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03-05-2011, 11:14 AM
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Hockey's Future Kings Top 20 Prospects

Just saw this posted on hockeysfuture.com. Link

Q&D list:
  1. Schenn
  2. Bernier
  3. Loktionov
  4. Toffoli
  5. Forbort
  6. Voynov
  7. Deslauriers
  8. Clifford
  9. Hickey
  10. Jones
  11. Martinez
  12. Kozun
  13. Kitsyn
  14. Muzzin
  15. Vey
  16. Weal
  17. Zatkoff
  18. King
  19. Holloway
  20. Cliche

No complaints from me.

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03-05-2011, 11:25 AM
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Just saw this posted on hockeysfuture.com. Link

Q&D list:
  1. Schenn
  2. Bernier
  3. Loktionov
  4. Toffoli
  5. Forbort
  6. Voynov
  7. Deslauriers should be lower
  8. Clifford should be higher
  9. Hickey should be lower
  10. Jones
  11. Martinez should be higher
  12. Kozun should be higher
  13. Kitsyn
  14. Muzzin should be higher
  15. Vey
  16. Weal
  17. Zatkoff
  18. King
  19. Holloway
  20. Cliche

No complaints from me.
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Oscar sad.

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-That's quite an endorsement of Deslauriers.

-Regardless of HF criteria, Moller is obviously still a prospect.

-Loktionov is too high.

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No big complaints other than Martinez. I'd have him higher.

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way way higher for Vey

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First,

It isn't just the list but it is also an excellent article and while I may or may not agree with some of what is written in a few of the assessments they are all exceptionally well done and insightful.


Schenn
Bernier
Martinez
Loktionov
Clifford
Moller
Voynov
Toffoli
Deslauriers
Muzzin
Hickey
Forbort
Kozun
Jones
Kitsyn
Vey
Weal
Holloway
King
Zatkoff

Oscar Moller has proven himself to be an effective NHL caliber forward and if given a full season with the big club and brought along in a manner that would capitalize on his strengths which are speed, creativity, hockey sense and superior skating ability and protect him from his major weakness and that is playing with a style that is better suited for a 6'4"230 winger that he could become a really solid 4/8 everyday rostered player. He belongs on the list and up near the top of it in my opinion.


I have Alec Martinez ranked highly because he has proven himself to be worthy of a full time roster spot on one of the top defencive teams in the NHL. He has had some very good games during this his rookie season but he clearly has been learning as he goes along. He is a solid skater with good hockey sense and skates with his head up. He is as good as everyone but DD and JJ when it comes to passing among our D and is learning as the season goes on when to step up and join the offence and when to play positional hockey.

He has a way to go but has proven himself to be a solid NHL 4/6 defenceman on our team and I can see him becoming a 2nd pairing 2nd pp guy in time if he continues to develop the way he has so far.


For those who like following our developing players as much as I do, do yourself a favor and go watch all the vids you can find on the young Mr Deslauriers. As far as his skating goes I can't think of anyone on our team who I would consider to be better than him at this point. This kid has elite level talent when it comes to his wheels. He is a very fun offencive dman to watch play the game. He has one speed and that is all out whether it is stepping up into the play or playing in his own end. He does a very good job at keeping the front of the net clear and doesn't mind dropping the gloves. I would say that he could become a legitimate number one on most any team in the league within the next 4 years.

His drawback is that he needs to mature with his skills. His all out play at the level that he is playing at is a great thing to see but he will need to learn temperance if he is going to translate his superior skillset to the NHL.

Jake Muzzin is NHL ready. His only real problem is that he was breaking in with a team that has such incredible depth that we had other options to turn to when he began to struggle which all rookie D will do from time to time.

One of the things that I like about Muzz's game is that he has a mean streak that he does a really good job at knowing when to use. Everything else that can be written about him would just be repeating what we have all seen during his stretch with the Kings. He has the ability to be a 2nd pairing D with solid O skills within the next year.

I like Toffoli. His skating has come so far that I would actually compare him to a young Luc in that they both were called out to be bad skaters but still manage to be very exceptional players. Other than that I think that he has top 6 exceptional scoring winger in the NHL if all continues as planned. He's one of those kids that is really difficult not to like both on and off the ice. I would also add that he has become a clutch scorer and a guy that can be counted on to step up his game when the situation calls.

I still say Hickey will make it and be a top 4 dman in the NHL and that he like Muzzin is more a victim of circumstances than he is to anything else. I hope that he is dealt during this offseason so that he can have his shot and show us how good he can be.

