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05-15-2013, 10:38 AM
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2013 NHL Draft Rankings – War Room May Edition

Round 4 of the 2013 NHL Draft Rankings – War Room May Edition in now up @ TheHockeyWriters.com.

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Round three has now been posted @ TheHockeyWriters.com

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Here is round 4. Round 2 to be posted @ 10:17 EST.

91.Carl Dahlström, Linköping J20, D, 6’4, 212
92.Teemu Kivihalme, Burnsville HS MN, D, 6’1, 170
93. Juuse Saros, HPK U20, G, 5’10, 181
94. Jackson Houck, Vancouver, RW, 6’0, 184
95. Niklas Hansson, Rögle J20, D, 6’0, 172
96. Peter Trainor, Rimouski, LW, 5’11, 185
97. Brebdan Harms, Fargo, RW, 5’11, 185
98. Tyler Hill, Chicago, LW, 6’6, 225
99. Will Butcher, USA NDTP, 5’10, 200
100. Mason Geertsen, Vancouver, D, 6’4, 203
101. Peter Cehlárik, Luleå, D, 6’2, 192
102. Emile Djuse, Södertälje, D, 6’0, 185
103. Anthony Florentino, South Kent HS CT, D, 6’3, 217
104. Gage Ausmus, USA NDTP, D, 6’1, 211
105. Victor Arvidsson, Skelleftea, LW, 5’9, 176
106. Greg Chase, Calgary, C, 6’0, 195
107. Dylan Labbé, Shawinigan, D, 6’2, 189
108. Jérémy Grégoire, Baie-Comeau, C, 6’0, 188
109. Jesse Lees, Kelowna, D, 6’0, 180
110. Wilhelm Westlund, Färjestad, D, 6’0, 179
111. Sean Malone, USA NDTP, C, 5’11, 185
112. Cole Cassels, Oshawa, C, 6’0, 178
113. Eamon McAdam, Waterloo, G, 6’2, 185
114. Miro Aaltonen, Blues, 5’10’ 169
115. Patrik Bartosak, Red Deer, G, 6’1, 188
116. Taylor Cammarata, Waterloo, C/LW, 5’7, 156
117. JC Lipon, Kamloops, RW, 6’0, 181
118. Avery Peterson, Grand Rapids HS MN, C, 6’2, 194
119. Markus Søberg, Lulea J20, RW, 5’11, 187
120. Brendan Burke, Portland, G, 6’3, 176

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Round 2 is now up at TheHockeyWriters.com.

Round 2 contains videos of many of the stars from the recently completed U18's in Sochi, Russia.


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Thanks, been reading them regularly. Your profiles are missed though!
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Here is the story of the profiles.

In 2010-2011, I was posting profiles of the top 120 draft eligibles here on hfboards. Christopher Ralph of TheHockeyWriters.com suggested that I post them on his own website, hockeyspy.blogspot.com. I was then able to post profiles on 119 of the top 120 prospects before the draft (yes, Ryan Nugent Hopkins was the one I missed). I was only able to post so many because I wasn’t working at the time. The profiles seemed to be well received because they were updated almost daily, provided a detailed report on almost all significant prospects, had a satisfactory mechanism to look up a prospect and hopefully were decently written.

In 2011-2012, I didn’t do any postings due to professional and family reasons.

In 2012-2013, I started out doing profiles at TheHockeyWriters.com/Combine/. However, due to the NHL strike and the fact that the site was set up as “one and done”, I didn’t feel the response was worth the effort as it took me 12-14 hours to do a decent profile. Before I stopped doing profiles, the following were posted at the Combine site:
1. Nathan MacKinnon, Halifax
2. Jonathan Drouin, Halifax
3. William Carrier, Cape Breton
4. Adam Erne, Quebec
5. Anthony Duclair, Quebec
6. Nick Sorensen, Quebec
7. Frederik Gauthier, Rimouski
8. Jan Kostalek, Rimouski
9. Scott Oke, Rimouski

After that, I started doing monthly top 60 lists (which turned into top 120 lists) at TheHockeyWriters.com. Round One for May was sent for editing a few minutes ago; rounds two to four are now up as per previous posts above. As in 2010-2011, I am trying to highlight even the lesser known prospects so that readers who want can get a feel for almost all the significant prospects.

While I would like to continue to do profiles, the time to do them properly is just not there at this time.
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Thanks for the excellent work, but an obvious curiosity...

Nichushkin at #17?


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Thanks, been reading them regularly. Your profiles are missed though!
If you want to reflect back to December and see how the rankings have evolved and see some of E-Mac's outstanding, unique (and sometimes downright hilarious) insight check it out:

NHL 2013 Draft War Room Top 90 December Rankings (Part 1: Top 10)
- Links to the whole series contained within this post.

