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04-10-2011, 01:41 AM
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Not the most exciting fights tonight. The HW's brought it though, that was a great couple rounds.
Agreed. Askren seems like he is becoming little more than a hyper version of Jon Fitch.

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Askren's good, but it could be tougher over 5 rounds when he's fighting someone who can finish a fight. He executed his gameplan well last night.

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04-10-2011, 02:18 PM
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I feel like Bellator made a bad decision having their fights on Saturday. There's too many Strikeforce and UFC cards to compete with, I think they would have been better off on a Thursday slot or something

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04-10-2011, 02:42 PM
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I feel like Bellator made a bad decision having their fights on Saturday. There's too many Strikeforce and UFC cards to compete with, I think they would have been better off on a Thursday slot or something
Yeah, this is the popular opinion and I agree. Any other day would've been better, Saturday is the worst possible one.

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I feel like Bellator made a bad decision having their fights on Saturday. There's too many Strikeforce and UFC cards to compete with, I think they would have been better off on a Thursday slot or something
Well, they're smart enough to move the time of their cards for UFC events. I was surprised they didn't start at 8 this week due to Strikeforce. Personally, I think Saturday is the best night for it. That's when MMA fans expect to see MMA and they don't have to compete against new content on network television. I hated having it on midweek.

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Well, they're smart enough to move the time of their cards for UFC events. I was surprised they didn't start at 8 this week due to Strikeforce. Personally, I think Saturday is the best night for it. That's when MMA fans expect to see MMA and they don't have to compete against new content on network television. I hated having it on midweek.
I couldn't possibly disagree more. As a small sample size, look at the posts in here from people who caught Bellator last night. You may have to look for awhile, because there aren't any. Bellator tonight would've had more interest from people, even. Even better, you don't think it would get way more attention in the middle of the week? Its a complete afterthought in the MMA world on weekends when there is a Strikeforce or the UFC.

MTV2 likely would only take the deal if it was on the weakest night of programming, Saturday night. That's the only possible explanation for doing it Saturdays.

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Well, they're smart enough to move the time of their cards for UFC events. I was surprised they didn't start at 8 this week due to Strikeforce. Personally, I think Saturday is the best night for it. That's when MMA fans expect to see MMA and they don't have to compete against new content on network television. I hated having it on midweek.
Farting around with the start time every week does them no good. Constantly having to check the guide every week to see what time Bellator is on is an inconvenience, and hard to attract a following. Not to mention MTV2 being an abstract channel that nobody watches

The posters on here are some of the most loyal MMA fans, and even here there isn't much discussion about Bellator. What does that say about the casual fans?

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I couldn't possibly disagree more. As a small sample size, look at the posts in here from people who caught Bellator last night. You may have to look for awhile, because there aren't any. Bellator tonight would've had more interest from people, even. Even better, you don't think it would get way more attention in the middle of the week? Its a complete afterthought in the MMA world on weekends when there is a Strikeforce or the UFC.

MTV2 likely would only take the deal if it was on the weakest night of programming, Saturday night. That's the only possible explanation for doing it Saturdays.
I think the best of all worlds would be to have live events on non-Zuffa weekends, and highlight shows on the Zuffa weekends. MTV2 would get the day they want, MMA fans would get a live product to fill their weekend MMA fix, and Bellator would run uncontested.

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I think the best of all worlds would be to have live events on non-Zuffa weekends, and highlight shows on the Zuffa weekends. MTV2 would get the day they want, MMA fans would get a live product to fill their weekend MMA fix, and Bellator would run uncontested.
I don't think that's an option at all with how much Zuffa stuff is out there. I think they had 3 Saturday events in March alone. Friday nights would keep the live gates up and they'd have a much larger percentage of eyes.

Bellator has just proven to be dumb when it comes to this stuff. Last year their New Orleans show was booked head-to-head with the Saints first game of the season coming off a Super Bowl. It gets to the point where I don't even care if they succeed when they shoot themselves in the foot repeatedly.

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I don't think that's an option at all with how much Zuffa stuff is out there. I think they had 3 Saturday events in March alone. Friday nights would keep the live gates up and they'd have a much larger percentage of eyes.
April and May are pretty slack months. If they spread their two seasons throughout out the entire year, they would only need 24 Saturdays for live events.

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Bellator has just proven to be dumb when it comes to this stuff. Last year their New Orleans show was booked head-to-head with the Saints first game of the season coming off a Super Bowl. It gets to the point where I don't even care if they succeed when they shoot themselves in the foot repeatedly.
The Saints thing was goofy, but nobody comes to see their live show anyway. Whatever casino gives them the biggest fee, that's where they go. If that New Orleans on a bad day, then so be it.

