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03-10-2011, 05:27 PM
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Joe Colborne and picks

What would you give up for Colborne, Bostons 1st,phillies 1st and the Leafs 2nd round draft picks in 2011 if you were the gm of your team?
Yes this is a huge package and we know what Burke would probably want. But this forum is for fun so be creative.

I have a feeling the Leafs wont use the two firsts to draft and as much as I like the prospect of Colborne, I believe he is expendable with Grabo and Kadri ahead of him and Mckegg coming up.

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What would you give up for Colborne, Bostons 1st,phillies 1st and the Leafs 2nd round draft picks in 2011 if you were the gm of your team?
Yes this is a huge package and we know what Burke would probably want. But this forum is for fun so be creative.

I have a feeling the Leafs wont use the two firsts to draft and as much as I like the prospect of Colborne, I believe he is expendable with Grabo and Kadri ahead of him and Mckegg coming up.
I mean, its a good package.

A solid Center prospect, 2 late firsts and a 2nd. I would say probably some good bait for perhaps moving up in the draft?

Other than that, if you could find a team willing to part with a youngish top 6, that should get it done.

Not sure why you wouldn't want to wait for Colborne to develop though, has he been disappointing since coming over?

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Hemsky + Gagner
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I mean, its a good package.

A solid Center prospect, 2 late firsts and a 2nd. I would say probably some good bait for perhaps moving up in the draft?

Other than that, if you could find a team willing to part with a youngish top 6, that should get it done.

Not sure why you wouldn't want to wait for Colborne to develop though, has he been disappointing since coming over?
Not at all, he's almost at a point per game played

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leafs pass.

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leafs pass.
You won't find a better deal than that....

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how about no?

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You won't find a better deal than that....
hemsky = injury prone. won't even consider trading for him

gagner isn't worth colborne + 3 picks

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You won't find a better deal than that....
yes we can get a better player for that package.

a top prospect 2 1sts and a 2nd? you better believe we can better then that

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not just better. we can trade that for something the leafs need (ie. PMD)

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yes we can get a better player for that package.

a top prospect 2 1sts and a 2nd? you better believe we can better then that
Actually it's pretty close to market value.

Hemsky = Top Prospect + late 1st + 2nd (Penner got it; Hemsky would get it and a much better prospect)

Gagner = late 1st.

Hemsky needs a team with a more established top 6 than Edmonton. His injuries come from other teams being able to single him out as he IS Edmonton's offence (minus the new youth of course). His injuries aren't consistent (i.e always shoulder or bad foot) and could be avoided if he wasn't always THE focus. Very solid player and with a talented player could put up some serious points.

Gagner for a late 1st in a weak draft seams about right. You'd hope a 1st round pick progresses faster than Gagner but he's still young, consistent, and looks to be a solid, shifty, second line C. That is perhaps what you'd hope a late 1st in a weak draft would turn out to be...

That doesn't mean it's what Toronto needs. I don't think Hemsky is a good fit for them but it's what it would cost if they did want him.

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Leafs Trade: Joe Colborne, Bostons 1st, Phillys 1st, Leafs 2nd

Avalanche Trade: John Michael-Liles, Avs 1st, Ryan Stoa

What do you guys think?

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Actually it's pretty close to market value.

Hemsky = Top Prospect + late 1st + 2nd (Penner got it; Hemsky would get it and a much better prospect)

Gagner = late 1st.

Hemsky needs a team with a more established top 6 than Edmonton. His injuries come from other teams being able to single him out as he IS Edmonton's offence (minus the new youth of course). His injuries aren't consistent (i.e always shoulder or bad foot) and could be avoided if he wasn't always THE focus. Very solid player and with a talented player could put up some serious points.

Gagner for a late 1st in a weak draft seams about right. You'd hope a 1st round pick progresses faster than Gagner but he's still young, consistent, and looks to be a solid, shifty, second line C. That is perhaps what you'd hope a late 1st in a weak draft would turn out to be...

That doesn't mean it's what Toronto needs. I don't think Hemsky is a good fit for them but it's what it would cost if they did want him.

we need a top line C edonton doesn't have that

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Leafs Trade: Joe Colborne, Bostons 1st, Phillys 1st, Leafs 2nd

Avalanche Trade: John Michael-Liles, Avs 1st, Ryan Stoa

What do you guys think?
Avs isn't letting go of their 1st

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Leafs Trade: Joe Colborne, Bostons 1st, Phillys 1st, Leafs 2nd

Avalanche Trade: John Michael-Liles, Avs 1st, Ryan Stoa

What do you guys think?
Garbage pure Garbage

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I don't think Leafs are going to get anything that will be good for them in the long run. You can get a couple solid prospects with the picks. Take your time with a legitimate rebuild and keep the picks, develop your prospects so you can actually be a good team instead of trading for one good player.

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Hemsky + Gagner
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i'd do that... don't see the oilers doing that though, but we ungrade our centers and have someone to pass the puck to kessel in hemsky. hemsky-grabovski-kessel
kulemin-gagner-macarthur looks like a bad ass top 6.

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I don't think Leafs are going to get anything that will be good for them in the long run. You can get a couple solid prospects with the picks. Take your time with a legitimate rebuild and keep the picks, develop your prospects so you can actually be a good team instead of trading for one good player.
leafs are spending crazy on scouting... might as well use that money's worth on the draft, right?

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we need a top line C edonton doesn't have that
Tha'ts why I don't think Hemsky is a good fit for Toronto. He's never played left wing and neither has Kessel. Always a gamble and can very easily go bad when converting a winger from one side to the other. Not worth the risk to compete now.

What Edmonton needs are center prospects with first line potenial and d-men with #1 potential. Same as Toronto. Two teams that aren't good trading partners when it comes to big packages.

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Leafs Trade: Joe Colborne, Bostons 1st, Phillys 1st, Leafs 2nd

Avalanche Trade: John Michael-Liles, Avs 1st, Ryan Stoa

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Garbage pure Garbage
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Avs hang up the phone.
I mean it's a bad deal for the Leafs all that for liles Basically? no thanks the 1st does not make up the HUGE package we are giving up.

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avs first could be a lottery. it's worth something

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I mean it's a bad deal for the Leafs all that for liles Basically? no thanks the 1st does not make up the HUGE package we are giving up.
A lottery pick has more value than you give credit for, especially in a weak draft with top-heavy talent like this one.

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A lottery pick has more value than you give credit for, especially in a weak draft with top-heavy talent like this one.
Ding ding ding! Here it is Leafer Yayo quoted.
Liles is a PMD that you need, most likely could be re-signed during the offseason for more security on your side of the trade. Like comeon, your freaking Toronto, even tho your team isn't Playoff bound, guys still wanna sign there.

That First is now like 4th overall or something if it happened bottom team got first.
That's a hell of a lot better than trading 2 1sts around 25-30 n a 2nd n only moving up to 15-20.

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Colborne + Philly 1st + Bos 1st + Tor 2nd the new Kaberle which was preceded by Ryder, Halak and a 2nd

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