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08-11-2011, 12:53 PM
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Northwest Division

Calgary, Edmonton, Colorado, Minnesota. Those four teams have a chance to be the bottom four teams in the conference this year. Has that ever happened before? I know the Central used to be pretty terrible when Detroit was beating up on them for all those years....

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They are not as bad as it seems, but they are not as good as the other teams ahead of them... that is the problem.

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Detroit always beat up on everyone else at a similar pace, not sure if the per division record has been made for Vancouver though. But one thing to keep in mind between then and now is there were 8 games against each divisional team when the Central was weak, and that has since been reduced to 6 divisional games. So the weak division bonus has certainly been weakened.

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Uh oh, I do not like where this could be going...

Anywho, I highly doubt the Northwest division will have the 4 bottom feeders of the Western Conference, or the league for that matter. The teams listed, especially Edmonton and Colorado (not being a homer here) are extremely underrated. Both are young, have blossoming talent, got bigger and more gritty, and so on. Minnesota, on the other hand, added guys like Heatley and Setoguchi which will drastically improve their offense in my opinion. There are definitely many question marks surrounding the teams in the NW division, but I HIGHLY doubt they will all flounder. Do not be surprised to see one of Minny, Edmonton, Colorado taking the 7-8 seed next season. Calgary... yeah, I do not have anything good to say about the direction they have been heading these past few seasons, but hey- to each their own!

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This division is what makes Vancouver look good.
Yeah cause their record outside the division was abysmal...

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There is a reason Vancouver was "the best" team last year.
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Detroit always beat up on everyone else at a similar pace, not sure if the per division record has been made for Vancouver though. But one thing to keep in mind between then and now is there were 8 games against each divisional team when the Central was weak, and that has since been reduced to 6 divisional games. So the weak division bonus has certainly been weakened.
6 divisional games = 24 games = 30% of schedule

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I wouldnt underestimate the Flames, they werent that bad last year. Everyone seems to think they are getting too old but i dont think thats a reasonable argument considering the Redwings are also pretty old and havent become terrible. With that said i still dont think the Flames will make the playoffs.

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Colorado, Minnesota and Edmonton were all in the bottom four last year, with Calgary finishing tenth. Calgary will probably be a bit worse next year, but I could see Colorado doing better if they stay relatively healthy. Still not sold on Minny or the Oilers just yet.

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Or they could finish top 4 in the conference... Guess that's why its pointless to make irrelevant speculations.

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Last time I checked the canucks beat 2 central division teams and a pacific division team in the playoffs.

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They only beat the defending champs, the 2nd seed, and another great team in Nashville.
Though no luck against the eastern conference.

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1.Vancouver
2.Calgary/Minnesota (1 of these teams make it)
3.Colorado
4.Edmonton

Yes Colorado is better then Edmonton.

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But how good were they over a 46 game period!?!??

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I think Minnesota surprises and grabs the 8th seed.

Edmonton is still a year away from playoff contention.

Calgary will flounder again. Kiprusoff's best days are well behind him.

Colorado is the hardest team to predict. I'm thinking they finish around 10th

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VAN (1-3 in the West)
MIN (8-10)
EDM (10-12)
COL (8-15)
CGY (13-15)

I could be discounting Colorado way too much. I like their moves this offseason. Could be much better (hence the large range). The only thing I don't like is the Varlamov trade.

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I think Minnesota surprises and grabs the 8th seed.

Edmonton is still a year away from playoff contention.

Calgary will flounder again. Kiprusoff's best days are well behind him.

Colorado is the hardest team to predict. I'm thinking they finish around 10th
Very, very, very true. As an Av fan, all I can do is shrug my shoulders when someone asks me how the Avs are going to do next season. It could go VERY well, could be "meh", or could crash-and-burn. While I like to think the Avs will be pushing for 7th-8th, I would not be shocked if they nab as low as 10th. Any lower and I will be HIGHLY disappointed and really question Sherman.

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1.Vancouver
2.Calgary/Minnesota (1 of these teams make it)
3.Colorado
4.Edmonton

Yes Colorado is better then Edmonton.
Minnesota is a tough to forecast at this point. Calgary is going to surprise some people if they don't implode again. Edmonton needs to inject more veterans into their lineup to assist the kids and keep the losing from sinking in. Colorado....well they're rebuilding.

Vancouver is going to cruise the regular season again. However, their major failure in the playoffs was relying on just 3 lines to win a cup. They can't do that again. They need 4 full lines.

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Right, the defending cup champs. a team with 2 Norris caliber defenceman, along with the best goalie in the league, and a team with the best top 6 in the league. But no the Canucks played weak opponents
The defending cup champs that dismantled their team and barley made the playoffs. Then a team that does nothing in the playoffs every year. Oh and a western final between 2 teams that choke every year...

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Very, very, very true. As an Av fan, all I can do is shrug my shoulders when someone asks me how the Avs are going to do next season. It could go VERY well, could be "meh", or could crash-and-burn. While I like to think the Avs will be pushing for 7th-8th, I would not be shocked if they nab as low as 10th. Any lower and I will be HIGHLY disappointed and really question Sherman.
I really like the addition of Varlamov. If he can make the proper adjustments with his new goalie coach and work on the mental side of his game (which will come from more experience and a new environment) , he can become a very good goaltender. He has all the tools imo

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The defending cup champs that dismantled their team and barley made the playoffs. Then a team that does nothing in the playoffs every year. Oh and a western final between 2 teams that choke every year...
Chicago still had there core players, any team with a core of Toews, Kane, Keith, Hossa, Seabrook, and Sharp are always gonna be dangerous. They also got a upgrade in net. The Preds would give many team fits, they only way you can beat them is if you can beat them at there own game, luckily Vancouver knows how to play sound defensively, and they got the scoring when they needed it from Kesler. Lastly how do you consider a team that since the lockout has only lost 1 series to a team with fewer points. Go take your Canucks hate elsewhere.

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1.Vancouver
2.Calgary/Minnesota (1 of these teams make it)
3.Colorado
4.Edmonton

Yes Colorado is better then Edmonton.
and calgary and minnesota.

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Yes they did. Traded in 2006 off season, won the NW, beat Dallas, lost to Anahiem in 2007 playoffs.
Umm no. The Canucks did not qualify for the 2006 playoffs. Post 05-06 trade deadline was one of the biggest meltdowns/quit jobs in Canucks history.

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I have no idea how this thread took the off-the-rails turn that it did.

Actually, I have two very specific ideas, but I'll discuss those ideas with those people individually.

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