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Long-term #1 goalie for WAS?

View Poll Results: Long-term #1 goalie for WAS?
Varlamov 18 17.48%
Neuvirth 33 32.04%
Holtby 52 50.49%
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03-26-2011, 09:26 PM
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Long-term #1 goalie for WAS?

When all is said and done, who do you think will end up being the long-term #1 goalie for WAS?

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03-26-2011, 09:28 PM
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You might as well flip a coin. A 3-sided coin.

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03-26-2011, 09:29 PM
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I'm going with Neuvy....Varly can't stay healthy. Prove me wrong Varly....please!

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03-26-2011, 09:31 PM
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Unless Varly can address his fragility, all his talent is worthless.
Neuvy is a safe bet as he doesn't seem to get rattled easily.
Holtby doesn't get rattled either. His juggling act in the 3rd really shows how relaxed this kid is.

I gotta go with Holtby when all said and done.

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03-26-2011, 09:34 PM
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Holtby. And I've been saying it for awhile now.

The kid just has "it".

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03-26-2011, 09:36 PM
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I'm going back and forth between Neuvirth and Holtby.

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03-26-2011, 09:39 PM
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Holtby. And I've been saying it for awhile now.

The kid just has "it".
Holtby does have some of that je ne sais quoi.

He and Neuvirth are who I'm most comfortable with at this point.

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03-27-2011, 07:39 AM
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long term? I am going to say Holtby. That said, the league doesn't know him yet. Not nearly as well as they know Varly and Neuvy. I'll be more comfortable after he isnt a surprise anymore.

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03-27-2011, 07:54 AM
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i voted holtby purely under the shiny new toy theory.

that being said, holtby's attitude reminds me a lot of kolzig. he's got an edge to him and a sense of competitiveness i don't really see from the other guys. can't really go wrong with any of them, if healthy, though. three very different but very talented goaltenders.

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03-27-2011, 08:16 AM
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that sense of competitiveness is very often a bad thing. its emotion based. kolzig is a prime example. you get him angry and sometimes it sharpened his game. sometimes it made a dominating impression to his teammates when he trashed the locker room. sometimes his game came apart at the seams. like when roloson used hendricks as a punching bag and then gave up a bunch of goals.

varly and neuvirth are not bothered by anything. they dont care if they give up a goal. they dont care if someone gets in his crease or runs him over.

if holtby were the caps goalie in the playoffs, getting his to swing his stick at guys would be part of the plan to get him off his game.

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that sense of competitiveness is very often a bad thing. its emotion based. kolzig is a prime example. you get him angry and sometimes it sharpened his game. sometimes it made a dominating impression to his teammates when he trashed the locker room. sometimes his game came apart at the seams. like when roloson used hendricks as a punching bag and then gave up a bunch of goals.

varly and neuvirth are not bothered by anything. they dont care if they give up a goal. they dont care if someone gets in his crease or runs him over.

if holtby were the caps goalie in the playoffs, getting his to swing his stick at guys would be part of the plan to get him off his game.
That's part of the trapping of youth though. He'll learn when he can let that out and spark his team and when to ignore it and work the officials. I really don't think we can go wrong with keeping any combo of the 3. I just think Holtby will be the best of the 3.

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In addition to injury concerns, Varly's style of play will likely prohibit him from being the guy in the long run. He's positioning is not great by any stretch of the imagination, which he compensates from w/ this athleticism and agility. Once those two start to fade, Varly will be screwed... unless he learns how to play the position.

Nuevy on the other hand is a great example of 'economy of movement.' He always seems to be in a position to make a save and then absorbs the rebound. This bodes well for him in the long run.

Holtby looks great; little shaky on rebound control. I need a larger sample size before proclaiming him the guy.

Playoffs should be telling in this debate.

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03-27-2011, 08:41 AM
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Neuvirth is solid, but destined to be an average goalie IMO. Varly could be great, if he could stay healthy. Holtby seems to have some intangibles. He could really frustrate an opponent in the way Lundquist or Bryzgolov does. If he keeps playing like this I say let Varly go to the KHL.

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what a great problem to have. I hope GMGM was right when he was comparing our goalie situatuion to the hawks in the early 90s when they had belfour and hasek. I didnt vote yet bc i dont see the point in picking which is the "one" yet. At this stage of their development its way to early to label any of them the future franchise goalie. Just let Irbe keep doing a great job coaching up the kids

Trade one of them "Irbe says NO!!"

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That's part of the trapping of youth though. He'll learn when he can let that out and spark his team and when to ignore it and work the officials. I really don't think we can go wrong with keeping any combo of the 3. I just think Holtby will be the best of the 3.
yeah, that's the point. the raw emotion gets tempered, the competitiveness drives him to excel. hell, he's calmed down just this season. but i like emotion. i can think of some pretty decent goalies with quite a few cup rings who played with emotion.

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an average nhl goalie? he's already better than that. if his nhl post season record is anything like his current post season record before the nhl, he will be thought of otherwise.

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Neuvy has the composure, skill and talent to be our next franchise goaltender.

Holtby has this Hextall-ish quality to him that I think will make him an excellent high GP back up.

I love Varly, and I will truly be sad when I see him go, but at this point next season he no longer fits in the puzzle anymore. He's just hurt too often, and for too long and is too slow knocking the rust off.

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03-27-2011, 10:11 AM
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Need a larger sampling size from Holtby but he does have the "it" factor which other posters mentioned.

Varly is becomming labled as injury prone.

Neuvy is solid and could well be the guy but doesn't have as much of the "wow" the other 2 seem to have.

Too early to say but if forced to bet on it I'd choose Holtby.

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I'm still sticking with Varly. I think the kid has HOF talent and has "it" as much as Holtby does. Lest we forget, Varly allowed 2 goals in the first 4 playoff games of his career (after only having 6 career reg. season games), with 2 shutouts. Isn't he the youngest ever to record a playoff shutout at MSG? When you break a goal tending record set by Patrick Roy, you're doing something right

Call it blind faith that he'll overcome his injury woes.

On a related note, can anyone think of a successful NHL goalie that had nagging injury concerns for his first few years in the league?

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03-27-2011, 10:32 AM
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Neuvirth/Holtby can't commit yet, Neuvirth is my favorite goalie but Holtby plays the puck and has some fire in him, making him the more exciting goalie plus he's almost just as good.

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heh. per twitters, holtby's been sent back down.

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I'll stick with Varlamov for now. I still think he has the highest upside, and he hasn't had the kind of injuries that end a career.

I had a weird thought this morning. When I opened this thread and started reading, I thought to myself "I wonder how these guys would do on a poor defensive team?" In other words, the Caps' D is so vastly improved that the goalies could arguably suffer from the classic Brodeur criticism of playing behind a great defense.

The same could be said for their time with the Bears.

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Corey Hirsch
Sebastien Charpentier
Matthew Yeats
Maxime Ouellet
Rastislav Stana


it takes me a few years to get totally onboard with any young goaltender these days.

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Corey Hirsch
Sebastien Charpentier
Matthew Yeats
Maxime Ouellet
Rastislav Stana


it takes me a few years to get totally onboard with any young goaltender these days.
Yeah Ouellet was the biggest let down for me....had high hopes for Stana too.

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Corey Hirsch
Sebastien Charpentier
Matthew Yeats
Maxime Ouellet
Rastislav Stana


it takes me a few years to get totally onboard with any young goaltender these days.
I'd love to have a few of these' stats over 20+ games.

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