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03-13-2011, 01:30 AM
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OT: Learning Disabilities

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So Basically I'm in Seconaire 3 (9th Grade) And I have some intense problems at school. At Gradeschool (1-6) i had Averages of 80+'s. But once i entered this Private School for High School, I've since then alwase had a average of 60. Nothing More (60 is Passing Grade). This year dropped drasticly, Im at around 44% Average, and If i dont get over 50 for the year, I'm expelled. Considering this term is basically done because i got 16% and 42% In both Mid Terms, I've been asking myself the same question; Do i have a Learning Disability?

I listen in every class, do 80% of my homework, and take every single class notes. I have 5 Classes of Maths out of a 6 Day Schedule, 1 Two Hour Math Classes on the weekend, And Two Tutors i see Once a week for one hour. And I don't see any drastic improvements.

So I went to read this- http://kidshealth.org/teen/diseases_...bilities.html#

I Don't know if its because i rarely read out loud, But when i try to read, I get mixed up in words and often have to stop and re-position myself. Could maybe be stress? I Don't know

I also belive that i could relate to this
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Some people with verbal learning disabilities may be able to read or write just fine but struggle with other aspects of language. For example, they may be able to sound out a sentence or paragraph perfectly, making them good readers, but they can't relate to the words in ways that will allow them to make sense of what they're reading (such as forming a picture of a thing or situation).
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The behavioral condition attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) is often associated with learning disabilities because people with ADHD also might have a hard time focusing enough to learn and study. Students with ADHD are often easily distracted and have trouble concentrating. They may also be excessively active or have trouble controlling their impulses.
^^ Whenever theres a Habs game on, I stop whatever I'm doing to go watch it, I easily get influenced to play online games on the computer insetad of studying etc anything that interests me easily get my attention.

I also realise that i sometimes right d's instead of b's and vice versa. Maybe just cause im not paying attention? Or it could be a syptom according to http://www.wikihow.com/Know-if-You-H...ing-Disability. Also, This happens too
Difficulty comprehending what you have just read even though you could read every word of the passage.

And i realised i had some points in Common. My concern is, What do you guys know about learning disability? Do you know anyone in your entourage that has some and can tell me how to diagnose it? I want to ask my Mom to consult a specialist, But I'm not sure yet. Don't want her to think I'm wasting her time trying to find myself ane excuse for my past failures.

Thanks in advance.


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most people will blurt out adhd real quick, but it's much harder to tell than that. the trouble reading and writing b's instead of d's sounds like dyslexia. Oh, and I'm leaving it up to the other mods as to what to do with this thread. I'm not in the best condition to be making decisions

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You should seek the opinion of a professional if you are indeed concerned about this.

I have a personal experience of not being able to focus(although I'm an extremely calm person and can pay attention and keep focus everywhere except school). I've been kicked out of my HS, and got kicked out of my cegep. If you wanna know the details, I can tell you, but I doubt our situations are related. I never had an issue with school, I just had an issue keeping focus with my studies and still do.

I see no reason not to allow you a chance to get a fair answer to your question. Although, to be fair, I think you may be better off getting an answer on a more general board.

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My personal experience was that i was kicked out of high school, had to finish in adult education, then i went to john abbott and i almost kicked out of college. I thought i had some learning problems until i found a program that interested me (computer science). I then went to university and graduated in software engineering.

So sometimes it could be a question of motivation and the hardest thing with school is sticking to it. my 2 cents.

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most people will blurt out adhd real quick, but it's much harder to tell than that. the trouble reading and writing b's instead of d's sounds like dyslexia. Oh, and I'm leaving it up to the other mods as to what to do with this thread. I'm not in the best condition to be making decisions
A lil too much fun tonight I see overlords lol

Yo the OP all I can say is that don't stop studying till u not only know the material but understand the concept. Learning it just isn't enough you need to understand the point of what your learning and the best way to do so is to imagine it in everyday life. I'm in Overlords state right not lol so take my advice for what its worth.

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Best opinion is to seek some help at a hospital, run some tests (nothing with needles or machines) and find out what it could be there.

My son, who just turned 5, is still having trouble grasping onto both english and french, and he's starting school in August. Some thought it was autism, others thought it was ADHD, but it turns out that it was just a delay in speech. All it took was a simple meeting at the hospital for 3 hours, and we immediately found out what it was. So I'd suggest getting an appointment to really be sure.

It could be ADD, ADHD or just simply a delay in learning things.

