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03-13-2011, 07:35 AM
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With all the talk about this team having a lack of scoring... Don't look now but this team has the 8th most Goals scored in the whole NHL!! This is also with Gaborik having an off year.

The lack of scoring is not an issue.


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With all the talk about this team having a lack of scoring... Don't look know but this team has the 8th most Goals scored in the whole NHL!! This is also with Gaborik having an off year.

The lack of scoring is not an issue.
We've had what, 5 or 6 games where we've scored 6, 7, 8 goals?

Scoring is most definitely an issue.

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Thing is...The stats come out that way when we play crappy for 5 games loosing 3-2 in all of them, then the next one we win 7-0...And then it's back to loosing a few games 3-2 again :/

By crappy I do not refer to the heart and effort, just the converting on scoring chances...

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We've had what, 5 or 6 games where we've scored 6, 7, 8 goals?

Scoring is most definitely an issue.
good point, but I am sure most of the other NHL teams also had 5 or 6 games with a lot of goals scored in the game. I would not doubt it evens out throughout the season.

This Ranger team has the 8th most Goals scored in the NHL without their superstar having a superstar season. This is a great sign for this team and shows that scoring is not the issue that is constantly being mentioned here on this forum.

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Our scoring stats look good because we are great at slaughtering teams when the game is over. But when the game is on the line, we can barely hit an open net, regardless of which player taking the shot.

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With all the talk about this team having a lack of scoring... Don't look know but this team has the 8th most Goals scored in the whole NHL!! This is also with Gaborik having an off year.

The lack of scoring is not an issue.
Maybe I am reading this wrong but that stat is completely false.

We are 14th in goals scored and 17th in Goals per games. And we are in the lower 3rd of the league in scoring goals this calendar year.

Goals is an issue, has been for years.

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Maybe I am reading this wrong but that stat is completely false.

We are 14th in goals scored and 17th in Goals per games. And we are in the lower 3rd of the league in scoring goals this calendar year.

Goals is an issue, has been for years.
I just doubled checked it on NHL.com and the Rangers have the 8th most goals scored in the NHL. Goal scoring is not an issue on this team and this is with Gaborik having an off year.

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03-13-2011, 09:02 AM
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Consistent scoring is an issue.

Think about how many games we've scored 6-7 goals only to follow it up with 2 weeks of scoring less than 3 per game.

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We're actually 19th in GAA

http://espn.go.com/nhl/statistics/te...1/seasontype/2

We are in 8th if you count shoot out goals.

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I just doubled checked it on NHL.com and the Rangers have the 8th most goals scored in the NHL. Goal scoring is not an issue on this team and this is with Gaborik having an off year.
What are you seeing and what am I seeing? the Rangers are 19th in Goalsper game..how can you be 19th in goals per game and 8th in total goals?

I think you are looking at Goals against...an area of the game that we are good at. Or looking at our Eastern Conference rankings in that area.

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Actually everybody's right in this thread:

The Rangers are 9th in the league in Goals For with 198.

But their GPG is 19th because there are many teams 1 goal or 2 goals behind that have 1 or 2 games less played that gives them a few hundredths higher GPG average than the Rangers.

I think we can agree that the scoring issue is consistently reaching that 3 goal mark in an individual game rather than their total goals scored in the year.

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Of course it's a problem. Has been for years. Obviously, the being 19th in GPG is more telling than total goals. A bunch of 7-0 blowout games has skewed some stats.

Someone posted in the gdt that we're 1 of 5 teams without a 50 point scorer so far. That's another problem with the team, there's no go-to guy in close games.

Bottom line, this team needs a 1st line in the worst way.

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Actually everybody's right in this thread:

The Rangers are 9th in the league in Goals For with 198.

But their GPG is 19th because there are many teams 1 goal or 2 goals behind that have 1 or 2 games less played that gives them a few hundredths higher GPG average than the Rangers.

I think we can agree that the scoring issue is consistently reaching that 3 goal mark in an individual game rather than their total goals scored in the year.
Exactly. We had a bunch of games where we piled on goals at the end with the lead already. Too troubling are the 2-1 and 3-1 losses.

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03-13-2011, 11:31 AM
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Consistent scoring is an issue.

Think about how many games we've scored 6-7 goals only to follow it up with 2 weeks of scoring less than 3 per game.

AMEN.

Also, Gabby is having a horrible year, true... but Boyle is having a career yr. I'd rather have it the other way around but it is what it is.

If we could score 3 a night we'd be awesome.

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Actually everybody's right in this thread:

The Rangers are 9th in the league in Goals For with 198.

But their GPG is 19th because there are many teams 1 goal or 2 goals behind that have 1 or 2 games less played that gives them a few hundredths higher GPG average than the Rangers.

I think we can agree that the scoring issue is consistently reaching that 3 goal mark in an individual game rather than their total goals scored in the year.
8 of those 198 goals are from shootouts. Like last night. We won 3-2, but we really only scored 2 goals.

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Adding even .5 gpg would be great.

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Adding even .5 gpg would be great.
Yup.

The diff between fighting for a play-off spot and trying to win the east.

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Actually everybody's right in this thread:

The Rangers are 9th in the league in Goals For with 198.

But their GPG is 19th because there are many teams 1 goal or 2 goals behind that have 1 or 2 games less played that gives them a few hundredths higher GPG average than the Rangers.

I think we can agree that the scoring issue is consistently reaching that 3 goal mark in an individual game rather than their total goals scored in the year.
good point, but it is being mentioned on this board that scoring is a real weakness of this team. It is obviously not a weakness at all. If so, then almost every NHL team would have a similar weakness in scoring. No?

Bottom line is that this team is better than a most NHL teams in scoring. This could be considered a possible strength. Then you add in the Defense and Hank? This is a good team NOW and into the future.

I do agree, that perhaps the timing of the goals need to be more clutch but I would think most teams near the bottom of the playoff hunt would say the same thing.

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good point, but it is being mentioned on this board that scoring is a real weakness of this team. It is obviously not a weakness at all. If so, then almost every NHL team would have a similar weakness in scoring. No?

Bottom line is that this team is better than a most NHL teams in scoring. This could be considered a possible strength. Then you add in the Defense and Hank? This is a good team NOW and into the future.

I do agree, that perhaps the timing of the goals need to be more clutch but I would think most teams near the bottom of the playoff hunt would say the same thing.

19th in GPG is better than most nhl teams?

Maybe most bottom feeding NHL teams.

And why do you keep emphasizing only people "on this board" think scoring is an issue. Torts has said it many times and it's very obvious to anyone that watches the Rangers...

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I think the bigger problem we have is creating just about anything in some games. Like when some teams really dig in against us, we struggle to even get up ice.

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14th in the league in totals goals scored. If you're counting the "goal" awarded in the shootout wins than, I'm sorry, but you're just a dope.

19th in the league in goals per game.

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We just had a lengthy thread titled, "Is it all on the offense?" or something similar. This is the exact same discussion, only using misinterpreted stats.

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