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04-11-2011, 11:38 AM
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Farting around with the start time every week does them no good. Constantly having to check the guide every week to see what time Bellator is on is an inconvenience, and hard to attract a following. Not to mention MTV2 being an abstract channel that nobody watches

The posters on here are some of the most loyal MMA fans, and even here there isn't much discussion about Bellator. What does that say about the casual fans?
Really? Taking a few seconds to check the guide is an inconvenience? I love that they move the start time around, although, now that the UFC has started streaming prelims on Facebook, I still can't watch Bellator live on a UFC weekend. But I think there are plenty of people who would rather watch fights without a computer.

As for being on an obscure channel, I'll agree with you there. I didn't even remember I had that channel since I programmed it out of my TV so long ago. That being said, anything is better than last season with FSN. Most markets did not air the fights live and when things ran late, they would join the Bellator replay in progress, rather than airing it from the start. Most weeks I didn't get to see Bellator until Sunday night, by which time I already had seen the winners most weeks, since I would accidentally see results when checking for other MMA news.

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Really? Taking a few seconds to check the guide is an inconvenience?
I'm not saying I personally find it an inconvenience, but I think in the big picture it helps to build an audience when you have a stable start time and date every week for your show. Someone who watched the Bellator fights the previous week at 10, tunes in again at 10 to see the decision for the main event being announced isn't going to be pleased.

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I'm not saying I personally find it an inconvenience, but I think in the big picture it helps to build an audience when you have a stable start time and date every week for your show. Someone who watched the Bellator fights the previous week at 10, tunes in again at 10 to see the decision for the main event being announced isn't going to be pleased.
These are my thoughts too. If they insist on doing it Saturdays, then just have it earlier all the time.

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Marcos Galvao got shafted.

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Marcos Galvao got shafted.
I don't understand how a judge could have it 30-27 Warren. Galvao landed what, 5 flying knees in the 2nd round? Crazy. Seemed like a standard 29-28 Galvao win to me.

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Marcos Galvao got shafted.
I think that is pretty clear. You gotta love Warren though. He just gets stronger as the fight goes deeper. Galvao looked quite a bit bigger than Warren in the cage. That is probably why Joe had such a hard time taking him down.

Cant imagine fighting in 100 degree heat would help much either.

The decision was rigged.

30-27 for Warren? Cmon.

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Belator loves Warren! Honestly, he shouldn't even have that strap, Pitbull beat him in the final last year, IMO.

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04-18-2011, 02:42 PM
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Belator loves Warren! Honestly, he shouldn't even have that strap, Pitbull beat him in the final last year, IMO.
Wasnt that fight stopped?

One of the greatest comebacks in recent history.

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Wasnt that fight stopped?

One of the greatest comebacks in recent history.
No, you're thinking of the fight with Soto after Warren beat Pitbull to win the Season 2 tournament. In the fight with Pitbull he got his ass kicked in the first round, then won the last two with his wrestling. Probably should have been 28-28 with the first round being 10-8 Pitbull, but all three judges scored it 29-28 Warren if I recall correctly.

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No, you're thinking of the fight with Soto after Warren beat Pitbull to win the Season 2 tournament. In the fight with Pitbull he got his ass kicked in the first round, then won the last two with his wrestling. Probably should have been 28-28 with the first round being 10-8 Pitbull, but all three judges scored it 29-28 Warren if I recall correctly.
That's correct. I had given Pitbull round 2 also, coupled with the beating he handed down & I really thought he took that fight (mind you I really dislike Warren so it probably swayed my opinion on the fight). I actually think it was a split decision.

It looks like they'll do it again at the conclusion of this tourney, hopefully Pitbull comes out on top this time.


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I still haven't watched this, but look forward to it. I think the last sunny outdoor daytime event I saw was Bodog in Costa Rica.

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I think that is pretty clear. You gotta love Warren though. He just gets stronger as the fight goes deeper. Galvao looked quite a bit bigger than Warren in the cage. That is probably why Joe had such a hard time taking him down.

Cant imagine fighting in 100 degree heat would help much either.

The decision was rigged.

30-27 for Warren? Cmon.
Yeah, that was probably the worst decision I've seen since following MMA in the summer of 2009. Most of the time, I can at least understand the judges' decision, like in the Mousasi vs. Jardine fight. This one, though, I couldn't see any way where Warren won.

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I actually don't have a huge problem with Warren winning, I'd have to watch the fight again. What I do know is that there is absolutely no doubt Galvao won the 2nd round, and Warren won the 3rd. That was a 29-28 fight either way, not 30-27 like one judge had it. I thought Galvao won the first as well, but I won't argue too much until I have another chance to see the 1st.

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I actually don't have a huge problem with Warren winning, I'd have to watch the fight again. What I do know is that there is absolutely no doubt Galvao won the 2nd round, and Warren won the 3rd. That was a 29-28 fight either way, not 30-27 like one judge had it. I thought Galvao won the first as well, but I won't argue too much until I have another chance to see the 1st.
Agreed about rounds 2 and 3. In the first round, it seemed like just about the only significant thing that happened was that Galvao put Warren on his back just about everytime he shot for a takedown. Other than those takedowns, I definitely don't recall either guy having any sort of edge in the round.

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Bellator 41 draws a season low rating of 132,000

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