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03-01-2011, 08:22 PM
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Anton Babchuk

Do you think that Calgary will sign "The Anton"? I think he has been a great addition and I have been very impressed with his play so far. If we do sign him (which I hope we do) what kind of contract do you think he will be looking for? I would give him a contract close to Phillips if it came down to it.

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We spend too much on D. Anton has been great, but unless we move Sarich in the off season we can't afford Anton. Staios is coming off the books but we also got Gio's raise incomming next year.

Even if we did move Sarich I'd still be leery of giving Babchuk a decent contract. I don't know the entire deal with what happened in Carolina but he did leave to go to Europe didn't he? Not sure if he is the type of guy to mail it in after getting a decnt contract, but I'd worry about it.

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I say offer a 2 year contract none of these seemingly endless deals. I dig his play. As long as he is not White 2.0 post new contract all should be fine.

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I hope the Flames resign Babchuk for sure. Our PP has been much better since he was traded here. I am not saying he is the only reason why but he is a part of it. I think he has improved his defensive game from when he first arrived here until now as well. I think in a full season in Calgary he would be second to only Gio for total scoring by defenceman on our team and he has been solid all around.

I think he would resign a 2yr deal, for 2-2.25 million per year. For the upside he has I think that would be a bargain. If we need to trade Sarich to fit him in, the so be it. Its time to give the kids a chance anyways.

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Do I want him resigned? yes I do. It all depends if he fits in the Flames' plans moving forward, and if they are able to afford him.

Altough his numbers are good, I still only view him as a 5/6 dman and would not want the flames to go out of their way just to sign Babchuk.

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03-01-2011, 09:53 PM
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I would love to keep him. Preferably not too much money though, and short term.

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Flames can't afford him, if we want to sign him he will most likely get a contract in the 2.75 mill range. So its him or Glencross.

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I'd like to have him back but I have a feeling Tim Erixon will be taking his roster spot at a much cheaper rate.

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Do I want him resigned? yes I do. It all depends if he fits in the Flames' plans moving forward, and if they are able to afford him.

Altough his numbers are good, I still only view him as a 5/6 dman and would not want the flames to go out of their way just to sign Babchuk.
Yes he's a 5/6 d-man that is capable of putting up 35-40 points a year and has a great PP shot. I want him back. There are other options out there that would allow the Flames to resign Glencross, Tanguay and Babchuk.

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03-01-2011, 10:26 PM
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Yes he's a 5/6 d-man that is capable of putting up 35-40 points a year and has a great PP shot. I want him back. There are other options out there that would allow the Flames to resign Glencross, Tanguay and Babchuk.
Trade Hagman and Stajan in the off season but that will be a real test.

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Trade Hagman and Stajan in the off season but that will be a real test.
Staios' contract will be off the books. If Hagman turns the rest of this season around maybe we can trade him in the offseason or a team might possibly be willing to claim him on waivers then. I would also trade Sarich to aquire a draft pick. This would free up over 9 million in cap space. That is easily enough to resign Tanguay, Glencross and Babchuk. Kotalik will also not be here either, so really the Flames do have some options.

For those saying we need to keep Sarich, I am more than fine with this top 8 next year.

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I'm hoping the Flames re-sign Babchuk. He's been a great addition.

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Staios' contract will be off the books. If Hagman turns the rest of this season around maybe we can trade him in the offseason or a team might possibly be willing to claim him on waivers then. I would also trade Sarich to aquire a draft pick. This would free up over 9 million in cap space. That is easily enough to resign Tanguay, Glencross and Babchuk. Kotalik will also not be here either, so really the Flames do have some options.

For those saying we need to keep Sarich, I am more than fine with this top 8 next year.

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Remember that Langkow will be back to, 4.5 million right their. It would also be very tough to trade Sarich without taking cap back in return or even if he waives his NMC for that matter.

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Remember that Langkow will be back to, 4.5 million right their. It would also be very tough to trade Sarich without taking cap back in return or even if he waives his NMC for that matter.
I honestly do not know that Langkow will even be back next year. He has been cleared for light workouts and thats it. There is alot that has to happen for him to even get clearence for him to play again let alone take contact.

In the offseason alot of contracts come off of teams books on July 1st. It is way harder to trade contracts for draft picks at the deadline because of cap implications. After the first week or two in July pass and bunch of overpaid contracts are handed out, there may be a few teams that missed out on signing a defenceman they were after. That would be the time to try and move Sarich with no salary coming back. And I do not think that Sarich is the type of guy who would say no to a trade if the Flames wanted to go into a different direction, it just gives him more control over his destination.

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I honestly do not know that Langkow will even be back next year. He has been cleared for light workouts and thats it. There is alot that has to happen for him to even get clearence for him to play again let alone take contact.

In the offseason alot of contracts come off of teams books on July 1st. It is way harder to trade contracts for draft picks at the deadline because of cap implications. After the first week or two in July pass and bunch of overpaid contracts are handed out, there may be a few teams that missed out on signing a defenceman they were after. That would be the time to try and move Sarich with no salary coming back. And I do not think that Sarich is the type of guy who would say no to a trade if the Flames wanted to go into a different direction, it just gives him more control over his destination.
And that destination will most likely be a contender, usually teams that don't have room to take on a 3.6 million dollar defenseman.