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I listen in every class, do 80% of my homework, and take every single class notes. I have 5 Classes of Maths out of a 6 Day Schedule, 1 Two Hour Math Classes on the weekend, And Two Tutors i see Once a week for one hour. And I don't see any drastic improvements.
Start by doing 100% of your homework

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I was going to say that too. You sound like a typical ADHD person to me; Ritalin is often prescribed in this case and works real well. But doing 100% of everything you are doing when you do it is essential.

And i sure hope you dont drive a car using just 80% of your attention...

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I was going to say that too. You sound like a typical ADHD person to me; Ritalin is often prescribed in this case and works real well. But doing 100% of everything you are doing when you do it is essential.

And i sure hope you dont drive a car using just 80% of your attention...
This isn't a good comparison because most drivers don't use more than 10% of their attention while driving

Anyway, to get back on topic, I'm going to have to agree with what other people said. I won't give a long story about myself, but in high school i never really cared about what we were doing and it showed in my grades, then in Cegep it just clicked one day and I breezed through the rest of Cegep.

I'm not saying that you should just wait and things will work themselves out, because it kind of seems like that's my message This worked for me because I got interested. High School floods you with information and though they make it seem like it's all important, they know it isn't. They want to expose you to as much stuff as possible so that you can find a few things that you're really into and then make those things your priorities. You're in a private school so maybe it's a bit different, because they won't hold your hand and guide you through your classes, but they're still trying to help you realize what's important to you and what isn't.

And to give a cliché answer, you really need to go have a talk with an academic advisor / counselor at your school. You'll walk out of there with your eyes opened and you'll a much better idea about what's going on.

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First, do everything you can to succeed like doing all of your homework, reviewing your notes after class, etc. Also eliminates distractions or cut them to a minimum. Maybe it's just a motivation problem or ADD but I doubt it's attention deficit if you listen in class and take notes. In my experience it's way too easy to lose focus in class when it's boring.

I've never had any learning problems (ok, speech delay when I was 3 doesn't count lol), only motivation issues. Never failed a course in my entire life. Obviously if you think you might have a learning disability go seek help ASAP if possible. I know specialists are not easily available as the demand keeps growing.

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What do your teachers think? If you told them the same things that you described here, they can recommend testing for a disability. Having said that, it is easier said than done. Both private and public testing could take forever. In the meantime, your parents need to get on the ball and start making things happen. You definitely need more structure and help minimizing distractions. You wrote "anything that interests me easily get my attention".....well school work can be anything but interesting, so you need to plow through. Homework and studying done before the games start. Show your parents it's done and they can allow you to watch the game. Don't do your homework in front of the CPU, but listen to mellow music. Without having taught you, all I can give is generic advice.

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I wish I took high school more seriously. I would have loved to go into Sciences de la santé in CEGEP but I don't have the prerequisites.

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I wish I took high school more seriously. I would have loved to go into Sciences de la santé in CEGEP but I don't have the prerequisites.
some CEGEPs offer Math 436 and 536 and high school science so you can study science afterward

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Practice makes perfect.

Also, you have to realize that our minds don't all grow the same way.You might hit your stride at 16, at 18, at 20 or even at 25. Some do at 30. Mental development has more to do with the mix between environment and your genes than it has to do with learning what they want you to learn. That's why people react differently to modern schools.

I didn't start reading much until I was 17, but then something happened, a door opened in my mind and I haven't stopped reading and learning by myself since then.

If your problem is concentration, then I would suggest to start doing a lot of sports that ask for action/reaction type of concentration. It did the trick for me. My aptitudes for concentration went up after I played on the HS B-Ball team when I was 14-16.

The problem with modern schools is that they don't look outside the box. The system is based on a one-for-all training program, which limits the potential of students. They don't promote exercices that grow concentration and expect students to reach the same recquired level without much help.

You also need the will to change and jump over those hurdles.

Most people think that intelligence is based mostly on our genes. It is true in the sense of basic capacity and potential. Meaning that someone who has a higher capacity to understand and learn will rise to his potential much easier, but the environment we grow in can change that a lot.

Personally, I find sports, puzzles like Sudokus and video games like Tetris to be very good at building concentration, as long as you understand that you need to always look at improving your game. They won't make you learn anything, but are great at what they do, promote concentration.

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some CEGEPs offer Math 436 and 536 and high school science so you can study science afterward
:O Which ones?

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It's not a disability in their case. There's nothing you can do for them.

