I'm all for offering Giroux the same deal next year, but I doubt he'll take it if he has any NHL dreams still. I think he'd do better in a club like the Blues or something -- a team that's not obsessed with youth, that's trying to make things happen, but that doesn't have great depth up front and is often-injured. If he'd been on that club this year, he'd have 30 NHL games by now.
I'd be sad to see Giroux leaves the organization. But something tells me he still thinks he can make it to the bigs and will look to the team that gives him the best shot of doing so.
Russia with his skating-speed? Not a chance a khl-team want too sign him, they have much better options in europe players who plays in their national-teams. the best ahl-ers maybee can have a impact in finland maybee but pays to bad.
Excited by this call-up. Obviously the guy isn't going to be our savior but I believe Hartikainen will prove hes an NHL player. Only thing I don't like is that I see some evidence of coaching and management trying to get this guy to tone down his physical game and round out his overall game. I think they should leave him be and lay some guys out with questionable hits. We need a guy like that. Hartikainen, fills an organizational need for sure. This is a good hockey player, and a keeper IMO. Between Jones and Hartikainen this club will have some much needed character at the forward position/bottom six.
Russia with his skating-speed? Not a chance a khl-team want too sign him, they have much better options in europe players who plays in their national-teams. the best ahl-ers maybee can have a impact in finland maybee but pays to bad.
This is a big myth. Lots of slow players have success on the big ice. Jiri Hudler got 5 million and he is small and slow. Hornqvist also had a great year on the big ice. Joe Thornton is a great international player even on the big ice.
I believe Giroux went to RDS after he got waived the first time and said that he turned down a chance at russia to sign here because the oilers promised him a spot. I doubt this isn't his last year in NA.
This is a big myth. Lots of slow players have success on the big ice. Jiri Hudler got 5 million and he is small and slow. Hornqvist also had a great year on the big ice. Joe Thornton is a great international player even on the big ice.
I believe Giroux went to RDS after he got waived the first time and said that he turned down a chance at russia to sign here because the oilers promised him a spot. I doubt this isn't his last year in NA.
Yeah I always thought slow skaters would really be exposed on the bigger ice over there. But apparently the game maybe is just at a slower pace and not as end to end as we often assume.
I mean a guy like Charles Linglet who was barely fast enough for the AHL. He goes over there to the KHL and plays well and puts up points. Brad Moran was a top scorer on his team in the SEL and he is not overly fast (a little faster than Giroux though).
I must admit I always thought the big and the style over in Sweden and Russia was best for fast and dynamic speedy players. Apparently not. I mean a guy like Igor Ulanov became way too slow for the NHL (especially with the post lockout rules that cut down on clutching, hooking and grabbing fast players). But he went to Russian and played a few more years. I guess us North Americans sometimes overestimate how well you need to skate and how much of a speedy skilled game you have to have to have success over there.
I do not think he said the Oilers promised him a spot. They promised him a chance and he felt they never meant to give him a real chance. Just wanted to clarify that point. He also said recently if I recall even after playing just one NHL game something to the effect that the Oilers had now kept true to what he was told when he signed. He ended up playing 4 more games after he said that. So I assume he is no longer upset.
Yeah I always thought slow skaters would really be exposed on the bigger ice over there. But apparently the game maybe is just at a slower pace and not as end to end as we often assume.
I mean a guy like Charles Linglet who was barely fast enough for the AHL. He goes over there to the KHL and plays well and puts up points. Brad Moran was a top scorer on his team in the SEL and he is not overly fast (a little faster than Giroux though).
I must admit I always thought the big and the style over in Sweden and Russia was best for fast and dynamic speedy players. Apparently not. I mean a guy like Igor Ulanov became way too slow for the NHL (especially with the post lockout rules that cut down on clutching, hooking and grabbing fast players). But he went to Russian and played a few more years. I guess us North Americans sometimes overestimate how well you need to skate and how much of a speedy skilled game you have to have to have success over there.
I do not think he said the Oilers promised him a spot. They promised him a chance and he felt they never meant to give him a real chance. Just wanted to clarify that point. He also said recently if I recall even after playing just one NHL game something to the effect that the Oilers had now kept true to what he was told when he signed. He ended up playing 4 more games after he said that. So I assume he is no longer upset.
Good to hear, but I wonder if he's upset when he looks around and sees that there are others that really might not be as talented as him on the Oiler roster while he is sent back to OKC. One thing that should make the blow of being sent back to OKC easier is that the money doesn't change for him.
