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07-03-2004, 09:07 PM
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I have two words for you Salary cap. Flyers trying to reduce the team salary because they know if there is a salary cap in next CBA... Flyers will be way over it.. I do not see this happen but you can sure dream about it... Good Luck...
By the way Sykora made $4.2 Millions last year and he has two years around $10 Millions grantee contract... Smyth made $3.4 Millions last year and I am not sure how much he will make this coming year.. Compare to these two players Handzus made only $1.5 Millions... I would rather have Handzus over those players business and players wise...

On Turner Stevenson in TSN players profile
"Is strong along the boards and possesses good body-checking skills. Can kill penalties and is a solid defensive forward. Displays sound leadership qualities."

Big winder but slow skater... I don't know why Clarke signed him..

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/player_b...167&hubName=NJ
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physicalness
something Brashear seemed to forget how to do enough of.

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07-03-2004, 09:21 PM
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I have two words for you Salary cap. Flyers trying to reduce the team salary because they know if there is a salary cap in next CBA... Flyers will be way over it.. I do not see this happen but you can sure dream about it... Good Luck...
By the way Sykora made $4.2 Millions last year and he has two years around $10 Millions grantee contract... Smyth made $3.4 Millions last year and I am not sure how much he will make this coming year.. Compare to these two players Handzus made only $1.5 Millions... I would rather have Handzus over those players business and players wise...

On Turner Stevenson in TSN players profile
"Is strong along the boards and possesses good body-checking skills. Can kill penalties and is a solid defensive forward. Displays sound leadership qualities."

Big winder but slow skater... I don't know why Clarke signed him..

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/player_b...167&hubName=NJ
I don't think 2 million dollars is really too much of a factor, especially considering that Zus is an RFA and his salary will likely be upped into the 2.5 million dollar range. The flyers need scoring wingers if Zhamnov is resigned. They are real real solid down the middle, but with the departures of Recchi, Leclair, and Amonte there only scoring wingers are Gagne and Roenick. Both Smyth and Sykora would be perfect on this team and both players have shown that they can get it done in the playoffs, something that Handzus has not. That being said, it is not likely that the flyers could acquire Smyth for Zus, but Sykora could be a possibility as he is rumored to be on the block.

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07-03-2004, 09:29 PM
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Knuble isn't Recchi a few years younger by any means.
I'd have to agree with that. However, Knuble is certainly the replacement for not resigning Recchi.

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I don't think 2 million dollars is really too much of a factor, especially considering that Zus is an RFA and his salary will likely be upped into the 2.5 million dollar range. The flyers need scoring wingers if Zhamnov is resigned. They are real real solid down the middle, but with the departures of Recchi, Leclair, and Amonte there only scoring wingers are Gagne and Roenick. Both Smyth and Sykora would be perfect on this team and both players have shown that they can get it done in the playoffs, something that Handzus has not. That being said, it is not likely that the flyers could acquire Smyth for Zus, but Sykora could be a possibility as he is rumored to be on the block.
Last time I checked Leclair and Amonte is still Flyers... Unless you know something we don't know... Please do share with us...

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one word
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something Brashear seemed to forget how to do enough of.
HAHA is Physicalness a word? But w/e I really like these signings and I really dont want zeus traded. He is our 2nd or 3rd best defencive forward only behind Prims and maby Gange. I would also like Handzus over Zhamnov.If we were to trade Zeus i would expect a either a first and an ok player or a player like a taungay or even a player like Brendan Morrison. IMO Handzus will be with us for a whil e.

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I'd have to agree with that. However, Knuble is certainly the replacement for not resigning Recchi.
Agreed, Stanley.

Good signings by Clarke. I like both of these players and I think they can help the team in different ways. These signings also reduce the chances that Amonte and LeClair return to the team.

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Ok, so we sign Knuble instead of Recchi?

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07-03-2004, 09:41 PM
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Recchi can play LW if he's interested in coming back.

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I think this might mean that Zhamnov is also done in Philly although it slightly worries me that Clarke seems like he might be returning to the "big bad Flyers" I like Knuble a lot though and Stevenson is the type of guy that every team can use.

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These are solid signs that will not break the bank.
We needed a Knuble, a guy that plays hard and can chip in about 20 goals to go on the second line.
Stevenson is great, a bit over the top but I agree that Brash and/or Feds will be dealt when the time is right. I worry about his health, but if I could get value for Brash in a pick I would move him as Turner will likely make about half of what Brash is due and fills a similar role for the team.
We could still see Rex back and I hope so but I would doubt Zhamnov.

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07-03-2004, 10:13 PM
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If Recchi does not come back:
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The Oilers aren’t the only team trying to ink 32-year-old center Petr Nedved to a contract, reports the Edmonton Sun.

Barry would not confirm the interested teams, with the New York Rangers, Toronto Maple Leafs and Philadelphia Flyers all rumored to have inquired. There's also been speculation the Los Angeles Kings are interested, but Barry neither confirmed nor denied that.
Would Nedved be a good fit on the Flyers? He's 6'3, other than that I don't know. One thing I do like is he's not injury prone and he played better after getting out of NY.
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Barry will be talking to the Oilers over the weekend. GM Kevin Lowe is believed to be pitching a three-year contract in the range of $8 million-$9 million.
That's less than what Zhamnov turned down.