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:O Which ones?
I know Maisonneuve has math and and french "mise à niveau". Not sure if they have 436 but they have 536. Unless they changes things since.

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I'm quite sure you'll have better results asking those questions to real professionals rather than on a hockey board. Just saying

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So Basically I'm in Seconaire 3 (9th Grade) And I have some intense problems at school. At Gradeschool (1-6) i had Averages of 80+'s. But once i entered this Private School for High School, I've since then alwase had a average of 60. Nothing More (60 is Passing Grade). This year dropped drasticly, Im at around 44% Average, and If i dont get over 50 for the year, I'm expelled. Considering this term is basically done because i got 16% and 42% In both Mid Terms, I've been asking myself the same question; Do i have a Learning Disability?

I listen in every class, do 80% of my homework, and take every single class notes. I have 5 Classes of Maths out of a 6 Day Schedule, 1 Two Hour Math Classes on the weekend, And Two Tutors i see Once a week for one hour. And I don't see any drastic improvements.

So I went to read this- http://kidshealth.org/teen/diseases_...bilities.html#

I Don't know if its because i rarely read out loud, But when i try to read, I get mixed up in words and often have to stop and re-position myself. Could maybe be stress? I Don't know

I also belive that i could relate to this


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^^ Whenever theres a Habs game on, I stop whatever I'm doing to go watch it, I easily get influenced to play online games on the computer insetad of studying etc anything that interests me easily get my attention.

I also realise that i sometimes right d's instead of b's and vice versa. Maybe just cause im not paying attention? Or it could be a syptom according to http://www.wikihow.com/Know-if-You-H...ing-Disability. Also, This happens too
Difficulty comprehending what you have just read even though you could read every word of the passage.

And i realised i had some points in Common. My concern is, What do you guys know about learning disability? Do you know anyone in your entourage that has some and can tell me how to diagnose it? I want to ask my Mom to consult a specialist, But I'm not sure yet. Don't want her to think I'm wasting her time trying to find myself ane excuse for my past failures.

Thanks in advance.
If you spend half the effort on your homework as you do for a post on hfboards you should be more then fine. Just look at your post. Well written, you did research and posted quotes. If no one helped you write this then you don't sound like you have a problem.
My advise: Put the computer away. Turn off the tv at night. Eat a good breakfast before going to school. And most importantly work out your body as much as your mind. Physical activity for somoene your age is very important. Play a sport with friends or go for a jog. You'll see the difference soon.
As for exams, the best thing I use to do was practice exams. Instead of over reading and studying a subject, I would try to understand it first, and if I could ever get a copy of the practice tests I would do them over and over till right before the actual test. You'll breeze by the actual test if you do that.
Have a study friend too. Two minds are better then one.

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I know Maisonneuve has math and and french "mise à niveau". Not sure if they have 436 but they have 536. Unless they changes things since.
Thanks!

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I'd suggest trying a memory assistance program. I used Kevin Trudeau's (don't really like anything else he made) Mega Memory and adapted a few things of my own and it really helped with memorization. You can use recall lists and silly sentences to help you out, they sound real dumb but trust me when your doing an exam and you finish 45 minutes ahead of everyone you will thank me.

Say you like hockey and could name off a player for every jersey number 1-99 ie #1 (any goalie), #99 (Gretzky), #33 (Roy). You can use that as a recall list for facts that you need to memorize by putting the number, name or picture of a player in your head to assist recall.

Try something like this before you go to a doctor who may just put you on meds when you really don't need them.


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if you seriously think you might have a learning disability then start by getting tested. no one is going to expel a student who is under assessment or has initiated the process - at least not immediately.

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Assess the courses you're taking...maybe they are at a level which is considered too high? (ex: high level of maths? trigonometry? calculus? not everyone is great at math).

Are these courses for you? How interested are you?
What are you really interested in? (literature? languages?art? history of art? physical education? liberal arts, law, etc,etc...).

There is also A.D.D. and O.C.D.
A lot of people have this at low levels or higher levels...some at very high levels.

Also...find something you like...do you feel forced in taking those
courses? are those your choices? if you are interested in it you may finish 100% of your homework and not just 80%.

I had a difficult time with certain courses I didn't like...and it made it hard for me to finish all the homework and/or pay attention in class 'cause the subject matter was so dry to me (ex: chemistry).

I hope this helps...




p.s.: also...private schools may have tougher courses than public schools...

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Sorry LaurentHabs, this is something that you should be discussing with professionals. Not a bunch of posters on a hockey board.

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