't be a good trade for Nashville at all...although they'd be unloading JP Dumont I guess and they're kinda stacked with defensemen prospects

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That'd be insane for Toronto.

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He was suggesting a possible offer, not creating a rumor.
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"poile really wants MacArthur, what we are hearing is Ryan Ellis + JP Dumont as a salary dump"

He then went on to say NAS is stocked with young D so it makes Ellis expendable.

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02-27-2011, 07:02 PM
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If this is true Leafs playoff hopes take a hit...

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