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02-23-2011, 07:40 PM
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Advice on moving to North Shore + driving to Mtl

Hey there guys, I know most of you live in/near Montreal and I need advice. I'm planning on moving on the North Shore this summer(from Saint-Léonard/Anjou), most likely around Sainte-Thérèse. My wife is going at Université de Montréal and has no car, so she's gonna use public transports, and I'm a high school teacher looking to establish myself in the area of Sainte-Thérèse (the school board goes all the way to Oka, I 'd be okay with working there too)

However, there's that one school in Montreal which calls me 99% of the time and the secretary told me she'd still continue to call me if I move. So I want to teach on North Shore, but I still have back up job in Montreal to pay my bills. The school is located near Place Versailles.

I was wondering how is the traffic jam entering Montreal from Ste-Thérèse? (guess taking 640 then 15 or 19 then 40)

Also, I was wondering if places like St-Eustache or Deux-Montagnes would be better, as I'd be more in the center of the School Board. But I muts be able to get at the Montreal school before 8 o'clock (and the secretary usually calls me at 6:30 am) And how would transport be for my wife in public transports from there? is the Train a viable option in both cases? Or is it better in bus? or any other idea? (my wife getting a car is not an option, before you suggest it she's a horrible driver. lol)

It's important I move closer to the schoolboard so schools in that area offer me more contracts since we want to live in that area, not in Montreal. I don't mind the traffic for 2 years, until my wife finishes university, but I don't want to spend my whole life in traffic jams from out of Montreal onto the island.


Thanks a lot for your help in advance!


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You'll have a lot of traffic jam on the 15 going down to Mtl. I come from Ste-Rose, sometimes the traffic starts from my exit, sometimes even higher up north, but most of the times it starts around the 440 (carrefour Laval).
You should be stuck in traffic from 7-9h/9h30. Around 10ham there isn't much of it.
That's for the 15.

Can't help you out with the 640 nor with the 19, but I'm guessing there's a lot less traffic on those highways.

In any event, I lived in Mtl for 20ish years, then moved to Ste-Rose. Although the traffic is annoying if you're always stuck in rush hours, I still enjoy it a lot. It seems you had your eyes set on Ste-Thérèse, but I'd suggest you look at Rosemere, granted although more expensive. I just love Rosemere. During the summer, by the water, it's beautiful and peaceful.

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By car, A-15 South
From Ste-therese to laval, + 45 minutes
From Laval to Montreal, + 30 minutes

From Ste-Therese, you can get the train directly to Montreal, downtown (60 min to get to lucien lallier) or else (Parc 30 min, + 15 min of metro on the blue line to get to Université de Montreal)
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I live in St-Rose too but never take my car to go to work (downtown). It takes me 20min from home to the metro (Montmorency) by bus and 35 min to get to Mcgill.
deux-montagne is a good idea because you are close to the train (AMT)
I don't know how long it takes but it's the best way to travel according to most people I know.

The only reason why I take the bus is because the STL has a bus stop 3 mins away from my place.

Hope this helps,

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i'm curious im a teacher too at henri-bourassa in montreal-nord

what is the name of the school?

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I'm working at Academie Dunton, but I went to High School in Sophie-Barat, not far from your school.

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I'm working at Academie Dunton, but I went to High School in Sophie-Barat, not far from your school.
cool if you ever see a white yaris near henri bourassa school with a habs flag, this is my car

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i'm curious im a teacher too at henri-bourassa in montreal-nord

what is the name of the school?
That must suck...

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My answer : Don't

I've lived in the Rosemère/Boisbriand/St-Thérèse/Blainville region, I've lived in Laval, Montreal and several cities on the South shore, and I much rather live in Montreal if I'm working in Montreal.

Unless you're a masochist and enjoy losing a great many hours of your life sitting idly in a car with the sole pleasure of listening to music or radio jockies.

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I was living near Ste-Thérèse last year and I was going do Universite de Montreal. The fastest way to get there is the train. The only problem with the train is that if you don't have the regular 9 to 5 the train schedule are pretty awful.

The best solution may be to take the bus (number 9) from Gare Ste-Thérèse that leaves every 30min or so (every 15 min during rush hours) to go to Montmorency subway station. There's a priority lane reserved for those buses so you're not stuck in traffic so much. From Ste-Therese to Montmorency is 30min and from Montmorency to UdM is about a 25min ride.

I also know there's a bus (number 8) that goes from St-Eustache to Montmorency too, the ride may be longer however.

As for the traffic jams, it will take you about 1h30min to get downtown by car if you take the A-15 between 7 and 9, A-13 is a little bit better.

As far as quality of life goes, i'd say that the Ste-Thérèse region is better than St-Eustache, but that's a personal opinion.

