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03-10-2011, 06:56 PM
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03-10-2011, 07:22 PM
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Just to throw in my .02, I love how a single injury makes a guy who has played in 82, 74, 81, and 76 games in his only four full seasons in the NHL before this one "injury prone".
I know right, nobody on here seems to understand what injury prone means. Hemsky just has bad luck.

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03-10-2011, 07:28 PM
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People around the league need to start realizing and accepting the reality that John Tavares is a star and is unquestionably the Isles best player regardless of who's healthy.
Regardless of how good Tavares has been this season a healthy Streit would have been the best player on the Isles anyways. Streit is really good.

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03-10-2011, 07:33 PM
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One of Krugers boys from the Olympics.

Oilers offer Gilbert, Brule, Stortini

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Streit, Jurcina

There isn't one Oiler player in your proposal,that Snow would want as the key to a Streit trade.

Want a #1 d-man without giving up any significant talent?Sign a ufa.

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03-10-2011, 08:05 PM
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The starting point for negotiations would have to be something like the Oilers 2011 1st or Eberle
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03-10-2011, 08:20 PM
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People around the league need to start realizing and accepting the reality that John Tavares is a star and is unquestionably the Isles best player regardless of who's healthy.
going into the season, tavares outscored streit by 5 points and streit is a dman. going into the season, streit was top 10 in norris trophy voting two years in a row and going into the season i am 95% certain without looking it up that streit was top 5(3) in ice time in the league. tavares has 41 points in his last 40 games and really has broken out but going into the season, streit was the isles best player.
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Snow would laugh so hard at Tambo.

If we want Streit we gotta put in a package like Hemsky + Smid as a base.
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The starting point for negotiations would have to be something like the Oilers 2011 1st or Eberle

the first was a good start and the second is overpayment if its eberle on the oilers part due to how good eberle has been and his impact on a rebuilding team vs a team like say boston who can give up a hefty price for a dman of streits caliber (as we saw with them trading for kaberle and in play and contract streit>kaberle easily.)

but it doesnt matter..isles wont trade streit

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03-11-2011, 02:14 AM
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I know right, nobody on here seems to understand what injury prone means. Hemsky just has bad luck.
Those are Streit's GP numbers, broseph. Hemsky's are worse, though not as bad as people make them out to be still.

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03-11-2011, 02:24 AM
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One of Krugers boys from the Olympics.

Oilers offer Gilbert, Brule, Stortini

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Streit, Jurcina
So the Oilers offer nothing of value?

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03-11-2011, 02:37 AM
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So the Oilers offer nothing of value?
No.... they're offering something of lesser value if you read the origional post.

Nothing of value... that's like Jeff Finger or Sheldon Souray@5.4M.

Lesser.

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03-11-2011, 09:44 AM
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In general, any trades between these teams will either be very minor or one real building block for another.

The teams are far too similar in their goals and make-up.

Both are in a rebuild/yourth movement and almost at the same stage. The Isles are just slightly ahead of them and both have some key pieces in place.

It'd be something else if they're duking it out for the cup in 4 or 5 year's time.

As for now, no such deal as the one from the OP is likely to take place.

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03-12-2011, 07:15 AM
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Mark Streit can only be dealt to a contender.

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sure, just give us Hemsky and Hall

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i hope edm acquires a dman or 2 so they dont draft larsson and he falls to col!!

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Unless Edmonton's 1st round pick (that would be Edm. pick, not LAs) is on the table, there is nothing more to discuss — and that just starts the discuss.

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Unless Edmonton's 1st round pick (that would be Edm. pick, not LAs) is on the table, there is nothing more to discuss — and that just starts the discuss.
Just starts it lol. Pretending Tavares is not an islander you're saying its Tavares+ for any deal to happen?

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Do Oiler fans really think Gilbert Brule adds any value to a trade?

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03-12-2011, 09:17 PM
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03-12-2011, 09:45 PM
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Unless Edmonton's 1st round pick (that would be Edm. pick, not LAs) is on the table, there is nothing more to discuss — and that just starts the discuss.
ahha, i know the ops proposal is bad but cmon lets not get carried away now?

