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04-24-2011, 03:58 PM
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Don't worry. Scott Gomez is a proven playoff performer and will step it up when it matters most.
Where is Math Man? His equations aren't working out

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Where are all the people who wanted the 'Siesta' taken out of the thread title after game 1?

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Well, I hope he wakes up and gets Gionta going, too. I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for it, but you never know. He looked pretty decent Game 1.

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That's me being optimistic.

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I defended Gomez all year because he was a Hab and I believe in supporting your own but what I find is sad that I don't see any hope. At best he is a 35-50 point player next year. Sadly I don't see him ever reaching 60 points again in his career.

Unfortunately he looks like one of those players that decline at a young age. However I'm not dillusional like most people who think we'll magically trade or bury him anytime soon.

I will focus my attention at the rest of the team.
He's been bad ever since he signed that $51.5m contract. Since money is guaranteed in hockey (unlike in the NFL for instance)...

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He's been bad ever since he signed that $51.5m contract. Since money is guaranteed in hockey (unlike in the NFL for instance)...
There is almost no reason for Gomez to pick up his game. He's won two cups, he's gotten his big-ass deal, and he doesn't have much pressure because he's on a "defensive" team.

I hope a team like Florida takes him. I really hope so.

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The guy is so bad that even if he didnt score in his last 35 games or so, nobody is talking about it.

Seriously, the guy can't score, can't shoot, can't hit, can't win face-off, can't make his wingers better and plays on the perimeter. Now, he can't even play well in the playoff. If the Molsons really want to win the Cup, I hope they agree to pay him to play in the Ahl, Gomez is handcuffing this team so much with his contract. Can't stand the guy anymore.

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Where is Math Man? His equations aren't working out
He is just unlucky.

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Don't worry. Scott Gomez is a proven playoff performer and will step it up when it matters most.
Yeah, right...




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04-25-2011, 12:27 AM
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Clearly you haven't seen Drury play much lately. The only thing better about Drury over Gomez is that Drury's albatross contract ends within one year, rather than having three years left.

EDIT: Ok, that's not entirely far -- he did have a great faceoff percentage against the Caps, too. Best $7m faceoff specialist in the league, bar none!
Drury is awful, no question about that, but as you said yourself he can win a faceoff at least. He also scored a goal within the last 3 months so he's on a bit of a ''hot streak'' as far as retardedly overpaid centers go.

The end of Drury's contract in a foreseeable future is also a huge, huge +.

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04-25-2011, 05:15 AM
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Siesta?!

Vamos, Gomez, vamos!! Vandeley!! vandeley!! before it's too late!! (gulp!).


Time to try it again? Reunite Pouliot with Gomez and Gionta?! maybe try it just for one period? (high risk, high reward? or...just high risk?!). Tough to do this one...could be too risky.



Wiz IN? OUT?
DD in? out?


Weber in?
Pouliot in?
Mara in? (4th line, or rotate as 6th Dman with Spacek??)

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04-25-2011, 09:24 AM
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...He doesn't care, doesn't try...
You see that's where I think you're wrong. He does care and does try. That's what makes his play all the more pathetic.

How can anyone who cares & tries play so badly?


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04-25-2011, 09:55 AM
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The organization cannot say they are dedicated to winning if they continue to employ him.

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04-25-2011, 10:43 AM
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Yes, his play makes the other points worst, of course. But I will disagree on McDo's possible development with us based on Subban's play. There is room for 2 kids developing. You would have used Subban more efficiently if McDo would have been around. You would have not needed to acquire guys like Sopel and Mara if McDo would have shown you what he was showing towards mid-season. And even if he would not have development the way he did with the Rangers, a less develop version of him would still have given us great results. And I'm not even talking about the future, it's not always solely about THIS season, we have to reconstruct that D this summer, and he would have been 1 less problem to figure out. The deal in itself made no sense based on the fact that Sather desperately wanted to get rid of him....your #2 best prospect should not have been part of that kidn of deal. We were not talking about Brad Richards here. And we were not talking about Scott Gomez, the great deal breaker that attracts every UFA to sign here like some would like to pretend.