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Would Nedved be a good fit on the Flyers? He's 6'3, other than that I don't know. One thing I do like is he's not injury prone and he played better after getting out of NY.
I never liked Nedved, especially after he pulled that stunt in Pittsburgh.

That being said, he can play wing, and he's always been a very talented playmaker.

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07-03-2004, 10:50 PM
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Clarke stays true to his word by:

a.) Not signing players right now because “there’s players out there we know we’d like to have on our team in the future, but they don’t know how much money they should make and we don’t know how much money they should make”, and

b.) Trying to get the team younger

*sigh*

I just seriously hope Knuble wasn't payed much more than $2 million, and Stevenson less than $1 million.


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Stevenson will be paid at least 1.3M because he stated that he would refuse to take a pay-cut, and his interview said he was happy with the money... so....

I'm upset about this. Of all the teams for him to go to, he had to choose you guys. Bah.

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http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature.asp?fid=9229 I think it's been set.

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I think it's safe to say Clarke got Knuble for Primeau's right side, as he sees Primeau as a watered down version of Thornton. Best bet is Kapanen on his left side. Third line becomes a mystery with the only sure thing being Handzus. Maybe Radivojevic on the right but who on the left? Stevenson? Carter?

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Brashear, Recchi, LeClair, Amonte, and Lapointe gone. Fedoruk the extra.

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I think it's safe to say Clarke got Knuble for Primeau's right side, as he sees Primeau as a watered down version of Thornton. Best bet is Kapanen on his left side. Third line becomes a mystery with the only sure thing being Handzus. Maybe Radivojevic on the right but who on the left? Stevenson? Carter?

Gagne-Zhamnov-Roenick
Kapanen-Primeau-Knuble
Carter-Handzus-Radivojevic
Somik-Sharp-Stevenson

Brashear, Recchi, LeClair, Amonte, and Lapointe gone. Fedoruk the extra.
Huge assumption Zhamnov is returning, and especially that Carter is being moved to wing.

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You guys will like Stevenson. He's not fast, but he leads by example with his effort on the ice. I've seen him turn the momentum many times with a big hit along the boards or gutsy play in the corners. He never quits and can make things happen. He'll also drop the gloves to defend teammates even when he's overmatched. I understand that some of you are concerned about his speed, but it's not so horrible that he's a liability.

I hope NJ fans don't boo him when plays here, he worked he worked hard for us.

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Wow, this really caught me by surprise. We thought about Demitra the last few days, and now Clarkie inks Mike Knuble, which probably means the end of Rex in Philly .
But all in all, thi sis a good signing because we now have a solid 2nd line winger, who play both LW or RW. A big gritty player, who loves to get the job done along the boards. It's a nice addition.
The signing of Stevenson is great too. He will be a much more efficient fourth liner than Brash. And he adds size on the wing.

But we still have a big mess concerning the line up! Who will play at center? Who will be on the wings? etc. Many of you are speculating on a ideal roster but I just think it's way too early to set a probable roster. Just be patient...

BTW, why almost everybody is putting...
1 - Carter in the lineup??
2 - Carter on the wing??
Just wait training camp before such speculations. I hope he will crack the lineup. But he does, he will play center. No doubt about this!

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Knuble is Mark Recchi a few years younger.

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Easy there GKJ, that comment smells of homerism.

Personally, I wanted Recchi resigned, but in this day and age of CBA uncertainty it wasnt going to happen. Knuble is a nice pickup.

Edit: I think everyone is eager to put Carter into the lineup because that is what Clarke likes to do. He likes to throw the rookie into the starting line up and see what he can do. He did it with Gagne and Williams. I wouldnt be surprised to see him do it with Carter.


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Easy there GKJ, that comment smells of homerism.
I don't think so. Mike Knuble has always been underrated and not given enough credit. At least he'll get the role Mark Recchi was supposed to have the past 2 years. Put Knuble with Handzus instead of Somik and both will excel.

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Solid pick ups. Now if only we could dump Amonte, LeCrap, and Burke we would be golden. Rolston can come too.
You must be a young'un, dissing Big John like that. If you want to say he is over the hill, yesterday's news, making too much dough ray me, etc, then say it.People would respect that, but to dis a guy who gave his heart and soul to the OrganIzation is just wrong. LeClair has been a GREAT player for this team for many years. Show some respect.

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I think it's safe to say Clarke got Knuble for Primeau's right side, as he sees Primeau as a watered down version of Thornton. Best bet is Kapanen on his left side. Third line becomes a mystery with the only sure thing being Handzus. Maybe Radivojevic on the right but who on the left? Stevenson? Carter?

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Somik-Sharp-Stevenson

Brashear, Recchi, LeClair, Amonte, and Lapointe gone. Fedoruk the extra.

FWIW, knuble played LW for the past 2 years. great guy though.

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This means that Fedoruk and Brashear are gone. Brashear doesn't display his toughness often enough; Fedoruk doesn't have the skills for the NHL. It probably means that Carter and maybe Richards make the team. With Knuble and Stevenson on the ice with the rookies, teams will take less liberties with them.

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I really like both these signings. Knuble will really help the team and would be great with Primeau IMO. Stevensen is a perfect 3rd/4th liner for this team.

Now all we need to do is resign Zhamnov or pick up Demitra and the team will be set. If Carter makes the team - what a bonus.

Let's hope there's a season.

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