I couldnt agree with you more. Mcdavid being granted exceptional status could finally put this team back together. If he comes to Erie im sure other players would consider reporting because of what he can bring to a team. Put that with the 42 million dollar renovations and maybe just maybe this team could win again. Of course Bassin could be a problem but with Dave Brown in Erie im hoping he starts calling the shots.
Thanks for the clarification on the Schmaltz kids. The ST kid who I believe is 6'5" will definitely be a first rounder, because of his size.
Hey Tiger, be honest with the viewing public, " who is number #1 for this year's OHL draft, if McDavid gets exceptional status?", and are you hearing the same things as me, that a certain team is trying to lure a top 1-2 pick to 5th or 6th pick overall??
Are you referring to Ho-Sang and Windsor? If so I'm not sure what the problem is; Windsor will likely finish with a pick in the 3-5 range with Soo and Pbo; and haven't you been one of vocal proponents of Ho-Sang falling to that range? Or do you figure that Ho-Sang is a top-2 pick and Windsor is trying to manipulate the draft?
I look at a kid like Jacob Middleton, who would be a slam dunk top 5 selection any of the past three years, will probably be a 7-9th pick. Someone like Spencer Watson going in the bottom half of the first round, or Dante Salituro not cracking the top ten.
The second round, which will feature kids like Abou Assey, Miller, Di Perna and others could be better then some first rounds. I do think there will be a lack of defenceman in this draft, which may be the only fault. Even a kid like Perlini, who could be a top 10 pick last year, will be a late first or high second. Its really impressive.
First time posting and wondered what your thoughts are on the lack of defenceman. Why do you think that might be? Is it that they are not around? Or that in general D are not seen as key(not that they aren't very important)? I do know some coaches that take a position that if a player can't make it as a forward they can always play D. Just wondering
First time posting and wondered what your thoughts are on the lack of defenceman. Why do you think that might be? Is it that they are not around? Or that in general D are not seen as key(not that they aren't very important)? I do know some coaches that take a position that if a player can't make it as a forward they can always play D. Just wondering
Its not a lack of defenceman (perhaps my words where poor), its a lack of high potential defenceman. There are a high amount of forwards with high potential, with a limited amount of high potential defenceman.
With regards to 'switching' positions, I think youll find that they is not a rich history of that being successful long term in the OHL.
Thanks for the clarification Tigers.There are so many high end forward prospects in this draft that it's easier than in most years to look and marvel at some of the top end talent mentioned here.
Looking forward to the hockey that is left this weekend but speaking of D specifically and after just having watched 4 of 5 games at the GTHL championships don't understand why more is not made of Di Perna. He plays at both ends of the rink, has a cannon for shot and likes to be physical also. More importantly, for an offensive D he has great size and plays very well in his own end. This fact I think may ironically have affected how people see him April 7. His responsibile decisions about when to go are often not recognized when others like McKewan go all the time. Speaking of which, I've seen McKewan play about 15-20 times this year and while I agree with everything that is said about him I have been consistently impressed also by his defensive minded D partner, Allen. In game 1 of the finals Allen literally ran over Bourne, Hargrave and Pastorious in the neutral zone in the first 6 minutes of the game. Except for a bit of a flurry from Pastorious in game 4 none of the others came through the neutral zone with the puck again from that moment till the end of the series that I saw. He is never, ever out of position, skates well for a big guy and has a great stick, kills penalties and his net presence is huge. On a team filled with high end offensive prospects a player like this that can be that hard to play against has a bright future ahead of him at the next level IMO. There are many, many other D to watch for also in thr future but Cummins in Whitby is a good 2 way guy and Centorame from the Rebels impressed also.
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Originally Posted by Tigers1992
Its not a lack of defenceman (perhaps my words where poor), its a lack of high potential defenceman. There are a high amount of forwards with high potential, with a limited amount of high potential defenceman.
With regards to 'switching' positions, I think youll find that they is not a rich history of that being successful long term in the OHL.
DeSousa on the Marlies seems to be flying under the radar in this thread. He had an excellent Championship series and has some snarl to his game. Should at least crack the second round based on his skill-set and intensity.
Diperna is well regarded. Not too many guys can skate like him. He is in that top tier for skating defenseman in this draft. Diperna already has an OHL shot as well. I find Diperna has stretches when he disappears. When he wants to he can go end to end with his skating ability.
One guy not talked about much. Danylo Znaczko he is going to be a very solid pick. I think this kid will end up playing better than alot of kids drafted above him.
Jeremiah Addison maybe has the best release in minor midget. He has the best shot on the Marlboros in my view.
I watched the Rebels about 25 times this year and Matt Alvaro always stood out to me. His work ethic is a joy to watch. He has some tenacity and grit to his game.
Im surprised know one mentioned Dawson Carty's goaltending performance in game #5.
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Really interested in everyone's MOCK drafts, lets see a few... i find it pretty interesting, all the different opinions and who you guys have the bulls picking
The drafting order is starting to set itself up, and by the end of this weekend, we should have a more accurate picture of the order:
1) Erie- McDavid (if he gets ES)
2) Kingston- Mckeown
3) Soo- Fabbri
4) Petes- Cornell
5) Windsor- Ho Sang
6) Guelph-McCann
7) Majors- Dal Colle
8) Oshawa- Middleton
9) kingston-Bennett
10) Saginaw- Schmaltz
Belleville may finish out of the the bottom 10, which is good for the team, but bad for a solid draft pick. Sorry Bullsfan.
