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03-12-2011, 10:59 PM
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03-12-2011, 11:10 PM
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Gomez
Not happening
His buyout cap hit over the next 6 years would be : 1.8, 3.8, 4.8, 2, 2, 2

http://www.capgeek.com/buyout_calcul...06&buyout_d=15

If the Habs were to make a decison on Gomez's future, I would wait until after the 2011-2012. He will have two years left on his contract and his salary will fall to 5.5 and 4.5 millions.

He might be easier to trade him to a team that wants to reach the cap floor ("low" salary and high cap hit could save some money to those kind of teams)

If the Habs can't trade him, buying out his salary would have a much smaller impact on the salary cap (about 1.7 millions for 4 years).

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03-12-2011, 11:14 PM
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Not happening
His buyout cap hit over the next 6 years would be : 1.8, 3.8, 4.8, 2, 2, 2

http://www.capgeek.com/buyout_calcul...06&buyout_d=15

If the Habs were to make a decison on Gomez's future, I would wait until after the 2011-2012. He will have two years left on his contract and his salary will fall to 5.5 and 4.5 millions.

He might be easier to trade him to a team that wants to reach the cap floor ("low" salary and high cap hit could save some money to those kind of teams)

If the Habs can't trade him, buying out his salary would have a much smaller impact on the salary cap (about 1.7 millions for 4 years).

True...I could easily see them put him on waivers and letting him rot in Hamilton when no one claims him. At some point they will not have a choice.

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03-12-2011, 11:21 PM
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Please Tambo, buyout Kurtis Foster.

Would be the best $600k spent during the next two seasons.

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03-12-2011, 11:29 PM
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True...I could easily see them put him on waivers and letting him rot in Hamilton when no one claims him. At some point they will not have a choice.
Habs have never buried any players in the minor since the new CBA. I don't think it will happen with Gomez either. Anyway, I believe that burying Gomez in the minors would probably create some tension in the dressing room since Gomez has his share of friends on the team.

Over the past few years, the organization got stuck with some under achievers like Theodore, Samsonov and Laraque and they always found a "polite" way to get rid of them. They never "humiliated" a player be sending him to the AHL.

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03-12-2011, 11:32 PM
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Habs have never buried any players in the minor since the new CBA. I don't think it will happen with Gomez either. It would probably create some tension in the dressing room since Gomez has his share of friends of the team.

Over the past few years, the organization got stuck with some under achievers like Theodore, Samsonov and Laraque and they always found a "polite" way to get rid of them. They never "humiliated" a player be sending him to the AHL.
I know but at some point they will not have a choice, unless someone is willing to trade for him, he has to go to hamilton.

Subban, Price, Markov, Wiz, Gorges, Weber, Gill, AK, Pouliot, Eller, etc.....all these guys will need a contract this summer or the next. The money will have to come from somewhere.


Let Hamrlik walk, waive Gomez, and you have around 13 million to spread around for those guys above.....

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03-13-2011, 01:03 AM
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possibly trent hunter, injuries have really gotten the better of him.
I'm hoping so, he just does not fit our current lineup. Too slow, too fragile and is not able to contribute as a bottom 6 forward. He's just way too slow.

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03-13-2011, 09:42 AM
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I know but at some point they will not have a choice, unless someone is willing to trade for him, he has to go to hamilton.

Subban, Price, Markov, Wiz, Gorges, Weber, Gill, AK, Pouliot, Eller, etc.....all these guys will need a contract this summer or the next. The money will have to come from somewhere.


Let Hamrlik walk, waive Gomez, and you have around 13 million to spread around for those guys above.....
Not all of those guys you listed are going to get contract offers. Gomez may have a huge cap hit but he's a veteran player who has quite a lot of playoff experience.

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03-13-2011, 10:30 AM
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i can imagine trent hunter getting bought out but i would kinda like to see him score his 100th goal as an islander and he is currently at 99

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03-13-2011, 11:33 AM
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Chris Drury will likely be bought out if he doesn't retire because of injuries and being the odd man out.
Buying Drury out would be quite odd move, although his NMC means that Rangers might have no other choice if he truly is no capable of playing anymore (and not hurt enough to retire / stay on LTIR).

Drury's buyout would had cap hit of 3.7 million next season and 1.666 the following season, so that would mean a 3.3 million in saved cap space for next season. Can Ranger's sign an improvement over Drury costing less than 3.3 million?

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03-13-2011, 11:47 AM
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i'm speculating kuba, my board doesnt entirely agree, but the team seems set on putting rundblad and cowen in the NHL next year, and just re-signed phillips.