BTW: Don't even think about taking A-19, it's even worse than A-15 and its only 1 lane wide with traffic lights that are not syncronized


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I presently live in the North Shore and I study at Polytechnique and I can say forme the train is the best option, but if I have to go to school in my car, I often take the 15 and it's hell on earth, starting early it can take you easilly 1h more to get to Montreal than it would normally take you, my father goes to work in Montreal every morning and since he can decide when he works he prefers getting up at 4AM and finish ealier to avoid traffic.

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i'm curious im a teacher too at henri-bourassa in montreal-nord

what is the name of the school?
french or english school? I went to the english one for sec 4 and 5. Assuming we mean the High Schools. Nvm, i just realized there's another school on henri b further west.

@Dolphinwave. Why not laval? I think you have a LOT more flexibility if you live in the middle of your two workplaces no?


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french or english school? I went to the english one for sec 4 and 5. Assuming we mean the High Schools. Nvm, i just realized there's another school on henri b further west.

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Yes lyrical. And it's even called Henri Bourrassa.

They're the ones that beat up a bunch of the ones from YOUR highschool.

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You could live in Laval, around Curé-Labelle/Chomedey, you could just take Curé-Labelle to get to Ste-Thérèse in the morning (like 10 minutes - no traffic in that direction) and your wife could take the Laval bus (902, 151, 144) to get to métro Cote-Vertu or (20, 24, 55) to get to Cartier/Henri-Bourrassa and get to UdeM in like 30 minutes.

The "trains de banlieus" system really sucks, that way you would be closer to Montréal until you get a contract in Ste-Thérèse and your wife would also be relatively close to UdeM.

The Autoroute 15 is also really close to that area.

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Yes lyrical. And it's even called Henri Bourrassa.

They're the ones that beat up a bunch of the ones from YOUR highschool.
I'm aware. I meant 1 of 2 schools(including HB), then I said nvm cuz there's a 3rd school on HB.

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You could live in Laval, around Curé-Labelle/Chomedey, you could just take Curé-Labelle to get to Ste-Thérèse in the morning (like 10 minutes - no traffic in that direction) and your wife could take the Laval bus (902, 151, 144) to get to métro Cote-Vertu or (20, 24, 55) to get to Cartier/Henri-Bourrassa and get to UdeM in like 30 minutes.

The "trains de banlieus" system really sucks, that way you would be closer to Montréal until you get a contract in Ste-Thérèse and your wife would also be relatively close to UdeM.

The Autoroute 15 is also really close to that area.
This is the most logical option.

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Here's a tip, try to find a place close to a train station that goes to both your work and your wife's school.

This will make both your lives much easier and stress free.

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Actually you would be better off taking the 25 which will be open as of May 1st and will take you right to Versaille, but it's a paying bridge, however it will save you plenty of headaches instead of pie 9 or Papineau

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I'd say somewhere in the Sainte-Thérèse/Rosemère area is the best for you. Lots of schools around there and good public transit options.

If your wife has a 9-to-5 type of schedule, taking the train will be painless. Especially since she goes to UdeM, the Parc station is just a few stations away from the UdeM campus. However, if she has any late afternoon or night classes, her commute will become hell. The last train leaves Lucien l'Allier at 6:30pm. After that, it's metro to Montmorency, then you have to take the SURF 9, and then another bus if you're not within walking distance of Gare Sainte-Thérèse. It can easily go over 2hrs.

As for the Montreal school, I think the best way to get there right now is to take the 640 E until Charlemagne and then hop on the 40 W that will get you right to Anjou. You'll get way less traffic on that side of the 640 and while you might encounter some around the 40 W junction, it's nothing compared to the hell hole that is the 15 during rush hour. As Habs 4 Life pointed out, there's also the 25 that will be opened, it's a good option if you're willing to pay everyday or get some sort of pass if they make those.

I'd say Deux-Montagnes is a good option as well, but it's gonna make your trips to the Montreal school a lot longer. However, if your wife has late classes, it would probably be more suitable as the Deux-Montagne trains run until 11:30ish at night.

I'd say moving in the Sainte-Thérèse/Rosemère/Lorraine would be your best bet. Avoid Bois-des-Fillion, it's a dump. In the Deux-Montagnes area, Deux-Montagnes and St-Janvier are pretty nice, I'd avoid Sainte-Eustache though.

Hope that helps!

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I'd say somewhere in the Sainte-Thérèse/Rosemère area is the best for you. Lots of schools around there and good public transit options.

If your wife has a 9-to-5 type of schedule, taking the train will be painless. Especially since she goes to UdeM, the Parc station is just a few stations away from the UdeM campus. However, if she has any late afternoon or night classes, her commute will become hell. The last train leaves Lucien l'Allier at 6:30pm. After that, it's metro to Montmorency, then you have to take the SURF 9, and then another bus if you're not within walking distance of Gare Sainte-Thérèse. It can easily go over 2hrs.

