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07-03-2004, 04:31 PM
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Nedved to LA?

According to Slamsports, there's "speculation" that the Kings are 1 of 4 teams interested in Petr Nedved....

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam040703/nhl_edm-sun.html

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Well, to look at things in a positive light, that means there is a 80% chance we WONT sign Nedved.

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Nedved MIGHT be a good addition if the Kings also reacquire Glen Murray. Murray is only effective with a center who can create scoring chances for him (i.e. Thornton).

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I seriously think that signing anyone is a bad idea. It'll screw up with the comp picks we'll be owed in next years deep draft . . .

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Well so far iv heard Kariya,Nedved,Dimetra, and Murray. How about this since we didn't offer a contract to Carter we re-sign him on the cheap and then sign the last 3 of these guys and say bite me to every one else ?

No but really I am a big fan of the last 3 on the list and would love to see Murray back, and I like Dimetra with Ottawa only to see the Blues steal him away. Nedved I just love his fast shot, but Kariya is small and I dont like thoughs types .

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All we need is Palffy and a healthy Allison. I don't think these two factors are beyond the realm of possibility. I haven't given up on Deader, either.

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All we need is Palffy and a healthy Allison. I don't think these two factors are beyond the realm of possibility. I haven't given up on Deader, either.

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But I thought the beliefe was that Deader and Allison were both gone and would not be coming back.

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But I thought the beliefe was that Deader and Allison were both gone and would not be coming back.
That's very likely, but there's also a chance they might return.

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I seriously think that signing anyone is a bad idea. It'll screw up with the comp picks we'll be owed in next years deep draft . . .
I've always like Nedved, but I tend to agree with you. Right now, we suck. So there is no better time to rebuild.

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kings don't need nedved and his salary demands...monies would be better served to get a top 2 defenseman imo...

hey legionnaire, thats one funny sig you got there.......kingsjohn is very wise

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kings don't need nedved and his salary demands...monies would be better served to get a top 2 defenseman imo...

Wha chu talkin bout willis?

The Kings are stacked on D.

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According to Slamsports, there's "speculation" that the Kings are 1 of 4 teams interested in Petr Nedved....

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam040703/nhl_edm-sun.html

I had heard that the kings were after both conroy and rolston. So getting Nedved isnt out of the question. My only question is, what about Army, Ebell, Squid, and Pirnes who are all centers as well?

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kings don't need nedved and his salary demands...monies would be better served to get a top 2 defenseman imo...

hey legionnaire, thats one funny sig you got there.......kingsjohn is very wise

Somebody finally gave me a funny one!

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Wha chu talkin bout willis?

The Kings are stacked on D.
by stacked you mean number of defenseman then you're correct...talentwise, i think the kings are just a little above average...

norstrom - top 2 defenseman

miller - lets face it, had a horrible year last year. will he bounce back? we still don't know.

visnovski - excellent year last year...but before that he had a bad year...he may be inconsistent and we won't know who will show up next season.

gleason - still a rookie and will still make alot of mistakes (hopefully he'll prove me wrong here but can't really count on a 2nd year guy)

quintal - good stay at home defenseman (being a 3rd pairing he's good)...the bad, he's slow and since he's playing in the much faster western conference, i'm afraid it'll show his shortcomings.

dempsey - above average defenseman that can score...i'm sorry but he's not a schneider...

lots of question mark...but acquiring a top 2 defenseman would get the kings close to being 'stacked' as you say...

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by stacked you mean number of defenseman then you're correct...talentwise, i think the kings are just a little above average...

norstrom - top 2 defenseman

miller - lets face it, had a horrible year last year. will he bounce back? we still don't know.

visnovski - excellent year last year...but before that he had a bad year...he may be inconsistent and we won't know who will show up next season.

gleason - still a rookie and will still make alot of mistakes (hopefully he'll prove me wrong here but can't really count on a 2nd year guy)

quintal - good stay at home defenseman (being a 3rd pairing he's good)...the bad, he's slow and since he's playing in the much faster western conference, i'm afraid it'll show his shortcomings.

dempsey - above average defenseman that can score...i'm sorry but he's not a schneider...

lots of question mark...but acquiring a top 2 defenseman would get the kings close to being 'stacked' as you say...

There is no doubt in my mind that Vis will have a great year.

Also, as long as Miller is healthy he will as well.

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j, you forgot to pencil in grebeshkov for 20 minutes a night and 50 points. i mean, c'mon, the guy craps upside.

seriously, i wouldn't sign anyone else. none of the aforementioned are game-breakers, and we might as well get better comp picks and have another hungry kid in there. the only players that i would want back are ziggy and allison.

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by stacked you mean number of defenseman then you're correct...talentwise, i think the kings are just a little above average...

norstrom - top 2 defenseman

miller - lets face it, had a horrible year last year. will he bounce back? we still don't know.

visnovski - excellent year last year...but before that he had a bad year...he may be inconsistent and we won't know who will show up next season.

gleason - still a rookie and will still make alot of mistakes (hopefully he'll prove me wrong here but can't really count on a 2nd year guy)

quintal - good stay at home defenseman (being a 3rd pairing he's good)...the bad, he's slow and since he's playing in the much faster western conference, i'm afraid it'll show his shortcomings.

dempsey - above average defenseman that can score...i'm sorry but he's not a schneider...

lots of question mark...but acquiring a top 2 defenseman would get the kings close to being 'stacked' as you say...
For the record

Lubo had 29 points in 58 games for a .5 point per game average.

