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07-01-2004, 10:30 PM
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If you could choose one

If you could grant one player an injury free career among these victims of career threatening injuries who would it be:

Mario Lemieux
Cam Neely
Bobby Orr
Saku Koivu

Maybe someone else?

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Mario Lemieux

so then the greatest hockey player of all time wouldn't be peddling Ford and McDonalds.

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Bobby Orr

I would love to have seen the numbers he would have put up without bum knees. I think the all time scoring race would be a little closer with a different name at #2

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Although I would love to see what Orr could have done had he had a good pair of knees, if I could I'd make it so neither Koivu nor Lemieux had to go through their respective life threatening illnesses.

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It would have been nice to see how Lindros' career would have went, if he didn't skate with his head down.

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Bobby Orr

I would love to have seen the numbers he would have put up without bum knees. I think the all time scoring race would be a little closer with a different name at #2
Ditto.

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Mario Lemieux

so then the greatest hockey player of all time wouldn't be peddling Ford and McDonalds.
Took the words right out of my mouth.

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Give me either Bobby Orr OR Mario Lemieux ...

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I was lucky to see Mario, Wayne and Bobby in their primes. I feel the three of them are the best of all time. But, I'll take Mario.

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I'd take Mario or Neely in a heartbeat, but then I'd slow down and wonder what Koivu could have been if hed just skipped that Hawks (or was it Rangers) game. Leading the league in scoring (outscoring even Lemieux) at 21-22 and then going down so badly. He's still a great player though.

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Give me either Bobby Orr OR Mario Lemieux ...
I agree.

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Orr

The guy was possibly the best player to ever lace up skates.

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If Orr & Lemieux both never had the horrible problems that they had to endure. I think pretty much all hockey experts would be calling this the top 3 hockey players of all-time(in order).

1. Bobby Orr
2. Mario Lemieux
3. Wayne Gretzky

I also think that Cam Neely could've made the top 20 all-time or maybe the top 15.

Also, how come you never included Lindros?

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07-02-2004, 10:45 AM
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If Orr & Lemieux both never had the horrible problems that they had to endure. I think pretty much all hockey experts would be calling this the top 3 hockey players of all-time(in order).

1. Bobby Orr
2. Mario Lemieux
3. Wayne Gretzky
Ah...completely disagree! Perhaps an argument can be made in Bobby's case but definately not in Mario's case. Everybody knows that Mario never had the love for the game that the other two had and he was involved with all sorts of 'extra curricular' off ice activities...including being in the same room as Dan Quinn when he r-a-p-e-d a girl!!! And names like Tippet, Stevens, etc keep popping up around Lemieux...

You can argue that Lemieux was more naturally physically gifted than perhaps ALL others in history but, no, Lemieux would never have surpassed Gretzky in numbers, coming through in the clutch, consistancy, and in overall greatness.

Actually, if you use this argument of physical ailment, then you can argue that if that little @#$ Gary Suter didn't take out Wayne with that viscious cross check to the back and into the boards in '91 Canada Cup, Wayne would have gone on to greater heights!!! Because Wayne was never the same after that!!!

And to make matters worse, that same little !#@@ Gary Suter did pretty much the same thing all over again to little Paul Kariya, who was arguably the BEST player in the world at that time...and once again, as you can PLAINLY see by how he plays now, Kariya has never been the same after that either! Because prior to that hit, there were a couple seasons when Kariya flat out put his entire no-talent team on his small little back and carried them into the playoffs all by his lonesome! This guy could have turned out to be something really special if he was healthy...at least to the level of Forberg and Jagr and pretty likely greater...because even though younger than both, Kariya was playing at arguable higher level than these two at the time of the Suter hit.

So what am I trying to say? Perhaps the most important part of being great comes from being consistant. You cannot be consistant if you are unhealthy. Greatness comes from many, many factors all falling into place together at the same time.

And simply that Wayne Gretzky was the greatest hockey player of all time and neither Bobby Orr nor Mario Lemieux will ever change that! Perhaps one of the new kids may...Sidney Crosby? Ily Kovachuk? Rick Nash? Maybe, but I doubt it...


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I'd take Mario or Neely in a heartbeat, but then I'd slow down and wonder what Koivu could have been if hed just skipped that Hawks (or was it Rangers) game. Leading the league in scoring (outscoring even Lemieux) at 21-22 and then going down so badly. He's still a great player though.

Good point. If Koivu stayed healthy, and played like he can (as he does in International play) he could become dominate.

Unlike Lemieux, Orr and Neely. In Koivu's case, there is still time! (*knocks on wood*)

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Mike Bossy was one of the best pure goal scorers of all time and his back injuries cost him about 5 years from his career if not more. 9 consecutive seasons of 50 goals or more and I believe he has one of the highest point per game ratios in the history of the NHL. I would have loved to see how much more he could have accomplished had it not been for his back.


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Hard decision between Orr and Lemieux...but I would go with Lemieux because he would have challenged, and likely broken, many of Gretzky's records

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