As for the Montreal school, I think the best way to get there right now is to take the 640 E until Charlemagne and then hop on the 40 W that will get you right to Anjou. You'll get way less traffic on that side of the 640 and while you might encounter some around the 40 W junction, it's nothing compared to the hell hole that is the 15 during rush hour. As Habs 4 Life pointed out, there's also the 25 that will be opened, it's a good option if you're willing to pay everyday or get some sort of pass if they make those.

I'd say Deux-Montagnes is a good option as well, but it's gonna make your trips to the Montreal school a lot longer. However, if your wife has late classes, it would probably be more suitable as the Deux-Montagne trains run until 11:30ish at night.

I'd say moving in the Sainte-Thérèse/Rosemère/Lorraine would be your best bet. Avoid Bois-des-Fillion, it's a dump. In the Deux-Montagnes area, Deux-Montagnes and St-Janvier are pretty nice, I'd avoid Sainte-Eustache though.

Hope that helps!
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I'd say somewhere in the Sainte-Thérèse/Rosemère area is the best for you. Lots of schools around there and good public transit options.

If your wife has a 9-to-5 type of schedule, taking the train will be painless. Especially since she goes to UdeM, the Parc station is just a few stations away from the UdeM campus. However, if she has any late afternoon or night classes, her commute will become hell. The last train leaves Lucien l'Allier at 6:30pm. After that, it's metro to Montmorency, then you have to take the SURF 9, and then another bus if you're not within walking distance of Gare Sainte-Thérèse. It can easily go over 2hrs.

As for the Montreal school, I think the best way to get there right now is to take the 640 E until Charlemagne and then hop on the 40 W that will get you right to Anjou. You'll get way less traffic on that side of the 640 and while you might encounter some around the 40 W junction, it's nothing compared to the hell hole that is the 15 during rush hour. As Habs 4 Life pointed out, there's also the 25 that will be opened, it's a good option if you're willing to pay everyday or get some sort of pass if they make those.

I'd say Deux-Montagnes is a good option as well, but it's gonna make your trips to the Montreal school a lot longer. However, if your wife has late classes, it would probably be more suitable as the Deux-Montagne trains run until 11:30ish at night.

I'd say moving in the Sainte-Thérèse/Rosemère/Lorraine would be your best bet. Avoid Bois-des-Fillion, it's a dump. In the Deux-Montagnes area, Deux-Montagnes and St-Janvier are pretty nice, I'd avoid Sainte-Eustache though.

Hope that helps!
It's a little pricey but well worth the non traffic headache

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i would try and stick around the bottom half of laval. ste-do, chomedey, laval des rapides...

unless you like more traffic and rive-nord bougons.

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Thanks a lot to all of you, this help is really really appreciated. You know, talking to few people I know helped a bit, but having more opinions definitely helps a long way. Your help is very very very appreciated! =D

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Hey there guys, I know most of you live in/near Montreal and I need advice. I'm planning on moving on the North Shore this summer(from Saint-Léonard/Anjou), most likely around Sainte-Thérèse. My wife is going at Université de Montréal and has no car, so she's gonna use public transports, and I'm a high school teacher looking to establish myself in the area of Sainte-Thérèse (the school board goes all the way to Oka, I 'd be okay with working there too)

However, there's that one school in Montreal which calls me 99% of the time and the secretary told me she'd still continue to call me if I move. So I want to teach on North Shore, but I still have back up job in Montreal to pay my bills. The school is located near Place Versailles.

I was wondering how is the traffic jam entering Montreal from Ste-Thérèse? (guess taking 640 then 15 or 19 then 40)Also, I was wondering if places like St-Eustache or Deux-Montagnes would be better, as I'd be more in the center of the School Board. But I muts be able to get at the Montreal school before 8 o'clock (and the secretary usually calls me at 6:30 am) And how would transport be for my wife in public transports from there? is the Train a viable option in both cases? Or is it better in bus? or any other idea? (my wife getting a car is not an option, before you suggest it she's a horrible driver. lol)

It's important I move closer to the schoolboard so schools in that area offer me more contracts since we want to live in that area, not in Montreal. I don't mind the traffic for 2 years, until my wife finishes university, but I don't want to spend my whole life in traffic jams from out of Montreal onto the island.


Thanks a lot for your help in advance!
The traffic jams in that area (st.therese,rosemere,lorraine,boisdesfilion,boisbr iand,blainville,terrebone)on all of those routes - 15,19,13,,40,640 - are hell on earth during rush hours and 10x's worse during snowstorms - it took me 4 hours to get home from downtown during this year's first major snowstorm. If you want to keep your sanity I would advise avoiding it at all costs.

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Well, traffic coming FROM Montreal I don't mind. I finish early, at 2:35 so I should avoid most of the big traffic except on fridays. It's the morning I am worried about as I don'T want to come in late.

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