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Well, it's highly highly unlikely that Jake is dealt for pieces (which is what I'm SURE you're trying to get him for), and as stated over and over by CBJ fans, he won't be the best player in the deal, if he's even dealt at all. So the only players on the Leafs that are currently either as good or better than him are Kulemin, Schenn, and Kessel, (you could make the case for Grabo, I suppose, but Jake has more potential that I'd rather hold on to) and I doubt the Leafs would give any up for Voracek, so this is all moot.
Columbus would be looking to package Voracek with someone/something in order to acquire a defenseman or center that is better than Voracek (a 55 point player at 22 years of age).
would not make sense to trrade for him. Leafs have glaring needs and only a few expendable assets. Trading for voracek would recquire expending all of our expendable assets and he is not a glaring need (top line center, top 6 pf lw, good pmd).
He is an upgrade on Macarthur but a downgrade from kessel. Since macarthur has been doing fine and already has great chemistry with his line, whats the pont of trading for voracek?
EDIT: 2nd question: RFA this season, what's the next contract look like?
he's no better than grabovski and we are looking for a center thats better than grabo to play the first line with kessel. the leafs will trade for a centerman this summer but i hope it's not voracek.
Good young player and all but Leafs don't need him. Also, I think people are assuming that his point production will keep rising, doubt his 3 year average goes above 65, probably less, hit a bit of a wall imo and I'd rather go for a different young winger. Btw, Jackets need him if they wanna stay competitive in the near future.
And his contract....$2.5 to $3 M I'd say if it's a short term one.
The only reasonable way around it is a package revolving around Kulemin and Voracek
Even that makes little sense to either team. At best its a completely lateral move for both sides. Neither fit a need on the other team but would merely replace each other.
would not make sense to trrade for him. Leafs have glaring needs and only a few expendable assets. Trading for voracek would recquire expending all of our expendable assets and he is not a glaring need (top line center, top 6 pf lw, good pmd).
He is an upgrade on Macarthur but a downgrade from kessel. Since macarthur has been doing fine and already has great chemistry with his line, whats the pont of trading for voracek?
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Originally Posted by 93gilmour93
no way i would trade kulemin for voracek
I think these 2 comments sum up this thread. The Leafs are going to be looking for a top line center and pmd this summer and with Kulemin's production this year, I don't think there's a chance he gets moved. Especially when Burke is in a position where he has Kulemin and Grabo locked up for another year each and is in a position to bring Macarthur back to form that line.
he's no better than grabovski and we are looking for a center thats better than grabo to play the first line with kessel. the leafs will trade for a centerman this summer but i hope it's not voracek.
Voracek is a young core player for Columbus and in good standing with the organization, just as valuable to the Jackets as a guy like Kulemin or Schenn is to the Leafs. That's all that really needs to be said here.
If you're talking about pure fantasy value I'd think Voracek falls somewhere in the middle of Schenn and Kulemin.
The Leafs are going to be looking for a top line center and pmd this summer and with Kulemin's production this year, I don't think there's a chance he gets moved.
Replace "Leafs" with "Jackets" and "Kulemin" with "Voracek."
Same situation, really. Jackets fans are frustrated with Jake's ability to finish sometimes, but he's been productive.
Voracek is a young core player for Columbus and in good standing with the organization, just as valuable to the Jackets as a guy like Kulemin or Schenn is to the Leafs. That's all that really needs to be said here.
If you're talking about pure fantasy value I'd think Voracek falls somewhere in the middle of Schenn and Kulemin.
Good assessment.
He's worth more than Kulemin and less than Schenn.
