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03-09-2011, 06:04 PM
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Offseason: Shea Weber or Ryan Suter?

With the pred's team loaded at defense, is it possible that one of the two player has to go? Shea Weber will be Poile's top priority to get him re-signed, as he is their franchise but while at it, is it possible we can pry away suter from them? It would definitely help us gaining the PMD we require, he can score and also can help us with setting us up for our powerplay perhaps?

We can even look to go younger with their defensive prospects in Blum, Ellis, and Josi. I was just thinking about how weber is an RFA this upcomign off-season i was wondering what you guys think.

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03-09-2011, 06:13 PM
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Seems like they're still pretty high on Suter, but I'd love to pick him up. It's not going to happen though, he's pretty valuable to them. Maybe one of the prospects is available, I wouldn't really know

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i cant believe you even considered for a second that weber is a possibility

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I don't think they're letting go of their top two anytime in the near future.

If I had my way I'd try to nab Blum, he's the most NHL ready of that whole group of prospects as far as I know. He looks like he'll be a stud.

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i cant believe you even considered for a second that weber is a possibility
my friend perhaps you should read my post first haha

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03-09-2011, 06:19 PM
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I'd love to have Weber.

Imagine Phaneuf Aulie
Weber Schenn

that'd be a tough d to play against. But that would be way to much money on d. That's a problem we just finished fixing and you want go there again. We need to spend money on forwards. We dont score enough goals.

Personally I'd dangle both first round picks and see if anyone bites.

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Suter will be a UFA after next season, Then will be the time to get him, If available.

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I'd love to have Weber.

Imagine Phaneuf Aulie
Weber Schenn

that'd be a tough d to play against. But that would be way to much money on d. That's a problem we just finished fixing and you want go there again. We need to spend money on forwards. We dont score enough goals.

Personally I'd dangle both first round picks and see if anyone bites.
You think 2 late first-rounders is even close to fair value for Weber?

Or are you saying we should trade them for a forward... hard to tell...

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All just fantasy. No way on God's Green Earth either of those two are moved by the Preds unless there's an obvious situation where one wants out.

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my friend perhaps you should read my post first haha
lol i did read it. In my post, i said "for a second". I understand that you're not here preaching about picking up weber, i never said thats what you said. Based simply on the title of the thread i assumed that thought popped into your mind. haha

but why argue semantics. Having weber would be sweet! dont really know much about suter's play or his contract situation though.

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You think 2 late first-rounders is even close to fair value for Weber?

Or are you saying we should trade them for a forward... hard to tell...
hes saying trade for a forward

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All just fantasy. No way on God's Green Earth either of those two are moved by the Preds unless there's an obvious situation where one wants out.
I personally think that one of them will be moved either of an offensive player or maybe if poile sees its possible to draft a player they need with draft picks who knows, but suter would be the one I'd want personally. Weber, I love but seems unrealistic tbh, unless some miracle occurs.

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lol i did read it. In my post, i said "for a second". I understand that you're not here preaching about picking up weber, i never said thats what you said. Based simply on the title of the thread i assumed that thought popped into your mind. haha

but why argue semantics. Having weber would be sweet! dont really know much about suter's play or his contract situation though.
Ah so you did! And agreed ! It would be insane if we had him over here!!!!! Man would it be awesome!

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i cant believe you even considered for a second that weber is a possibility
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You think 2 late first-rounders is even close to fair value for Weber?

Or are you saying we should trade them for a forward... hard to tell...
I think we should trade the picks for a forward. We dont want go give up the type of assets it'll take to pry Weber out.

My priority list would be this

For UFA's obviously Richards and Erhoff but I doubt either will come here. They would only cost money. Then I'd move onto Parise. I'd move Mac if it means we could get him. New Jersey is in an interesting position because they are doing great without him which means he could be expendable.

But the one I personally want the most would be Statsny. I would definately move any of our 2 first round picks or Bozak/Macarthur for him. But any trade with him would start with Kadri.

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I don't think they're letting go of their top two anytime in the near future.

If I had my way I'd try to nab Blum, he's the most NHL ready of that whole group of prospects as far as I know. He looks like he'll be a stud.
Personally I'd want josi tbh, yea I understand blum is great and all but I just like josi quite and i think it might cost less as well to get him over here.

As well does anyone know if Blum is projected to like a clear cut No. 1 D or just another top 4 defensemen?

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03-09-2011, 06:32 PM
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I like where the OP is going with this..yea lets get Weber..

what the hell? lets get Chara as well

Chara Weber
Phaneuf Shenn
Aulie Gunnarson


Actually, if we got Duncan Keith it would be even better

Chara Weber
Phaneuf Keith
Aulie Schenn

I dont see why this cant happen

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I like where the OP is going with this..yea lets get Weber..

what the hell? lets get Chara as well

Chara Weber
Phaneuf Shenn
Aulie Gunnarson


Actually, if we got Duncan Keith it would be even better

Chara Weber
Phaneuf Keith
Aulie Schenn

I dont see why this cant happen
Screw that man, we are getting Chris pronger with lupul going and doughty by trading away juraj mikus!

Again I didn't even propose that we go for weber lol, tbh it's more focused on suter.

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Last time I checked our number one priority is to get more offence so why would we use the few assets we have to grab a d-man? This doesn't even have anything to do with Suter or Weber because both are pretty amazing players.

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Last time I checked our number one priority is to get more offence so why would we use the few assets we have to grab a d-man? This doesn't even have anything to do with Suter or Weber because both are pretty amazing players.
Never can have enough good players, but I guess it just came to my mind when I was thinking of our powerplay.

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I would only do it if a guy like Schenn got an offer-sheet.

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You know how much Burkie loves his Americans like Suter.

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Well Suter is an excellent player, i'm sure Burke would love him even if he was not.

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I like Suter better than Weber, but getting either one of them would cost a lot more than it would make sense to give.

I'm not sure Suter is the guy we need to go after though, especially not at the cost of assets. As great as he is, I don't think his offensive abilities are quite at the level the Leafs need. The priority should be a guy like Ehrhoff (and maybe Pitkanen and Wiz) in free agency, and if unable to get the guy they need, the Leafs should explore trade options.

I'm not sure who would be available as a trade option, maybe someone like Liles. PMD aren't exactly at a premium, and that is what the Leafs are going to need to get their hands on. Suter can move the puck, but the price for him would probably be very steep. Hopefully the Leafs manage to sign somebody and not have to pay a ransom to bring someone in.

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I don't do proposals, but I'll give it a shot with Kadri + Lupul + 1st rounder + pick/prospect for either. Other teams could do much better, but that's close to the maximum Leafs could give up without harming their future that Burke has slowly restocked.

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You know how much Burkie loves his Americans like Suter.
I hate it when people say this. Are Captain is Canadian. We only have 5 Americans on the whole team. We have mostly Canadian players (13 in total). But no Burkie loves his Americans...

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