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Thanks for the excellent work, but an obvious curiosity...

Nichushkin at #17?
Lack of compete at the U18's plus Russian factor - don't want him on my club unless it is 2nd or 3rd choice.

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Lack of compete at the U18's plus Russian factor - don't want him on my club unless it is 2nd or 3rd choice.
Yes, I recognize that he's coming with questions...but #17 seems a significant penalty. Do you really believe 16 NHL GMs will pass, or is this meant exclusively as your statement about the player?

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Yes, I recognize that he's coming with questions...but #17 seems a significant penalty. Do you really believe 16 NHL GMs will pass, or is this meant exclusively as your statement about the player?
I think that he will drop significantly; how far is anybody's guess - I have him next to a player who has major talent but compete level problems - Anthony Mantha.

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I think that he will drop significantly; how far is anybody's guess - I have him next to a player who has major talent but compete level problems - Anthony Mantha.
Well, time will tell. Obviously, there's no crystal ball, but compared to other rankings/mock drafts you have him falling the farthest. By a fair margin. Personally, I think he'll go much higher -- no worse than 10-12, but quite likely in the single digits. Again, time will tell.

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I don't see the Devils passing Nichushkin up at 9. They love their Russians. The Flyers better not take another C at 11. The only forward I want at 11 is Nichushkin if he falls. Other than that I either want Nurse, Pulock, Zadorov or Risto at 11.

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Well, time will tell. Obviously, there's no crystal ball, but compared to other rankings/mock drafts you have him falling the farthest. By a fair margin. Personally, I think he'll go much higher -- no worse than 10-12, but quite likely in the single digits. Again, time will tell.

Thanks again for sharing your hard work.
I've seen him as a second rounder in one rankings.

Personally I'd have him in the 20-30 crowd. Its hard to justify taking a player with a questionable compete level and who may not want to come to the NHL for several more years. Russians already have a sever discount to their talent level in the draft because of this, and his showing on the international stage is not raising eyebrows.

To me he is less than Taresenko was, and Taresenko went 15th.

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Malkin and Ovechkin didn't come over immediately. Why are people so hung up about it these days?

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I've seen him as a second rounder in one rankings.
Well, maybe. But he's top ten in virtually every major ranking -- not fan posts or random threads, but published rankings. Which is what made this such a head scratcher. The #17 slot is a major outlier, comparatively speaking.

Personally, I think the Russian factor exists, but it's way overblown. To the point where draft busts (e.g. Filitov) get included. But an NHL GM definitely has to do his homework. I just don't see 16 NHL GMs passing on this kid, much less the 20+ you suggest. Again, no crystal ball. I could be wrong.

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Malkin and Ovechkin didn't come over immediately. Why are people so hung up about it these days?
Wasn't their delay to the NHL due to the lockout?

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Wasn't their delay to the NHL due to the lockout?
Probably though Malkin didn't come over until 2006-2007 but Ovie came over in 2005-2006.

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Malkin and Ovechkin didn't come over immediately. Why are people so hung up about it these days?
First off they were far different beasts. Ovy already had 3 years in the KHL when drafted, had his intentions well stated and came over at the first opportunity. And it was a relatively weak draft year.

When you look at what the above two players did in their draft years at international play they just appear to be much better players.

And rather than name those two you can go with Cherapnov and Taresenko, both considered top 5 talents that slid into the 15-20 range because of that factor.

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Kuznetsov still hasn't shown any interest in coming over.

He was and is a better prospect than nicushkin IMO.

Only the true elite of the elite come over and if doesn't come easy they go back (Filatov, Zherdev, Radulov).

Personally I like where you have him Eldon. To me the drive and hockey sense are still issues from my viewings. A raw physical beast though. If he reaches his potential he's probably the hardest guy in this draft to stop on a net drive.

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Probably though Malkin didn't come over until 2006-2007 but Ovie came over in 2005-2006.
And Malkin had a contract with Metallurg as well, one that included an out clause to come to the NHL. I don't know if he had that contract when he was drafted or not, but yea.

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I don't see the Devils passing Nichushkin up at 9. They love their Russians. The Flyers better not take another C at 11. The only forward I want at 11 is Nichushkin if he falls. Other than that I either want Nurse, Pulock, Zadorov or Risto at 11.
As a Leaf fan, I feel the exact opposite. We have a deep prospect pool for the blueline and on the wing, but are incredibly thin up then middle both in the farm system and at the NHL level.

Unfortunately, i think Domi, Horvat, and Wennberg will all be gone by the time we pick, and then maybe Lazar and Gauthier as well.

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The Sleeper Edition is up at 10:07 EST this morning at TheHockeyWriters.com.

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