There are alot of rumours out there, and as the days pass, I am questioning my initial decisions.
This seems accurate, but the main factor that will influence all of our mock drafts if what Kingston does at #2. To me, it is the most interesting story of the entire draft.
I think if Kingston goes with McKeown, Chewer's mock is very reliable except for maybe a reach having Schmaltz at 10 because of his reporting concerns.
As a result, here is a top ten with current standings if Kingston takes Ho-Sang at #2:
1. Erie- Connor McDavid (unquestionable #1 unless denied somehow exceptional status)
2. Kingston- Josh Ho-Sang (this mock is meant to show what might shake out if he goes here)
3. Soo- Robbie Fabbri (having family ties to Soo is an added bonus)
4. Petes- Roland McKeown (assuming he reports)
5. Windsor- Jared McCann (he would likely report to Spits)
6. Guelph- Mike Dal Colle (could very easily flip-flop with Cornel)
7. Missy- Brett Hargrave (pick could be forward or d-man since Majors need both)
8. Oshawa- Jacob Middleton (Gennies need defence)
9. Kingston- Sam Bennett (will strongly consider a d-man or Herbst too)
10. Belleville- Eric Cornel (would be a steal if he fell this low)
Again, this mock is only meant to show what could happen if Ho-Sang gets picked by the Fronts.
I actually believe McKeown is a better fit considering their situation, but Ho-Sang is definitely a solid pick regardless. If they take him, that 9th pick has many options (Bennett to play with Ho-Sang if no elite defence are left, or take Herbst for your goalie of the future).
Will anybody be going to watch the OHL cup next week? Will that not influence any of the picks, what if certain kids shine in the tournament? Just curious if this tournament is really a big deal to many as it is made out to be, i will be there watching and I'm sure others will be too and I look forward to watching some fantastic skill and talent next week.
What about the Wildcard teams that were picked such as Vaughan Kings, Toronto Nats etc. any prospects to be coming from there? I know Dal Colle is expected to go high but what about the supporting cast on the team? Anything in your opinion ? Just as well the Smith twins on the Nationals squad play really well together and have amazing speed and their goalie Hayden Lavigne ? Any word on him if he's expected to go in the draft? If taken late in the draft could be a real steal.
Any thoughts and opinions strongly appreciated, I have my own idea of who I will be watching next week but just curious as to what you guys think
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Not sure how much he's played against top MM competition, but he's proven himself against some pretty good Junior A teams since his MM team was knocked out of the playoffs. He has 4 points in his last 5 games with Kemptville.
DeSousa on the Marlies seems to be flying under the radar in this thread. He had an excellent Championship series and has some snarl to his game. Should at least crack the second round based on his skill-set and intensity.
Don't be surprised if he goes in the first round. I know of a few teams looking at him as such. He had a 190 lb monkey on his back all year and the scouts all know that. When he will be able to play without that fear you will see an excellant player. Kid has great speed, skill and is without a doubt the toughest and strongest kid on the Marlies.
MacInnis may have already signed with the US-NTDP.
He probably is still a top 40 pick, but there has never been a player drafted in the first round under the new US-NTDP signing rules.
Once a player signs with the USNTDP, he has to pay $50,000k to get him out of that commitment.
Can't see him playing here. I would think that his dad would want him using the college deal that he would already have sitting in his pocket to the school of his choice.
In Windsor area regarding Sun County and Windsor Minor there are 8 players rated for the draft,with Goalie Matt Mancina or Rw Haydon Hodgson likely the 1st tobe picked not in the 1st rd but in the 2nd or 3rd rd
Would not surprise me if Mancina winds up Plymouth,using their 2nd rd pick
Hodgson could go late 2nd maybe Windsor,but this kid has other options as he is a highly regarded baseball pitcher,throws 85 miles per hour as a 15 year old and he is a lefty to boot
Baseball Canada is already in touch with this boy
He is a big,tough skilled winger who will be appealing to many teams
Another player to watch is centre Joe Manchurek from Sun County,big kid who can skate,shoot and stickhandle
He is one of triplets who play for Sun County,the other 2 brothers,one a LW and the other a D-man are rated to go between the 11-15 rds
In Windsor area regarding Sun County and Windsor Minor there are 8 players rated for the draft,with Goalie Matt Mancina or Rw Haydon Hodgson likely the 1st tobe picked not in the 1st rd but in the 2nd or 3rd rd
Would not surprise me if Mancina winds up Plymouth,using their 2nd rd pick
Hodgson could go late 2nd maybe Windsor,but this kid has other options as he is a highly regarded baseball pitcher,throws 85 miles per hour as a 15 year old and he is a lefty to boot
Baseball Canada is already in touch with this boy
He is a big,tough skilled winger who will be appealing to many teams
Another player to watch is centre Joe Manchurek from Sun County,big kid who can skate,shoot and stickhandle
He is one of triplets who play for Sun County,the other 2 brothers,one a LW and the other a D-man are rated to go between the 11-15 rds
Haven't seen Hodgson play but Mancina and Manchurek could both go in the 2nd round. Mancina might be the second goalie chosen.
Will anybody be going to watch the OHL cup next week? Will that not influence any of the picks, what if certain kids shine in the tournament? Just curious if this tournament is really a big deal to many as it is made out to be, i will be there watching and I'm sure others will be too and I look forward to watching some fantastic skill and talent next week.
Oh yeah. Just ask Sean Monahan and Aaron Berisha what a great OHL Cup can do for you.