Shneider had 46 points in 78 games for a .589 point per games. It isnt that much of an improvment.

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miller - lets face it, had a horrible year last year. will he bounce back? we still don't know.

visnovski - excellent year last year...but before that he had a bad year...he may be inconsistent and we won't know who will show up next season.
so basically, your counting out two good players based on the assumption that they may or may not have a good year next year. Class, welcome to circular reasoning.


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gleason - still a rookie and will still make alot of mistakes (hopefully he'll prove me wrong here but can't really count on a 2nd year guy)j
not many people had complaints about gleason last year. he will probably not be a great defenseman next year but he'll be sturdy. Mistakes are made by everyone, including veterans. And why don't we go ask Frolov if he thinks we can count on a 2nd year guy.

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quintal - good stay at home defenseman (being a 3rd pairing he's good)...the bad, he's slow and since he's playing in the much faster western conference, i'm afraid it'll show his shortcomings.

dempsey - above average defenseman that can score...i'm sorry but he's not a schneider...
these are two proven defensemen and you are still finding ways to count them out. Quintal will be fine as a #5 and #6 and dempsey is a good top 4 defenseman. I am very comfortable with dempsey BOTH defensively and offensively. cant say the same with schneider.

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lots of question mark...but acquiring a top 2 defenseman would get the kings close to being 'stacked' as you say...
even after you going through it, i still don't see why you think we're short. dempsey, miller, norstrom, and lubo make up a helluva top 4 combo that consists of both sturdy stay-at-home defensemen and defensively-sound, offensively-oriented defensemen. corvo, gleason, grebeshkov, quintal, and heck, even zizka round out a very good #5 and #6 set with 3 capable fillers that can hold the ground until the defensemen come back.

the ONLY argument I can see against our defense is that 2 of our top 4 are fairly injury prone. But even with that, I'm quite comfortable having grebeshkov or corvo coming in and taking 20 games under their belt. Are we the best defense int he league? no, but we sure aren't weak.

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the ONLY argument I can see against our defense is that 2 of our top 4 are fairly injury prone. But even with that, I'm quite comfortable having grebeshkov or corvo coming in and taking 20 games under their belt. Are we the best defense int he league? no, but we sure aren't weak.
I agree.

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so basically, your counting out two good players based on the assumption that they may or may not have a good year next year. Class, welcome to circular reasoning.




not many people had complaints about gleason last year. he will probably not be a great defenseman next year but he'll be sturdy. Mistakes are made by everyone, including veterans. And why don't we go ask Frolov if he thinks we can count on a 2nd year guy.



these are two proven defensemen and you are still finding ways to count them out. Quintal will be fine as a #5 and #6 and dempsey is a good top 4 defenseman. I am very comfortable with dempsey BOTH defensively and offensively. cant say the same with schneider.



even after you going through it, i still don't see why you think we're short. dempsey, miller, norstrom, and lubo make up a helluva top 4 combo that consists of both sturdy stay-at-home defensemen and defensively-sound, offensively-oriented defensemen. corvo, gleason, grebeshkov, quintal, and heck, even zizka round out a very good #5 and #6 set with 3 capable fillers that can hold the ground until the defensemen come back.

the ONLY argument I can see against our defense is that 2 of our top 4 are fairly injury prone. But even with that, I'm quite comfortable having grebeshkov or corvo coming in and taking 20 games under their belt. Are we the best defense int he league? no, but we sure aren't weak.

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I will never forget seeing Nedved ask Gretzky for his stick on-ice after the Kings eliminated the Canucks during their Stanley Cup appearance year. Nedved was a wuss to ask for that stick after his team got beaten, he is a soft player and is not a #1 center. The Kings would do better to resign Allison, even if he cant play he would still be better than Nedhead.

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so basically, your counting out two good players based on the assumption that they may or may not have a good year next year. Class, welcome to circular reasoning.
ummmm...i was saying that there are question marks on defense and they are far from 'solid'...
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not many people had complaints about gleason last year. he will probably not be a great defenseman next year but he'll be sturdy. Mistakes are made by everyone, including veterans. And why don't we go ask Frolov if he thinks we can count on a 2nd year guy.
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ummmm...i did say i hope i was wrong didn't i?
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these are two proven defensemen and you are still finding ways to count them out. Quintal will be fine as a #5 and #6 and dempsey is a good top 4 defenseman. I am very comfortable with dempsey BOTH defensively and offensively. cant say the same with schneider.
again, i'm not counting them out...i'm merely stating that the kings are far from solid...but you prefer dempsey...and i prefer schneider...you're entitled to your opinion...i'm not shoving mine down anyone's throat...
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even after you going through it, i still don't see why you think we're short. dempsey, miller, norstrom, and lubo make up a helluva top 4 combo that consists of both sturdy stay-at-home defensemen and defensively-sound, offensively-oriented defensemen. corvo, gleason, grebeshkov, quintal, and heck, even zizka round out a very good #5 and #6 set with 3 capable fillers that can hold the ground until the defensemen come back.
ok.
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the ONLY argument I can see against our defense is that 2 of our top 4 are fairly injury prone. But even with that, I'm quite comfortable having grebeshkov or corvo coming in and taking 20 games under their belt. Are we the best defense int he league? no, but we sure aren't weak.
and if you see my post again...i said we're abit above average...not weak...

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j, you forgot to pencil in grebeshkov for 20 minutes a night and 50 points. i mean, c'mon, the guy craps upside.
agentfauser, i hope you're right...

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