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ahha, i know the ops proposal is bad but cmon lets not get carried away now?
honestly that would be a starting point

something like Streit and a 2nd

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Edmontons 1st and Smid or something

Streit's value is FAR more than most oiler fans seem to think, id find it highly unlikely that Snow would consider moving our defensive fulcrom and offensive triggerman

Just like you wouldnt move Whitney for Radek Martinek

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Just starts it lol. Pretending Tavares is not an islander you're saying its Tavares+ for any deal to happen?
Fantasy trades like the one proposed by the OP,are best kept on the OP's team board.That way,there will be a least one blind homer who agrees "yeah,that's totally fair"

Isles just put Schremp on waivers because they have a logjam in the top 6 and the smallish Schremp wsn't gritty enough for the bottom 6.Do Oiler fans really believe the isles want little Brule over Moulson,Tavares,PA,Grabner,Neilsen or KO in their top 6?

Or that the Isles would consider Gilbert to be an upgrade over Streit?

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03-12-2011, 09:57 PM
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honestly that would be a starting point

something like Streit and a 2nd

for

Edmontons 1st and Smid or something

Streit's value is more than most oiler fans seem to think, id find it highly unlikely that Snow would consider moving our defensive fulcrom and offensive triggerman
so your saying you WOULDNT do streit for our 1st ovr pick?

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Fantasy trades like the one proposed by the OP,are best kept on the OP's team board.That way,there will be a least one blind homer who agrees "yeah,that's totally fair"

Isles just put Schremp on waivers because they have a logjam in the top 6 and the smallish Schremp wsn't gritty enough for the bottom 6.Do Oiler fans really believe the isles want little Brule over Moulson,Tavares,PA,Grabner,Neilsen or KO in their top 6?

Or that the Isles would consider Gilbert to be an upgrade over Streit?
why are you quoting him? he never said the OP's trade was good... hes just pointing out isles are over valueing streit. so your post makes no sense.

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so your saying you WOULDNT do streit for our 1st ovr pick?
Me personally?

id think long and hard about it simply because from the value standpoint 7 years of Larsson can be better than an age 33-40 Streit and id take the risk since we're rebuilding, but thats only me and my personal feeling,

Do i think Snow would? no i do not, because He sees Streit as a key teacher and coach on the ice, critical to the long term growth of our prospects. he sees Streit as a catalyst to our future and I cant really disagree. I just personally feel that Larsson may be Streit one day and it could be a worthwhile risk

it depends because Streit has been very instrumental in nurturing our youth
and keeping the pressure off, even this season

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why are you quoting him? he never said the OP's trade was good... hes just pointing out isles are over valueing streit. so your post makes no sense.
How are the isles overvaluing Streit?

At 33 he's their best defensemen,logging a ton of minutes for them each season before this one.He's an assistant captain,a mentor/teacher for their young defenseman.

One poster above tried to spin it, that Streit's weak in his own end.That guy is so far off the mark,that I wonder how many of Streit's games he's actually watched.

Isles don't want to downgrade their defense,switching Streit for Gilbert.They don't want a little forward,who won't push their current top 6 out and who isn't gritty enough for the bottom 6.

So basically we're looking at a fantasy trade:give me your best defenseman and my gm will send lesser talents and spare parts.

Woohoo.How could Snow resist such a proposal?

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If we want Streit we gotta put in a package like Hemsky + Smid as a base.
As an Islander fan, I personally think that's not a halfbad base for a trade, though I know I'll get flamed by other Islanders fans for saying so. I'd still pass, but that's primarily because I think Streit is a lot more likely to re-sign with us than Hemsky would be.

In terms of paper value, it's not far off though, and does address needs of the Islanders. IMO, two of the teams' biggest needs are a right handed, speedy, playmaking winger for Tavares and a steady, defensive dman with decent size. Streit could possibly be replaced down the line by drafting Murphy or Hamilton. Of course, by that logic, we could also get the winger I mention needing by drafting Strome.

If Hemsky's contract had more than just the one season left, I would think the Islanders would have to consider that.

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How are the isles overvaluing Streit?

At 33 he's their best defensemen,logging a ton of minutes for them each season before this one.He's an assistant captain,a mentor/teacher for their young defenseman.

One poster above tried to spin it, that Streit's weak in his own end.That guy is so far off the mark,that I wonder how many of Streit's games he's actually watched.

Isles don't want to downgrade their defense,switching Streit for Gilbert.They don't want a little forward,who won't push their current top 6 out and who isn't gritty enough for the bottom 6.

So basically we're looking at a fantasy trade:give me your best defenseman and my gm will send lesser talents and spare parts.

Woohoo.How could Snow resist such a proposal?
I think he was referring more to the demand for their 1st rounder as just a starting point.


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