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02-28-2011, 04:35 PM
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Penner - Kopitar - Williams
Smyth - Stoll - Brown
Poni - Zeus - Simmonds
Clifford - Lewis - Richardson


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Penner - Kopitar - Williams
Smyth - Stoll - Brown
Poni - Zeus - Simmonds
Clifford - Lewis - Richardson

Yes please.

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02-28-2011, 04:39 PM
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So whats are cap look like for next season?

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So whats are cap look like for next season?
About $11M under, with Dewy, Richardson and Simmonds left to sign.

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The more and more I think about this the more I like it from LA's point of view. Namely because of the extra year on Penner's contract. I question whether the Kings would stick with him long term because I have never thought he was a "DL type of player". However, they at least get to try him out for the rest of the season and see what he can do for the Kings in the postseason (crossing fingers they make it). I think the biggest deterrent from trading for the big name winger in the offseason has been the prospect of giving up a good young player (a la simmonds, bernier, etc). With another year left on his contract, I doubt the Kings or Kings fans would lose sleep over trading Penner in a package.

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02-28-2011, 04:42 PM
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The other good news is if Penner works out, the Kings prob have a good chance of re-signing him.

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02-28-2011, 04:43 PM
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His skating sure is underrated. Watching that highlight reel, there were many instances where Penner uses his strong skating to break past a defender. He looks like a more skilled and physical version of Frolov.

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02-28-2011, 04:45 PM
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The other good news is if Penner works out, the Kings prob have a good chance of re-signing him.
Most likely for less money too.

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02-28-2011, 04:47 PM
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I still don't understand why every trade has to have a clear "winner"? Could this trade be overpayment? Maybe, maybe not. The Kings got the best current player and some will say they "win" the trade.

Why can't this just be a solid hockey deal? Both teams addressed a major need, the Kings needed a top LW and didn't want to lose a roster player. The Oilers needed a tough defenseman to replace Greene and some draft picks.

I'm very happy with today's events, top line LW and Williams extended. Teubert has been passed on the depth charts for LA and Dean has been solid with his lower round picks in the past to make a 1st expendable. The 3rd round pick was probably a little too much to add, but not a huge loss for the Kings.

Solid trade for both sides.

Go Kings!

This is an interesting and fair point that I think is often overlooked.

The old adage that the team who ended up with the best player always wins the deal sort of sets the stage for the line of thinking that says someone must win.

But if the Oilers are happy with Tuebert and his long development path (though I still say he will end up being a second pairing guy) and the picks and we are happy with Penner then why does there have to be a clear cut winner?

Its all about how you perceive things I guess.

Interesting point 25.

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YES! The Oiler I wanted all along! Dean literally got this guy for FREE. A mid level prospect that we don't need and an in-the-20s first rounder that we need even less! THIS IS A STEAL...Dean actually got the job done!

And I say "don't need" as in we are trying to win now, btw...

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02-28-2011, 04:50 PM
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25 if such a weak number, I wish he would wear a cool number like 72. I also wish Lewis would've kept 61, would've been so sick hahaha

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I think it's a pretty good deal for the Oilers. I mean you get a top-end offensive prospect, a first rounder in 2011 and a conditional pick in 2012.

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I think it's a pretty good deal for the Oilers. I mean you get a top-end offensive prospect, a first rounder in 2011 and a conditional pick in 2012.
top offensive prospect? Colten Teubert was one of our worst defensive prospects in our organization. He played in the ECHL 2 years in a row after his WHL season was done. He's a healthy scratch with Manchester from time to time this year, pretty bad for a 13th pick overall

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I am just happy the overall mood of the board will change. Getting so sick of everyone thinking Dean can't make a trade ETC ETC.

This place will be much more pleasant to read from here on out.
Lets hope Penner stays out of TM dog house.

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02-28-2011, 04:54 PM
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Great deal for you guys (probably for us too). DP is a great player and a great teammate. This was all about having to sign him, Hemsky, and the kids all at the same time. Check out Oil change (I think it is episode 2 or 3) on Edmontonoilers.com and see him trash talking Perry and Getzlaf...hilarous! Good luck Pens.

Thx oilphan. http://video.oilers.nhl.com/videocen...nsole?id=90697 2:25


At first glance, it's a win-win imo. Penn helps us now and if Teubert can polish his skills a bit he's going to be a ***** to play against. Hope he works out for the Oil, just not against us.


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Roflmao. That was beastly.

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I remember the board being overwhelmingly in favor of the Ryan Smyth deal as well. There were only a few people who didn't like it.

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TSN guys are hilarious. They all *****ed that the kings had to make a move, then when they do they talk crap about it.


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TSN guys are hilarious. They all *****ed that the kings had to make a move, then when they do they talk crap about it.

****, I was watching TSN all day and the only time I stop watching, the Kings sign Dustin Penner and the TSN Panel starts talking **** and saying it was a bad trade. Does anyone have a video of this?

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I am just happy the overall mood of the board will change. Getting so sick of everyone thinking Dean can't make a trade ETC ETC.

This place will be much more pleasant to read from here on out.
Lets hope Penner stays out of TM dog house.
I couldn't agree more.

Lately we have been more and more like every other fansite with how much poster bashing and team ripping has been going on.

It had gone well beyond just being critical of some particular thing player or situation and slowly turning into an always negative long running argument.

I hope its over.

The difference between plain old whiny byatching and debating to my pov is how you treat your opponent. I like a good debate even a heated one but not if it turns me against another Kings fan.

I know that I haven't posted in the same manner that I had before simply because I don't want to have to argue with anyone.

Look at me whining, well I guess its true, you do become what you most dislike.

Hooray for DL making a sensible deal that helps us now without hurting us later.

Until that rat bastage TM gets ahold of him and vampires out any creativity that he has in him!


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I was split down the middle on the Smyth deal and have come to like it as time goes on.

Is he slow?

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But is he still a great scoring threat and an effective forward? Yes. Does he also bring experience and a great locker room presence? Yes. Is he also a great mentor to our young team? I think so.



Yep, Smyth turned me around with all of his game.


Right round baby


right round


like a record baby right round round round.


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I remember the board being overwhelmingly in favor of the Ryan Smyth deal as well. There were only a few people who didn't like it.
We should have been overwhelmingly in favor of the Ryan Smyth deal. It's been a good deal for the Kings.

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Very happy.

Penner isn't a game breaker but he makes us much better than we were yesterday and a hard team to play against. We lost nothing of significance to pick him up which is a awesome and we get him for another year.
This year's draft is meh.

Teubert was just expendable.

Voynov
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Hoping for a line up like this next year:

Penner- Kopi -Williams
Smyth- Stoll -Brown
Parse/Loktionov- Schenn -Simmonds
Clifford- Lewis/Richardson -Moller


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