But I agree, it all comes down to performance. A performance he had already showed he didn't have with the Rangers. There were signs of decline as far as he was concerned, we chose to ignore it and give one of our best prospect in return....and maybe another one in Valentenko who was described by Timmins (that guy everybody praises now 'cause of his great picks who's doing great elsewhere)....as a better version of Emelin. An Emelin we hope will come over to save us..
McD is the big X factor when looking at this trade. I absolutely hated the fact that we dealt him when this deal went down.

Adding Gomez was terrible to begin with (esp when we paired him with a bunch of other small forwards) but giving up McD made me sick. We won't know the full extent of how bad this trade really was for another few years. If McD turns into a great blueliner, this trade is going to go down in Hab history as one of the worst ever.

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If McD turns into a great blueliner, this trade is going to go down in Hab history as one of the worst ever.

He's got 1 more game to help redeem himself for this year.

With that said, If McD turns out to be a career bottom pairing AHLer, this trade will still be one of the worst in Hab history imo... barring plans of steroid use.

There is no excuse in acquiring other teams cap burdens without being compensated for it!

As for next year, I really have my doubts that Gomez will be able to bounce back with a 60+ pt season... He's a 3rd liner who is overpaid by 6 Million.

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04-25-2011, 11:32 AM
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He did play in ECHL already in the lockout year and only scored 86 points (13 goals...). Don't think he has a shot at 95 points

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He did play in ECHL already in the lockout year and only scored 86 points (13 goals...). Don't think he has a shot at 95 points
Didn't he get injured that year? What was the injury?

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04-25-2011, 12:07 PM
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Didn't he get injured that year? What was the injury?
Wasn't it a broken pelvis in an ECHL playoff game?

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He's got 1 more game to help redeem himself for this year.

There is no excuse in acquiring other teams cap burdens without being compensated for it!

As for next year, I really have my doubts that Gomez will be able to bounce back with a 60+ pt season... He's a 3rd liner who is overpaid by 6 Million.
Hey... we agree on this one.

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He's got 1 more game to help redeem himself for this year.

With that said, If McD turns out to be a career bottom pairing AHLer, this trade will still be one of the worst in Hab history imo... barring plans of steroid use.

There is no excuse in acquiring other teams cap burdens without being compensated for it!
That's how I felt about this deal. If you want to give us Pyatt to take Gomez we give you back a 3rd rounder or something... that's how it should've been worked. I still don't like it but okay..

Us giving up Higgins (who thankfully for us hasn't done anything since) and McD to take on this albatross of a contract made no sense.
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As for next year, I really have my doubts that Gomez will be able to bounce back with a 60+ pt season... He's a 3rd liner who is overpaid by 6 Million.
I just can't understand how he's been this bad though. I figured 60 points out of the guy was what we could expect. I'm shocked at how bad he's been this year. Is it conditioning? What's wrong with him? And please don't say it's bad luck...

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04-25-2011, 02:12 PM
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I just can't understand how he's been this bad though. I figured 60 points out of the guy was what we could expect. I'm shocked at how bad he's been this year. Is it conditioning? What's wrong with him? And please don't say it's bad luck...
He is just afraid to shoot he puck. When ever he touches the puck, the other team knows he will pass. Even if he isn't scoring, shooting more often will allow more passes to go through.

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He is just afraid to shoot he puck. When ever he touches the puck, the other team knows he will pass. Even if he isn't scoring, shooting more often will allow more passes to go through.
Someone who makes 8M a year playing professional sports shouldn't have such menial mental issues. If he does he should hire a psychiatrist and fix his issues.. there's no excuses at this point. I can understand some low-confidence periods, etc.. but when you stink so much for so long it goes beyond simply "being afraid to shoot".

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He's in full siesta mode alright...

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But he's a vet. He deserves to be held to a more lax standard than filthy, untrustworty, defensively irresponsible rookies like Eller and DD. He provides more offense than they do and never misses his coverages, like on that goal Bergeron scored.

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04-25-2011, 03:32 PM
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Someone who makes 8M a year playing professional sports shouldn't have such menial mental issues. If he does he should hire a psychiatrist and fix his issues.. there's no excuses at this point. I can understand some low-confidence periods, etc.. but when you stink so much for so long it goes beyond simply "being afraid to shoot".
Its not an excuse, he has underperformed since signing the contract, and the difference between last year and this year is how predictable he has been.

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Make him disapear or something, the situation is getting out of hands.

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