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[FLA/CAR] Bryan Allen for Sergei Samsonov

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02-28-2011, 12:48 PM
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Dale Tallon confuses me.

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Allen's cap hit for next season is a little over 3 mil.

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02-28-2011, 12:49 PM
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What's Florida's defence look like now?

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Boy, that Luongo trade just keeps getting worse and worse...
Bertuzzi - gone
Allen - gone
Auld - gone

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Allen may not be anything to write home about, but he is exactly what we need.
I guess Carolina is the first team in NHL history in need of a pylon.

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FLA has traded 3 d-men lately. You must assume they have a deal(s) for some to come back???
They added Sulzer the other day, so that fills 1 spot

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What's Florida's defence look like now?
Florida still has a defense?

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So Panthers are cutting salary basically going forward

I thought Samsonov had been solid vet presence for Canes last few years ,, Could be bad to disrupt the lockerroom too much IMO

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I dont think people can comprehend how awful Bryan Allen is. I defended McCabe. I defended Wideman. But this guy is an absolute albatross. He'll go down in infamy as one of the worst defensmen in Panthers history along with Mathieu Biron, Mike Wilson and Lance Pitlick.

Ever since he tore up his knee, he's been one of the worst defensmen I've ever seen. Ever.
How so? Other than the year he missed due to injury, he's put up similar numbers. About 20:00TOI, 10-15 points per year, 60-80 PIMS, as the Panthers got worse, his +/- got worse, but it's been pretty okay on a pretty crappy team.

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Tallon is determined to rebuild Pittsburgh style. Which makes me wonder why Vokoun hasn't been dealt yet.
NMC.

I miss the Panthers in the playoffs. This doesn't help. I'm kind of getting excited for a Canes/Flyers first round match-up, though.

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What's Florida's defence look like now?
Kulikov-Ellerby
Garrison-Weaver
Sulzer-Callahan

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A Panthers fan can correct me, but I believe this is the trajectory of Bryan Allen--

- Big, solid, defensive guy. #3 or 4 quality.
- Destroys his knee.
- Big, solid, defensive traffic cone. Unfit for use on major roads.


lol. yes, pretty much. i dont think calling him a traffic cone does his terrible play justice, though, as a traffic cone can't constantly turn the puck over, too.

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02-28-2011, 12:50 PM
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What's Florida's defence look like now?
Weaver-Garrison
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Wonder what Stephen Weiss is thinking right now.
I can't believe I get to play with Sergei Samsonov!

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I guess one way of building a new house is to first burn the existing one to the ground.

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It looks like Florida is just dumping Allen's second year

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I guess Carolina is the first team in NHL history in need of a pylon.
Wasn't it Florida that assessed the talent of Grabner? How did that one work out?

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Wasn't it Florida that assessed the talent of Grabner? How did that one work out?
keep trying to convince yourself that allen is even remotely decent - your opinion will change after his first shift tomorrow night.

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A Panthers fan can correct me, but I believe this is the trajectory of Bryan Allen--

- Big, solid, defensive guy. #3 or 4 quality.
- Destroys his knee.
- Big, solid, defensive traffic cone. Unfit for use on major roads.
Yep, that sums Allen up.

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Gets Allen off the books for next year I guess. Kind of an NBA style trade here. Samsonov's value is in that he has an expiring contract.

Allen is serviceable, but is a bit rich for what he actually brings. Injuries have slowed him severly.

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TSNBobMcKenzie: Samsonov for Allen may well happen, but it has not happened yet. Allen has waived his NTC to go to CAR but FLA-CAR trade talks continue.

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Oh noes, we gave up a soft, overpaid, underachieving winger to bring in a reclamation project who we can just waive/trade if it doesn't work out.

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keep trying to convince yourself that allen is even remotely decent - your opinion will change after his first shift tomorrow night.
I'm not trying to say that he is good. Haven't seen him play enough. What I am saying is that often times a player will play much better with a change in location.

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Does Tallon know that he can trade out of the division?

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Tallon ain't ****ing around.

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