The player I dropped from my list is Cliche. I like his game and think that he could be an effective NHL caliber 4rth line defencive specialist type of player but I think that he will have a hard time breaking into our line up.

Holloway is going to make it to the NHL, he can skate, he plays with heart, he has solid hands and knows how to get his shot off without compromising his two way game. How when and where I can't tell you but Holloway is a clutch player and is going to get his shot.

I have been luke warm towards to Zatkov's game since I watched him play for all the peanuts and while he has game I just think that he is to inconsistent to ever make it as an NHL goalie. Maybe a back up in a year or two but then I really don't know. I have him where I do because of his exceptionally quick glove hand and the fact that he is a tireless worker. He has proven himself at every level he has played at and when you couple those two things together you never know.

I had a chance to talk again with Kitsyn and while he is on or close to being a point per game player it is his personality and determination that makes me think that he is going to be our third line LW within two seasons from now. He is an iron willed tuff as nails player who is just an immovable force in front of the net along with being a pain in hiney everywhere else. He might be two years away, he might be three but when he makes it he is going to be a fan favorite in my opinion.

Meh, I think that the article was really insightful and an excellent job and the great thing about it is that it points out how many NHL caliber kids we have in our system.

Its really shocking to me and I can't wait for another two years to pass so we can see how many of our kids over the past few years have made it into the NHL. Even then, our depth will still be pretty amazing.

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Just a typo to point out, really good job on the article. Just a great read, and quite a list of prospects. This draft should still be an interesting one, curious to see what they do.

Kozun was drafted 6th round #179 in 09', not the 3rd round in 06'.

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I mostly agree with Zad but this was a thoughtful list, the staff member who put it together considered almost every single of those suggestions and stuck with this group. Deslauriers seemed high to me over guys that have seen time with the main roster but he is having a helluva season so I could easily be wrong there.

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I read through the list, and with Martinez and Muzzin showing they are both capable of being 5/6 defensemen, I am puzzled as to what we're going to do with the rest of our defensive prospects?

With Doughty and Johnson locked into place, assuming we have 1-2 vet's (such as Scuderi, Mitchell, Greene, etc...) on an ongoing basis in the lineup, where do all these defensive prospects actually fit in? We can't get them all, and we can't underplay them forever (such as slotting them and a 5/6 when they are a 3/4)...what do we do? And when? It seems hard to get any fair value when we can't showcase them for a long period of time.

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Thanks for the kind words, folks. Missed this topic until now.

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I read through the list, and with Martinez and Muzzin showing they are both capable of being 5/6 defensemen, I am puzzled as to what we're going to do with the rest of our defensive prospects?

With Doughty and Johnson locked into place, assuming we have 1-2 vet's (such as Scuderi, Mitchell, Greene, etc...) on an ongoing basis in the lineup, where do all these defensive prospects actually fit in? We can't get them all, and we can't underplay them forever (such as slotting them and a 5/6 when they are a 3/4)...what do we do? And when? It seems hard to get any fair value when we can't showcase them for a long period of time.
It's a good problem to have. Other teams know more about our prospects than you'd think and they can always scout them directly if they want to know more/have some interest.

Eventually though, I see Scuderi/Mitchell/Greene being moved out, but if and only if there's a guy coming up who can fill their current role as well or better. I've always been of the mindset that puck-movers and two-way defensemen can be young, but shutdown guys should be veterans. It looks like DL has been thinking the same way, but I'm looking forward to seeing what he does with his embarrassment of riches on the back end.

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Scuderi was solid last year and he's been great this year. Any plan for the future better include him. Lombardi seems committed to Greener, his salary is a little heavy but he is well above average for a third pairing guy. Mitchell has been good, his future depends on his ability to stay in the lineup.

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Scuderi was solid last year and he's been great this year. Any plan for the future better include him. Lombardi seems committed to Greener, his salary is a little heavy but he is well above average for a third pairing guy. Mitchell has been good, his future depends on his ability to stay in the lineup.
Greene's only 27, so I could see him sticking around for a while, but Scuderi is 32 now and I worry about how close he is to losing a step. His game requires his positioning to be perfect at all times and I think two or three years down the line he'll start to have problems with opponent's speed. I don't see a prospect in the system who's as capable as he is, but I don't know if he'll be able to keep playing top four minutes once he hits 35.

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