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04-04-2011, 10:09 AM
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Kennedy has worked with both Malkin and Crosby, but somehow, he always ends up back with Staal.

Kennedy's game is pretty universal, IMO.

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04-04-2011, 10:12 AM
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Kennedy has worked with both Malkin and Crosby, but somehow, he always ends up back with Staal.

Kennedy's game is pretty universal, IMO.
Yeah he has the ability to really match his game to who he's playing with. TBH, I think the reason why the 3rd line works is because of Kennedy and not Staal. When Kennedy is playing well, that 3rd line is playing well.

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04-04-2011, 10:16 AM
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Yeah he has the ability to really match his game to who he's playing with. TBH, I think the reason why the 3rd line works is because of Kennedy and not Staal. When Kennedy is playing well, that 3rd line is playing well.
I don't doubt that at all, actually, and it has held true for the most part.

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I remember some people wanted him benched/waived and some people wanted him on Crosby's wing before the season. There was really no in between.

The rest of the Crosby's wing people and I were right!
In all honesty, I just didn't want him to be demoted to 4th line minutes, or even worse SCRATCHED (which is what a lot of people around here were asking to happen). I've seen the potential in TK's game since his rookie season, and in all honesty I think the kid just never got the chance to really fluorish due to his inability to stay health. This season has shown first hand though what he's capable of when given ample ice time on the top 6, and when he's able to actually stay healthy. If he can consistently play 75+ games a season, then I can definitely see him turning out to be a 20-25 goal, 40-50 point player on a regular basis.

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04-04-2011, 04:55 PM
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His production is not that far off from 08-09 aside from increase in PP time and more games played. He's alternated good and bad seasons; question is will next year be a good season.

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Trade staal for kulemin and let Sid skate with his ideal linemates....

Kunitz-Sid-Kennedy
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04-04-2011, 05:57 PM
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whats with everyone not seeing kulemin as good value? Any of u watch him play? Hed dominate with malkin. Kids a workhorse and has already exceeded staal offensively.

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04-04-2011, 07:07 PM
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Kulemin is worth more than Staal, IMO. We'd probably have to add.

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Kulemin is worth more than Staal, IMO. We'd probably have to add.
I'd agree. I'd have no problem adding as he isn't a right hand shot which we could use but can play both wing positions from what I hear and is a decade long solution for Malkin.

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04-04-2011, 08:56 PM
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whats with everyone not seeing kulemin as good value? Any of u watch him play? Hed dominate with malkin. Kids a workhorse and has already exceeded staal offensively.
If we want a right-handed top 6 shot for Malkin, I'd rather have Corey Perry or someone like that. He'd fit better with the system, and he would be like having Hossa on Crosby's wing for 82 games/year

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If Corey Perry ever leaves Anaheim his contract is going to be alot more than we can afford. He's at 5 mil/season only bc that's what getzlaf took and him and ryan followed suit. Kulemin is realistic, Perry would take trading Malkin if I was their GM.

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04-05-2011, 08:37 AM
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If we want a right-handed top 6 shot for Malkin, I'd rather have Corey Perry or someone like that. He'd fit better with the system, and he would be like having Hossa on Crosby's wing for 82 games/year
And I'd like Shea Weber and Nik Lidstrom on our blue line...

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Chris Kunitz ($3.725m) - Sidney Crosby ($8.700m) - Tyler Kennedy ($1.650m)
James Neal ($2.875m) - Evgeni Malkin ($8.700m) - Alexei Kovalev ($2.000m)
Dustin Jeffrey ($0.650m) - Jordan Staal ($4.000m) - Matt Cooke ($1.800m)
Michael Rupp ($0.825m) - Mark Letestu ($0.625m) - Craig Adams ($0.750m)
Joe Vitale ($0.512m)

DEFENSEMEN
Paul Martin ($5.000m) - Zbynek Michalek ($4.000m)
Brooks Orpik ($3.750m) - Kristopher Letang ($3.500m)
Matt Niskanen ($1.500m) - Deryk Engelland ($0.566m)
Ben Lovejoy ($0.525m)

GOALTENDERS
Marc-Andre Fleury ($5.000m) - Brent Johnson ($0.600m)

SALARY CAP: $62,000,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $745,833


I would throw these lineups at the start of 11-12 season.