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Staios' contract will be off the books.
Just to keep things in perspective, we shouldn't forget that Gio's new contract kicks in next year as well, a raise of roughly 3.1M in addition to his current salary.

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I would hope Feaster makes it a priority to sign him. In fact, I would rather sign him over Glencross, especially since he'll probably be cheaper.

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Staios' contract will be off the books. If Hagman turns the rest of this season around maybe we can trade him in the offseason or a team might possibly be willing to claim him on waivers then. I would also trade Sarich to aquire a draft pick. This would free up over 9 million in cap space. That is easily enough to resign Tanguay, Glencross and Babchuk. Kotalik will also not be here either, so really the Flames do have some options.

For those saying we need to keep Sarich, I am more than fine with this top 8 next year.

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Babchuk Brodie
Mikkleson Carson
the thought o a Babchuk/Brodie pairing makes me shudder... that would be horrific in our own end... re-signing Babchuk IMO means Brodie spends another year in Abbotsford.. which I think he should anyways

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I honestly do not know that Langkow will even be back next year. He has been cleared for light workouts and thats it. There is alot that has to happen for him to even get clearence for him to play again let alone take contact.
actually the specialist has cleared Langkow outright saying there is no chance of re-injury and that his time frame is 2-3 months

that is why Langkow is on the ice with teammates now when in the past he was only ever cleared to skate alone in fear of being 'bumped'

Langkow returning might put us in cap hell, but IMO its worth it to see him back... Langkow returning frm this injury will be one of the greatest moments in franchise history and I hope our fans can ignore the contract and treat it as such

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Tanguay
Babchuk
Glencross

Those players should be the top priority this summer, imo.

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Tanguay
Babchuk
Glencross

Those players should be the top priority this summer, imo.
honestly if Glencross wants more than 2.5 million on a short term deal (3 years or less) i let him walk... no more than 2.5 million and no more than 3 years... of course if he took 1.5 I would give him 5-6 years, but only at a very healthy discount (read: minimal raise)

I'd put Babchuk in the same price range, but I'd go up to $3 million on a 1 year deal... I like Babchuk alot and appreciate everything he has done, but he simply is not a top 6 forward and if we want Brodie in the NHL in teh near future he simple can not be paired with Anton

Tanguay I want to keep regardless but for 2 years (until Iggy's contract is done, then re-sign them as a pair there after)... and I couldn't justify going above 3.5 million per year

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Would love to have Anton back but as everyone says we cant pay more than any other #5 guy.

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Tanguay
Babchuk
Glencross

Those players should be the top priority this summer, imo.
This exactly. Except add one.

Tanguay: He compliments Iginla so well. If we have Iggy on this team (a given) then this guy has to be the top priority for being re-uped. Nobody on our team possess his level of puck handling talent. We need him on this team more because of his unique skillset.

Babchuk: When we first traded for him I could have cared less about re-signing him. But Sutter has made him accountable in his own end and a shot blocking machine. Add the fact that he has a laser from the point this guy should be back in the fold. Unless Erixon can take his spot. I agree with others that Brodie will not be ready next year, unless he puts on 20 pounds.

Glencross: Streaky yes. But this guy brings 110% every night. He is worth $3 million in my eyes on a 3 year contract. Feaster needs to get it done, and you can't cheap out on this one unfortunatly. Our best PK guy, hardest working forward, and he puts up points. These kind of players are more valuable then fans tend to think.

Morrison: Anyone kidding themselves about not bringing this guy back? Not a chance! Like I said before he has that rare quality to make anyone he plays with better. He defines veteren leadership, and his nerves are stone cold. For a cheap price our team can have someone who slots into the #1 centre position quite easily. It also allows Jokinen too be a #2, which is where he should be and is proved by his excellent play lately. With our cap issues moving forward he is a cheap and versitile option that needs to be exercised.

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Morrison: Anyone kidding themselves about not bringing this guy back? Not a chance! Like I said before he has that rare quality to make anyone he plays with better. He defines veteren leadership, and his nerves are stone cold. For a cheap price our team can have someone who slots into the #1 centre position quite easily. It also allows Jokinen too be a #2, which is where he should be and is proved by his excellent play lately. With our cap issues moving forward he is a cheap and versitile option that needs to be exercised.
Morrison is exactly what Langkow was before he got hurt. The problem is Langkow is now looking like he will return next season... unless Morrison is used in Glencross' current role or a center is traded I'm not sure we have space for him

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Morrison is exactly what Langkow was before he got hurt. The problem is Langkow is now looking like he will return next season... unless Morrison is used in Glencross' current role or a center is traded I'm not sure we have space for him
True, the only problem is that Langkow might never be the player he was. Who knows? We'll have to see how that all plays out. Knowing Langkow if their is any possibility for him to play again you know he'll want to come back.

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And that destination will most likely be a contender, usually teams that don't have room to take on a 3.6 million dollar defenseman.
Sarich would not necessarily demand to be traded to a contender, just not a bottom feeder team that is a decent city. He also may ok a trade to go to a team like Tampa that would be able to fit him in no problem.

If Langkow plays next season the only way we resign Morrison is if a) he plays the wing for an entire season, or b) we trade Stajan. I would opt for option b) if possible.

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