Yeah I always thought slow skaters would really be exposed on the bigger ice over there. But apparently the game maybe is just at a slower pace and not as end to end as we often assume.
I mean a guy like Charles Linglet who was barely fast enough for the AHL. He goes over there to the KHL and plays well and puts up points. Brad Moran was a top scorer on his team in the SEL and he is not overly fast (a little faster than Giroux though).
I must admit I always thought the big and the style over in Sweden and Russia was best for fast and dynamic speedy players. Apparently not. I mean a guy like Igor Ulanov became way too slow for the NHL (especially with the post lockout rules that cut down on clutching, hooking and grabbing fast players). But he went to Russian and played a few more years. I guess us North Americans sometimes overestimate how well you need to skate and how much of a speedy skilled game you have to have to have success over there.
I do not think he said the Oilers promised him a spot. They promised him a chance and he felt they never meant to give him a real chance. Just wanted to clarify that point. He also said recently if I recall even after playing just one NHL game something to the effect that the Oilers had now kept true to what he was told when he signed. He ended up playing 4 more games after he said that. So I assume he is no longer upset.
You only have to look as far as the SEL. It's incredibly slow and boring, defensive hockey.
This is a big myth. Lots of slow players have success on the big ice. Jiri Hudler got 5 million and he is small and slow. Hornqvist also had a great year on the big ice. Joe Thornton is a great international player even on the big ice.
I believe Giroux went to RDS after he got waived the first time and said that he turned down a chance at russia to sign here because the oilers promised him a spot. I doubt this isn't his last year in NA.
parik hörnqvist bad skater , Have seen him in sel when he became rookie of the year, he isnt the fastest but he is + average and with his other qualitys he can turn in to regular +60 contributor. Giroux is 30 years old has only produced in ahl it says something. Give me some names of ahl players who make big bucks in khl? thats a myth! I saw the lockout season in sweden and many of the stars looked very poor out there on big surface.
Very excited about this. I liked Hartikainen a lot in the rookie tourney and in camp and he's impressed during his time in the AHL. Should be interesting.
parik hörnqvist bad skater , Have seen him in sel when he became rookie of the year, he isnt the fastest but he is + average and with his other qualitys he can turn in to regular +60 contributor. Giroux is 30 years old has only produced in ahl it says something. Give me some names of ahl players who make big bucks in khl? thats a myth! I saw the lockout season in sweden and many of the stars looked very poor out there on big surface.
Charles Linglet, first year in Russia. Theres also a couple other guys just on his team.
Russia with his skating-speed? Not a chance a khl-team want too sign him, they have much better options in europe players who plays in their national-teams. the best ahl-ers maybee can have a impact in finland maybee but pays to bad.
I'm not exactly sure what you are trying to say, but you can easily make 6x the money in Finland than in the AHL.
Will this be his first NHL game? I can't wait to see another rookie get his first NHL goal!
First game. It gives us Oiler fans something to look for in our next game at least. Instead of Giroux float around like a raft lost at sea while stabbing his temporary spear made with god given talents but constantly missing with a clear lack of interest in survival. Thus becoming food in the end. So he serves a purpose after all. Not as a survivor story but a victim of the cycle of life due to lack of heart...
What just happened.
I'm elated to see Harski in an Oil uni. He's a physical specimen that isn't afraid to use it. Not too mention the chippy edge he brings along with it. Let's hope his wheels can keep up with the pace.
The top AHL players sometimes make $500K on a 2 way deal, much more than your average AHL player.
Ringgg, Ringgg.
"Hey is Bryan around"
BBO -"This is him"
"Oh hi Bry this is Sheldon calling. I'm having a mansion party at my Vegas pad with Wade and Mikey. Booze and babes are on us. Can you make it? Before you answer that I'd just like to let you know, we are the rule not the exception".....
"Oh hi Bry this is Sheldon calling. I'm having a mansion party at my Vegas pad with Wade and Mikey. Booze and babes are on us. Can you make it? Before you answer that I'd just like to let you know, we are the rule not the exception".....
Redden could make more than some entire AHL rosters
We need a guy like that. Hartikainen, fills an organizational need for sure. This is a good hockey player, and a keeper IMO. Between Jones and Hartikainen this club will have some much needed character at the forward position/bottom six.