- Kennedy with Sid and Kunie. This really could work.

- Rupp and Vitale could be changeable and if Talbot is ready to take a slight pay cut to stay here, I would replace Vitale with him and we would still have some cap room.. Of course depending how much cap will rise. And almost forgot Asham! He could be one to re-sign also.

- Jeffrey could fit with Staal 'cause he can pass and shoot the puck and also play 2-way game with frame. Cooke can play on right side and could be a "new start" for him.


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If Corey Perry ever leaves Anaheim his contract is going to be alot more than we can afford. He's at 5 mil/season only bc that's what getzlaf took and him and ryan followed suit. Kulemin is realistic, Perry would take trading Malkin if I was their GM.
No way Anaheim gives up someone like Perry, who seems to be establishing himself as just as much of a franchise player as Getzlaf, for anything less than another franchise quality player.

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04-05-2011, 11:30 AM
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I'd say he definitely deserves it.

20 goals and 42 points thus far this season, and he's got 3 more games to build on those numbers. He's also arguably been our hottest and most consistent performer since Sid and Geno went down. For a while now many of us wondered if TK truly had the ability to be a top sixer at this level. We've always seen flashes and glimpses of the kind of player he COULD be. I think this season he has proven first hand that he can definitely be the real deal if given ample opportunity.

Here's to hoping that DB rewards TK's progression by giving him a full-time job on the top 6 next season...
Here's to hoping DB remembers he's an NHL coach and puts the right players there instead.

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Here's to hoping DB remembers he's an NHL coach and puts the right players there instead.
Which would be Tyler Kennedy...

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Which would be Tyler Kennedy...
If you simply go by the stats without Crosby and Malkin in the lineup, sure. If not, you'd probably rather see guys like Neal, Kunitz, Letestu, Jeffrey or Kovalev there.

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Kennedy sucks

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If you simply go by the stats without Crosby and Malkin in the lineup, sure. If not, you'd probably rather see guys like Neal, Kunitz, Letestu, Jeffrey or Kovalev there.
Or you can look at what Kennedy has done of the course of his career, given a fraction of the opportunity as other players, but putting up pretty good stats, when healthy. Or you can go by when he has played in the top 6 with Crosby or Malkin, things happened. Or you could go by right now when the team needed someone to step up and fill in some scoring, he did it.

The Kennedy haters are very quickly losing all of their ammunition.

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If you simply go by the stats without Crosby and Malkin in the lineup, sure. If not, you'd probably rather see guys like Neal, Kunitz, Letestu, Jeffrey or Kovalev there.
Or you could watch the games and realize that Kennedy flat out produces offense and his style of play would perfectly compliment Crosby's. If you can't see that then I don't think anything anybody says from here on is going to help you.

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If you simply go by the stats without Crosby and Malkin in the lineup, sure. If not, you'd probably rather see guys like Neal, Kunitz, Letestu, Jeffrey or Kovalev there.
I love to hear why would you put Letestu/Jeffrey there instead of TK...

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I love to hear why would you put Letestu/Jeffrey there instead of TK...
Their new car smell hasn't worn off yet?

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If you simply go by the stats without Crosby and Malkin in the lineup, sure. If not, you'd probably rather see guys like Neal, Kunitz, Letestu, Jeffrey or Kovalev there.
If we're talking about next year, I don't see how Kovalev is even in the mix. Plus, there's only one guy in that group who would ever have any chance of being a good linemate for Crosby (that's Kunitz, obviously). Crosby needs fast-skating, offensively skilled, tenacious linemates with at least some offensive creativity. Crosby also prefers having a right-shooting linemate. Kennedy fits there.

I also think Kennedy could play well with Malkin, but there are more guys on the roster and in the system who I think could play well with Malkin. Speed isn't a prerequisite. I'm thinking he should play with Neal and Letestu.

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TK on one of the top two lines next year is a no brainer.

If he doesn't play in either spot, it'll be the first time I really go against this staff.

Kunitz/Neal-Crosby-Kennedy = Very annoying to play against

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TK on one of the top two lines next year is a no brainer.

If he doesn't play in either spot, it'll be the first time I really go against this staff.

Kunitz/Neal-Crosby-Kennedy = Very annoying to play against
There is no way I can see that line not being very good together.

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