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04-05-2011, 12:29 PM
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Frans Nielsen Shutdown for Remainder of Season

Frans was on XM Radio NHL 204 "The War Room" this morning and stated the NYI have shut him down for the season due to a concussion.

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http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey...files-1.812028

Strang says unlikely for Boston...

Seems like Isles are going to play the day-to-day thing to avoid saying anything more on the subject.

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Frans was on XM Radio this morning and stated the NYI have shut him down for the season due to a concussion.
Safe and smart move. But nothing for Gaborik, not even a hearing .
It's like the NHL is saying it never happened, or if it did, it doesn't count because Gaborik is "not that kind of player". Well he is "that kind of player" because everyone saw him do it, so it can't be denied.
Until they take the ambiguity out of these decisions, the NHL can be considered a garage league.

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Safe and smart move. But nothing for Gaborik, not even a hearing .
It's like the NHL is saying it never happened, or if it did, it doesn't count because Gaborik is "not that kind of player". Well he is "that kind of player" because everyone saw him do it, so it can't be denied.
Until they take the ambiguity out of these decisions, the NHL can be considered a garage league.
That hit did not warrant a suspension nor a hearing.

But, that aside, I'm not surprised by this move and was hoping that they would shut him down if it was more serious.

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I don't care what anyone says, that was a reckless hit. They aren't consistent in the least with these rules.

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That hit did not warrant a suspension nor a hearing.
GOB,
Do you think if the offender was other than Gaborik (not a star player), do you think a hearing/suspension would be forthcoming?


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There is no way the league would suspend a star player on the Rangers late in the season especially when they're fighting for their playoff lives. Not happening.

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As I expected and as they should, Franz is our best all around player and should be handled with kid gloves. No sense having him get worse, especially with a very rough Pens came coming up.

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Safe and smart move. But nothing for Gaborik, not even a hearing .
It's like the NHL is saying it never happened, or if it did, it doesn't count because Gaborik is "not that kind of player". Well he is "that kind of player" because everyone saw him do it, so it can't be denied.
Until they take the ambiguity out of these decisions, the NHL can be considered a garage league.

Ill tell ya one thing, Gabby better watch out for the NYI tough guys or in general our whole team. This unit seems to really like Franzie alot so watch out Gabby. they will be coming for you next year dude

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I was hoping Franz would be OK and finish out a strong season, oh well...
Gaborik should have gotten 5 and thrown out of the game. Don't think anything further as he did not appear to be reckless with the hit.

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agree with the move (what a surprise!). the isles gain nothing by having him play 1 or two more games this season, whereas the risk if he gets hit is too high for long term consequences.

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I didn't read the article (I cant') but is this precautionary or is he that bad?


I wonder if Snow set a tape to the NHL offices for them to review.

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Good. Better safe than sorry. Time to focus on building for next season.

Gaborik should've been suspended. Its crazy how Colon didn't do **** about it. He suspends Heatley for 2 games on his first offense but gives Gaborik nothing. Absolutely ridiculous.

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Good. Better safe than sorry. Time to focus on building for next season.

Gaborik should've been suspended. Its crazy how Colon didn't do **** about it. He suspends Heatley for 2 games on his first offense but gives Gaborik nothing. Absolutely ridiculous.
'The wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round, round and round.'

They really need to replace Campbell, but it'll never happen since he's so solidly entrenched in the boy's club network. He's supposed to to objective, but he's so far from it, it's sickening. I wouldn't have a problem if he was consistent with the suspensions, but his justifications are very weak on why player A gets suspended and why player B gets nothing.

You want hits to the head out of the game? Then get an outside 3rd party to handle it. It's clear the current regime is not getting it done.

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That hit did not warrant a suspension nor a hearing.

But, that aside, I'm not surprised by this move and was hoping that they would shut him down if it was more serious.
I respectfully disagree.... That hit didn't warrant a suspension nor a hearing BEFORE the league decided that there is no place in this game for "head shots".

The question now becomes: If Gaborik didn't deserve at least a hearing with the league because he doesn't have "a history" of these types of hits, then, without ever being penalized by the league for THIS hit, does it still mean that he doesn't have a history of this type of hits??????

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I still wouldn't be surprised if he ends up playing in the WC...

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I don't care what anyone says, that was a reckless hit. They aren't consistent in the least with these rules.
Would like to hear from all of those who thought I was out of line w/the Bertuzzi hit and the fact that the NHL remains a joke when it comes to head shots, head injuries, and hits from behind.

****ing scum bags.

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There is no way the league would suspend a star player on the Rangers late in the season especially when they're fighting for their playoff lives. Not happening.


This.

We can argue whether or not the hit was dirty, but the bottom line is this...

If Gillies makes the exact same hit, he gets suspended.

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I still wouldn't be surprised if he ends up playing in the WC...
No way. Snow wouldn't even let him play with a sore toe nail.

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We'll see what happens to Torres for his hit on Eberle... which, IMO, was an absolutely clean hit.

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This.

We can argue whether or not the hit was dirty, but the bottom line is this...

If Gillies makes the exact same hit, he gets suspended.
Maybe, but only because of his history. Z, JT, Okie, none one else really would get suspended for that hit as it wouldn't have warranted one.

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Maybe, but only because of his history. Z, JT, Okie, none one else really would get suspended for that hit as it wouldn't have warranted one.
A player's history should have nothing to do with whether or not they get suspended, but I agree it could impact how long they are suspended. The infraction should dictate whether or not a suspension is given. In this case, I don't think Gaborik intended to hurt Nielsen, but he is responsible for his actions and should be held accountable.

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A player's history should have nothing to do with whether or not they get suspended, but I agree it could impact how long they are suspended. The infraction should dictate whether or not a suspension is given. In this case, I don't think Gaborik intended to hurt Nielsen, but he is responsible for his actions and should be held accountable.
If its borderline then the concept is still the same, as long as the play was illegal (i.e. penalized).

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A player's history should have nothing to do with whether or not they get suspended, but I agree it could impact how long they are suspended. The infraction should dictate whether or not a suspension is given. In this case, I don't think Gaborik intended to hurt Nielsen, but he is responsible for his actions and should be held accountable.
Word is that the NFL's "James Harrison Rule" next season penalizing hits to the head will not only feature compounded fines/suspensions, but there will be no grace period and the players will be starting with the fines/suspensions from the last three seasons already on their record.

If the NFL does decide to go that route, that is a true crackdown against hits to the head. Anyone who follows the Steelers knows that Harrison's game was off for a few weeks, but eventually he made the plays again - without the highlight blows to the head.

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