Gonchar, Phillips, Karlsson, Rundblad, Cowen, Lee, Carkner

i dont see space for kuba, so if he cant be traded, i definitely see a buyout coming.
Sens will need to hit the cap floor next season and need veteran bodies. It sounds like there was even a market to trade Kuba near the deadline but a team went in another direction. I think he gets traded before he gets bought out. Otherwise, he'll be an Ottawa Senator next season.

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03-14-2011, 07:57 AM
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Do you think the Flames will buyout Ales Kotalik? I remember reading in an article after his most recent demotion to Abbotsford that his goal is to make the team next year, so it doesn't sound like he's going to up and leave for Europe. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to have $3 million playing in the minors. Buyout would be $1 million for the next two years. What do you think?

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03-14-2011, 09:44 AM
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Please Tambo, buyout Kurtis Foster.

Would be the best $600k spent during the next two seasons.
I say put Foster in the number 7 d-man spot. The only Oilers I want to see bought out are Souray and Khabiboulin, even though I know the latter won't happen.

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03-14-2011, 09:45 AM
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Buying Drury out would be quite odd move, although his NMC means that Rangers might have no other choice if he truly is no capable of playing anymore (and not hurt enough to retire / stay on LTIR).

Drury's buyout would had cap hit of 3.7 million next season and 1.666 the following season, so that would mean a 3.3 million in saved cap space for next season. Can Ranger's sign an improvement over Drury costing less than 3.3 million?
Consider that 3.3 million towards Brad Richards.

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03-14-2011, 09:50 AM
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Not happening
His buyout cap hit over the next 6 years would be : 1.8, 3.8, 4.8, 2, 2, 2

http://www.capgeek.com/buyout_calcul...06&buyout_d=15

If the Habs were to make a decison on Gomez's future, I would wait until after the 2011-2012. He will have two years left on his contract and his salary will fall to 5.5 and 4.5 millions.

He might be easier to trade him to a team that wants to reach the cap floor ("low" salary and high cap hit could save some money to those kind of teams)

If the Habs can't trade him, buying out his salary would have a much smaller impact on the salary cap (about 1.7 millions for 4 years).
Couldn't they just send Gomez to minors? Like Oilers did with Souray?

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03-14-2011, 10:21 AM
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Olesz was the first player that came to mind, Drury is a possibility as well I'm sure.

Unlikely the Ducks will buyout anyone, maybe Brookbank but that wouldn't really be worth it.
Rangers and Panthers trade Drury for Olesz and buyout each others player, it makes more sense for each team. Higher cap hit and lower salary for Florida and lower cap hit for NYR. Win/Win.

Florida can save millions by hovering at the cap floor next year.

NYR can end up with a negative cap hit for years 2 and 3.

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03-14-2011, 06:26 PM
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Rangers and Panthers trade Drury for Olesz and buyout each others player, it makes more sense for each team. Higher cap hit and lower salary for Florida and lower cap hit for NYR. Win/Win.

Florida can save millions by hovering at the cap floor next year.

NYR can end up with a negative cap hit for years 2 and 3.
I think NYR would have to add something, as it helps them more than FLA, but i like this idea

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i could see oduya getting put on the glass rod of failures if he can't be traded for something worth the time.

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Zherdev(Forgot how to spell his name)-Can go back to Europe lazy sack.
Shelley-Replace him with Big Mac for league min.
Commodore-Will get signed by another team for cheap.

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Gomez is valuable in the playoffs, he is overpaid but is still has value to his team.

Also not a buyout but there is a rumour that Wade Redden will walk away from the his contract during the summer. Makes sense it is his only chance to play in the nhl again.

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Please Tambo, buyout Kurtis Foster.

Would be the best $600k spent during the next two seasons.
And buy Souray out while he's at it?

Which Oiler will it be after next season?

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Also not a buyout but there is a rumour that Wade Redden will walk away from the his contract during the summer.
How does a person actually do that? Is there a waiver process or something?

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If Drury is bought out, I could see the new owner making a play for him to be the third line center in Buffalo.

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Spacek if anyone from Montréal.

He's old, he doesn't do what he's suppose to do and that's get a somewhat hard shot through. He's injured, but been bumped to 5th dman. That's with Markov and Gorges out.

Not even kidding, he's getting paid 3.8 mill to play number 5 minutes.

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The Flames are more likely to loan Kotalik to a Euro team where that team covers a portion of the contract than to buy him out. With Langkow likely coming back next year, the Flames really won't have the $ to have Kotalik or his buyout on the books.

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